No ai tweaker in asus uefi bios

[Karolotopia]

So im thinking of upgrading my cpu from the intel core i3 3220 3.3GHz to the Intel core i7 2600k just for the overclocking capability and also becuase its the best chip for my motherboard (LGA 1155) and I was looking around the bios and noticed there is no ai tweaker. Does anybody know how to fix this???

 

[J_E_D_70]

What mobo, specifically? It may not show up since your current cpu is locked.

 

[alexoiu]

What motherboard and is the pc an ASUS prebuilt one, or you assembled it?

 

[Karolotopia]

MY motherboard is the PH861-M-PRO and yes it prebuilt from the cm6330_cm6630_cm6730_cm6830_m11aa-8

 

[alexoiu]

Then you'll have to replace the BIOS chip for OC-ing. You can find one on ebay.

 

[Karolotopia]

Then you'll have to replace the BIOS chip for OC-ing. You can find one on ebay.

how much is one of those?

 

[alexoiu]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-CHIP-ASUS-P7P55D-E-PREMIUM-P8H61-M-PRO-P8H61-P8H67-M-LE-P8H61-M-M4A78/170963908815?hash=item27ce3e38cf:g:WScAAOSw-kdXy1GG

 

[Karolotopia]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BIOS-CHIP-ASUS-P7P55D-E-PREMIUM-P8H61-M-PRO-P8H61-P8H67-M-LE-P8H61-M-M4A78/170963908815?hash=item27ce3e38cf:g:WScAAOSw-kdXy1GG

if i buy this chip and put it into my motherboard i should have the ai tweaker?
and what exactly does this chip even do

 

[alexoiu]

As the name does indicate it, it's the chip that stores the BIOS instructions.

 

[Karolotopia]

As the name does indicate it, it's the chip that stores the BIOS instructions.

does updating my bios not do the the same job as this chip because it says latest bios on the thumbnail of the ebay listing and i have the most recent bios driver

 

[alexoiu]

You have the latest BIOS for the prebuilt pc, which is different than the one for the exact same motherboard. Warranty reasons for ASUS to customize the BIOS in prebuilt PCs, so that users can not overclock.

 

[Barty1884]

Replacing the BIOS chip for that motherboard will not miraculously enable overclocking.
H61's are locked chipsets and, outside of potential tweaks to the BCLK, overclocking is not a possibility.

Replacing the BIOS chip can only provide you with a newer BIOS, compatible with the board (as can a 'standard' BIOS update)
OR
Enabling a rollback to an older revision of the BIOS, if downgrading is not a possibility.

Neither will achieve what you want to do.

Locked (non-K) Sandy and Ivy chips could be overclocked by 400MHz, but still required a motherboard capable of supporting.

 

[Karolotopia]

You have the latest BIOS for the prebuilt pc, which is different than the one for the exact same motherboard. Warranty reasons for ASUS to customize the BIOS in prebuilt PCs, so that users can not overclock.

so buying this new chip lets me update my bios past the prebuilt limit and let me overclock?

 

[Karolotopia]

Replacing the BIOS chip for that motherboard will not miraculously enable overclocking.
H61's are locked chipsets and, outside of potential tweaks to the BCLK, overclocking is not a possibility.

Replacing the BIOS chip can only provide you with a newer BIOS, compatible with the board (as can a 'standard' BIOS update)
OR
Enabling a rollback to an older revision of the BIOS, if downgrading is not a possibility.

Neither will achieve what you want to do.

Locked (non-K) Sandy and Ivy chips could be overclocked by 400MHz, but still required a motherboard capable of supporting.

damn so u recommend for me to get a whole new board?

 

[alexoiu]

Replacing the BIOS chip for that motherboard will not miraculously enable overclocking.
H61's are locked chipsets and, outside of potential tweaks to the BCLK, overclocking is not a possibility.

Replacing the BIOS chip can only provide you with a newer BIOS, compatible with the board (as can a 'standard' BIOS update)
OR
Enabling a rollback to an older revision of the BIOS, if downgrading is not a possibility.

Neither will achieve what you want to do.

Locked (non-K) Sandy and Ivy chips could be overclocked by 400MHz, but still required a motherboard capable of supporting.

There are some options for this board too in the Tweaker menu:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8H61-M_PRO/e6328_P8H61-M_PRO_manual.zip?_ga=2.200833582.1219406455.1522682952-1902852689.1522682952

 

[Barty1884]

damn so u recommend for me to get a whole new board?

Not necessarily. What are you trying to achieve here? The i3 to i7 upgrade is still going to give you an additional 2cores/4threads AND a +600MHz gain through boost clocks. Depending on your workload, that can potentially be a significant upgrade in itself, before even considering overclocking.

Now, if you just want to OC for fun etc.... then yes, a new motherboard would be required.
I wouldn't look to spend a whole lot on a suitable motherboard though - they still go for some decent month!

There are some options for this board too in the Tweaker menu:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8H61-M_PRO/e6328_P8H61-M_PRO_manual.zip?_ga=2.200833582.1219406455.1522682952-1902852689.1522682952

There will be - it's just not "full" overclocking support.
I also believe you need an unlocked CPU for (some) of the options to show. It *should* only show the applicable options for the CPU installed.

 

[Karolotopia]

damn so u recommend for me to get a whole new board?

