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I upgraded my Nvidia GTX 750 to a brand new RX 6700 XFX for my motherboard, i7 3880u 3rd gen 16gb ddr3 ram and 520 watts and before I was 2gb.

My psu has just 1 x 8-pin PCIe, but my new card requires 2 x 8-pin PCIe so I bought a sata power connector but it seems after turning on my pc I have no signal. So I am wondering either my motherboard is not compatible with my new gpu or my psu has killed my new gpu ?

But before I installed the new GPU on my i7 3rd gen motherboard , it was tested on an i5 8th Gen and was used to run FC 24 at ultra settings so I don't know if it is not compatible with my i7 3rd gen ?
 
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Rehand said:
rx 6700xfx
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i don't believe this RX 6700XFX exists.
do you mean the XFX RX 6700 XT?
Rehand said:
and 520 watts
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this doesn't tell much.
include the make & model plus the overall time that is has been in use.

the average RX 6700 XT requires a 650w minimum.
so even if your unit was a higher tiered model, it still wouldn't meet the requirements.
Rehand said:
I bought a sata power connector
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many times adapters such as these just do not work as the user intends.
whether it be faulty manufacturing, false labeling/info, or just some sort of user error it can be hard to tell.

include a link to the exact item purchased.
 
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JohnBonhamsGhost said:
i don't believe this RX 6700XFX exists.
do you mean the XFX RX 6700 XT?

this doesn't tell much.
include the make & model plus the overall time that is has been in use.

the average RX 6700 XT requires a 650w minimum.
so even if your unit was a higher tiered model, it still wouldn't meet the requirements.

many times adapters such as these just do not work as the user intends.
whether it be faulty manufacturing, false labeling/info, or just some sort of user error it can be hard to tell.

include a link to the exact item purchased.
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The card was tested before purchasing it so I knew it was working
 
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Hello @Rehand,

I hope you're okay. I am @Vikko151 and I would be glad to help you (if it's not a problem of course 😑).

So, yea... It seems like it's not the place to pack a that strong GPU. I believe the offer isn't a problem, figuring out it's one of the GPU with the best cost per frame and with excellent performance. The thing is, you are trying to fit a "beast" into a 11 years old computer. The best thing you could do would be to buy or build something that could hold that. Here are the problems in your platform:

  1. The PSU: Your PSU is clearly the big problem in question. It doesn't answer to the minimum requirements, but the worst is the fact the margin is big. -140W in your overall GPU wattage is way enough to make it unfunctionnal, considering the GPU's priority in power supplying is relatively low. You can run a system without a dedicated GPU, but not without a CPU, some sticks of RAM or a motherboard (and how could it even work without? 🤨), your hardware can't go further than doing a BIOS Flashback. This can be proven if you put back your GTX 750, enable the iGPU in your settings, remove the GTX 750 and reinstall your RX 6700 XT and plugging your display cable on your motherboard's display ports. Actually, something that helps me for finding a problem, mostly because my knowledges are orientated near biology, is to compare the components to our body. Considering the PSU is the heart, the motherboard the brain, the GPU the eyes, etc... Let's take an example. If you starve for too long, your body is going to lack of energy, and it's going to "disable" things that are unessential. This is the case in this scenario. Lack of energy = Stops unessential things that consume energy = Stopping the dedicated GPU since it's "unessential". Of course, the solution would be to get a better PSU, but it's still reasonable to think about if a new platform would be a better option.
  2. The CPU -> Bottlenecks GPU: ...And it means it requires a whole upgrade of your platform sadly. Any 3rd generation CPU will definitively bottleneck the RX 6700 XT. Changing the CPU would probably require a whole change of your components, except the GPU, which can function on any PCIe port.
  3. The motherboard: Here, it's not about the CPU, but about the PCIe port(s). Your motherboard most unlikely doesn't support PCIe 4.0, which is the PCIe technology used by your RX 6700 XT. One good new is the fact it's retrocompatible, and I even doubt the RX 6700 XT speed outperforms the max. speed of PCIe 3.0.
That's all the factors that influence your Radeon GPU. You could simply replace the PSU, but for a that old build... Why would you even? Putting old into new or vice-versa isn't always a good idea, and your best option would be to make a cheap, but new build, and sell your old one with your GTX 750 so you don't ruin your budget. Tom's Hardware yearly suggests cheap or expensive builds on their blog. Here is the most recent one: https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-pc-builds-gaming. Indeed, it's based on other GPUs, but at least you'll get an idea. Here would be a cheap, but not bad at all, build I suggest you to make your RX 6700 XT packing a punch for 500$!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WM7vFs