Not necessarily. What are you trying to achieve here? The i3 to i7 upgrade is still going to give you an additional 2cores/4threads AND a +600MHz gain through boost clocks. Depending on your workload, that can potentially be a significant upgrade in itself, before even considering overclocking.

Now, if you just want to OC for fun etc.... then yes, a new motherboard would be required.
I wouldn't look to spend a whole lot on a suitable motherboard though - they still go for some decent month!

basically i want to get the 2600k and that chip is clocked at around 3.4ghz stock but can be overclocked to around 4.5 ghz i seen with the right cooling (CoolerMaster 212 Evo) which is the cpu cooler which i have on my pc right now

 

[Barty1884]

4.5 is simple enough to obtain on that chip..... but needs a suitable motherboard. Not happening on that one, I'm afraid.

There are some tweaks available on the board, like increasing the BCLK.... but that's not really advisable.
The relatively 'safe' steps would only get you to around 3.9GHz. Anything beyond 103 is likely to cause instability/crashes.

 

[Karolotopia]

4.5 is simple enough to obtain on that chip..... but needs a suitable motherboard. Not happening on that one, I'm afraid.

There are some tweaks available on the board, like increasing the BCLK.... but that's not really advisable.
The relatively 'safe' steps would only get you to around 3.9GHz. Anything beyond 103 is likely to cause instability/crashes.

my birthday is coming up relatively soon so ill get some cash from that probably enough for the cpu itself and maybe even more so im thinking should i buy the cpu and a motherboard that can support overclocking past 4ghz?

 

[Barty1884]

From what I can find (eBay), the i7-2600K still sells for ~$100 or a little more. A compatible motherboard in the Z68 chipset (etc) thats working, runs anywhere from $80 to $175 or more.

For that kind of money, I would personally advise against it. 7 year old CPU (no matter how good it was/is) and a comparable aged motherboard..... just a waste of money to me. IF you had a 2600K and Z68 (etc) motherboard, I'd continue using it, it's still good for what it is..... but I wouldn't be investing any decent amount of money into the platform in 2018.

Realistically, for not a whole lot more money (vs. middle ground of eBay sold prices anyway), you could have a modern platform that'll scratch your overclocking 'itch' some...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($175.77 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $331.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-02 12:01 EDT-0400

I'd full expect to be comfortably >$200 for an i7-2600K and any decent board..... So while it's still a decent bit more money, it would be money well spent IMO.

 

[Karolotopia]

From what I can find (eBay), the i7-2600K still sells for ~$100 or a little more. A compatible motherboard in the Z68 chipset (etc) thats working, runs anywhere from $80 to $175 or more.

For that kind of money, I would personally advise against it. 7 year old CPU (no matter how good it was/is) and a comparable aged motherboard..... just a waste of money to me. IF you had a 2600K and Z68 (etc) motherboard, I'd continue using it, it's still good for what it is..... but I wouldn't be investing any decent amount of money into the platform in 2018.

Realistically, for not a whole lot more money (vs. middle ground of eBay sold prices anyway), you could have a modern platform that'll scratch your overclocking 'itch' some...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($175.77 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $331.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-02 12:01 EDT-0400

I'd full expect to be comfortably >$200 for an i7-2600K and any decent board..... So while it's still a decent bit more money, it would be money well spent IMO.

I already have 8gb ram 1333mhz so i dont really need more ram. And I have A msi GTX 950 msi graphic card so do u think that the ryzen 5 and the gtx 950 be able to run most games in 1080p around medium settings? also my case is the BitFenix bfx-ntg-100-kkwsk-rp and im not sure if this case be able to hold the motherboard because the MSI-B350 TOMAHAWK AEX AM4 Motherboard is full ATX

 

[Barty1884]

If you have an i3-3220, you have DDR3.. . A Ryzen platform uses DDR4 and they're not interchangeable.

A Ryzen5* 1600 can pair very well with much stronger GPUs than a 950, so would give you a solid foundation going forward.
For now, it should do a decent job of 1080p/medium most of the time.

That case part list shows as the Nova TG? Which does support ATX alongside mATX and mITX.

There are similarly priced mATX boards though... although you typically sacrifice a couple of DIMM slots, at least on a budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($175.77 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $331.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-02 12:12 EDT-0400


Note, depending on what your birthday is specifically, Ryzen2 should be launched/available soon (April 11th I believe I heard), so by the time you purchase, there may be better options...

 

[Karolotopia]

If you have an i3-3220, you have DDR3.. . A Ryzen platform uses DDR4 and they're not interchangeable.

A Ryzen5* 1600 can pair very well with much stronger GPUs than a 950, so would give you a solid foundation going forward.
For now, it should do a decent job of 1080p/medium most of the time.

how much money do you think id make by selling the RAM and the Cpu?

 

[Barty1884]

Really depends on the route you go with it.
eBay, you're looking anywhere from probably $50 to $120.... less 10-15% fees after eBay and PayPal fees. so $40-$100 range.

Locally, depends on your area/demand. I'd suggest you 'expect' around $75.

 

[Karolotopia]

Really depends on the route you go with it.
eBay, you're looking anywhere from probably $50 to $120.... less 10-15% fees after eBay and PayPal fees. so $40-$100 range.

Locally, depends on your area/demand. I'd suggest you 'expect' around $75.

anyways thanks man for all the help see ya next time ))