I hope it helps. Oh, and remember! Your PSU is the heart of your computer. If it's not sufficent, some things could potentially not work. Have a nice day.

@Vikko151
 
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So can you give me a breif of motherboard and hardware component that will handle this gpu
Vikko151 said:
Hello @Rehand,

I hope you're okay. I am @Vikko151 and I would be glad to help you (if it's not a problem of course 😑).

So, yea... It seems like it's not the place to pack a that strong GPU. I believe the offer isn't a problem, figuring out it's one of the GPU with the best cost per frame and with excellent performance. The thing is, you are trying to fit a "beast" into a 11 years old computer. The best thing you could do would be to buy or build something that could hold that. Here are the problems in your platform:

  1. The PSU: Your PSU is clearly the big problem in question. It doesn't answer to the minimum requirements, but the worst is the fact the margin is big. -140W in your overall GPU wattage is way enough to make it unfunctionnal, considering the GPU's priority in power supplying is relatively low. You can run a system without a dedicated GPU, but not without a CPU, some sticks of RAM or a motherboard (and how could it even work without? 🤨), your hardware can't go further than doing a BIOS Flashback. This can be proven if you put back your GTX 750, enable the iGPU in your settings, remove the GTX 750 and reinstall your RX 6700 XT and plugging your display cable on your motherboard's display ports. Actually, something that helps me for finding a problem, mostly because my knowledges are orientated near biology, is to compare the components to our body. Considering the PSU is the heart, the motherboard the brain, the GPU the eyes, etc... Let's take an example. If you starve for too long, your body is going to lack of energy, and it's going to "disable" things that are unessential. This is the case in this scenario. Lack of energy = Stops unessential things that consume energy = Stopping the dedicated GPU since it's "unessential". Of course, the solution would be to get a better PSU, but it's still reasonable to think about if a new platform would be a better option.
  2. The CPU -> Bottlenecks GPU: ...And it means it requires a whole upgrade of your platform sadly. Any 3rd generation CPU will definitively bottleneck the RX 6700 XT. Changing the CPU would probably require a whole change of your components, except the GPU, which can function on any PCIe port.
  3. The motherboard: Here, it's not about the CPU, but about the PCIe port(s). Your motherboard most unlikely doesn't support PCIe 4.0, which is the PCIe technology used by your RX 6700 XT. One good new is the fact it's retrocompatible, and I even doubt the RX 6700 XT speed outperforms the max. speed of PCIe 3.0.
That's all the factors that influence your Radeon GPU. You could simply replace the PSU, but for a that old build... Why would you even? Putting old into new or vice-versa isn't always a good idea, and your best option would be to make a cheap, but new build, and sell your old one with your GTX 750 so you don't ruin your budget. Tom's Hardware yearly suggests cheap or expensive builds on their blog. Here is the most recent one: https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-pc-builds-gaming. Indeed, it's based on other GPUs, but at least you'll get an idea. Here would be a cheap, but not bad at all, build I suggest you to make your RX 6700 XT packing a punch for 500$!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WM7vFs

I hope it helps. Oh, and remember! Your PSU is the heart of your computer. If it's not sufficent, some things could potentially not work. Have a nice day.

@Vikko151
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Hello again @Rehand,

You've mabye not seen the PCPartPicker link. Don't worry, it's okay. Click here to see my advised build.

If anything's wrong with the build (Ignore about the BIOS version, the motherboard got BIOS Flashback, allowing you to update your BIOS without a CPU nor RAM), please tell me.

Rehand said:
Please note the card wasn't tested on my i7 3rd gen but rather on an i5 8th gen and it was working
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OK. But I would be interested to know where you tested the GPU and the PSU of the computer with a 8th generation i5 in question. The CPU doesn't affect at all the GPU, since a GPU has only got considerable links with the CPU in-game. At least, it's already a step forward since we are 100% sure the GPU isn't the problem. 👍

I hope we'll find a solution soon. Have a nice day.

@Vikko151
 
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For a new platform to make full use of that card, I would do something like this.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.99 @ B&H)
Total: $481.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-21 12:54 EDT-0400
 
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Hello everyone,

logainofhades said:
CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.99 @ B&H)
Total: $481.85
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Wow. That would be a nice option if you plan on keeping your case, and I'm really surprised on how cheap are TEAMGROUP RAM sticks and the i5-12600K. In my country, all of that is much more expensive, and AMD Ryzen CPUs are cheaper than Intel CPUs. But something the original poster didn't mentionned is if the original poster is an overclocker or not. Whatever, overclocker or not, K CPUs still grant a boost, and the Z690 is also cheaper than the weaker ASUS TUF GAMING B550M PLUS. Honestly, if you got the money for it, go with that. Something I would change personally would be the i5-12600K's iGPU. The original poster could just go with a $20 cheaper i5-12600KF if integrated graphics isn't important, like if $20 is fairly nothing. While, if @Rehand's GPU gets a problem, well, there will be no display...

Another thing I could add would be in term of the case. I guess you could try selling your build at $120-$130 with the case. Although the Antec NX100 case looks cheap, it still does the matter (Well, it's still a "budget case"). If you don't want to take risks, you could get the "be quiet! Pure Base 500". It's exactly the case I got for my computer, and it's quality-price ratio is excellent. Expect a $48 raise. So, ultimately, here would be my suggestion, based on @logainofhades' suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.99 @ B&H)

Total: $541.75 - $130 (Sold build) = $411.75 (Shipping and discounts included on the 21/03/24)

I don't forget to give my warmest thanks to @logainofhades for it's build suggestion. If you had to thank someone in all of this, it would be him. And, don't forget to react if there's anything wrong. I wish you a good day/night, and see you.

@Vikko151
 
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Rehand said:
Please note the card wasn't tested on my i7 3rd gen but rather on an i5 8th gen and it was working
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Hopefully you still have access to that other computer and test it's psu on yours. Only way to know for sure before buying. 3rd gen with uefi motherboard has no issues running modern cards, i used to run a 1080Ti on 2nd gen Intel. Oem boards can be an issue with limited bios though (hit and miss) but the more common mainboard manufacturers, Asus, Asrock, Msi, Gigabyte etc hasn't really been an issue running uefi cards since LGA775. That's if gpu has support for legacy which Nvidia 10 series still had. Amd dropped legacy support since 5xx RX series. Depending on your board, Asus p8p67 i was using had uefi support, if yours also has uefi support then it shouldn't be a problem running a uefi only card which 6700 undoubtedly is.
 
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logainofhades said:
I typically do not recommend an F sku Intel chip. The IGP is nice to have for troubleshooting, and if your GPU dies, the system is still useable. I have to remind myself that not everyone has a spare GPU lying around, like I do.
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Hello again @logainofhades,

You are right on the fact that if your GPU dies, your computer is at least useable. Thankfully, if my computer's GPU dies, I can still use my laptop, which is still OK for what I do. But if the original poster has got only one computer, having a iGPU is definitively an obligation, not even an option. Plus, who says iGPU says more expensive, so you shouldn't get a iGPU for having a iGPU.

So, @Rehand, since you are the concerned person on your PSU problem, we need your answer on those question:
  • Have you got anything about computers lying around? For example, a GPU, another PC, etc...
  • Could you estimate your budget, or at least tell us if it's tight or large?
  • If you sold your current computer, imagine your RX 6700 XT dies. Except your phone, have you got any other computer or other GPU for troubleshooting purposes?
It would be nice to let us know your answers to those questions, so we can find a good and reliable build to use your RX 6700 XT. And thanks again @logainofhades for your help. Without you, we wouldn't get that far. Have a nice day/night.

@Vikko151
 
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logainofhades said:
For a new platform to make full use of that card, I would do something like this.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Extreme ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($90.99 @ B&H)
Total: $481.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-21 12:54 EDT-0400
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OP, this is a great match up for your card. It'd push even more powerful cards than the one you currently have.

But the one you currently have is good enough, especially with a system like this around it.
 
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Vikko151 said:
Hello again @logainofhades,

You are right on the fact that if your GPU dies, your computer is at least useable. Thankfully, if my computer's GPU dies, I can still use my laptop, which is still OK for what I do. But if the original poster has got only one computer, having a iGPU is definitively an obligation, not even an option. Plus, who says iGPU says more expensive, so you shouldn't get a iGPU for having a iGPU.

So, @Rehand, since you are the concerned person on your PSU problem, we need your answer on those question:
  • Have you got anything about computers lying around? For example, a GPU, another PC, etc...
  • Could you estimate your budget, or at least tell us if it's tight or large?
  • If you sold your current computer, imagine your RX 6700 XT dies. Except your phone, have you got any other computer or other GPU for troubleshooting purposes?
It would be nice to let us know your answers to those questions, so we can find a good and reliable build to use your RX 6700 XT. And thanks again @logainofhades for your help. Without you, we wouldn't get that far. Have a nice day/night.

@Vikko151
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A laptop
 
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Rehand said:
A laptop
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Hello @Rehand,

Thank you very much for your answer. The fact you got a laptop is quite pretty OK in term of iGPU, and whatever if you got a iGPU or not, you wouldn't be able to play video games as you would do with your RX 6700 XT. Another thing is to ask you if the money system of the PC Part Picker list is the good one, since it's a very important factor. Indeed, not only each money unity has it's value, but if you are in Netherland, your components' price rises of 60€, almost the price of a quality PC Cooler for the best, or can even be out of stock/unavalaible.

According to me, if your laptop doesn't bottleneck you on your daily activites, gaming excepted because you'll potentially can't play games with a iGPU comfortably, you could spare you the iGPU. Like I said before:
Vikko151 said:
[Who] says iGPU says more expensive, so you shouldn't get a iGPU for having a iGPU.
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But like @logainofhades said, it's really something you might think about, and not instictively do. As long as your laptop doesn't cause you much problem in term of finding back a new GPU and that you can deal with, taking the KF edition should be OK.

I hope this answer helps you. If there's any issue, please let me know about. Have a nice day.

@Vikko151
 
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John Chesterfield said:
OP, this is a great match up for your card. It'd push even more powerful cards than the one you currently have.

But the one you currently have is good enough, especially with a system like this around it.
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Hi @John Chesterfield,

Yea, that exactly my reaction when I saw this build... but there's just a little problem:

John Chesterfield said:
But the one you currently have is good enough, especially with a system like this around it.
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I don't think so. I am typically this person that always used old gaming computers, and even a 4th generation i7 struggled (and I really say struggled) to hold a RTX 2060. Considering the RX 6700 XT is 30% stronger than a RTX 2060 (Valuable upgrade) and that the strongest 3rd generation Intel CPU underperforms the strongest 4th generation Intel CPU according UserBenchmark, I don't think it would be a good plan. I also have to add there's no LGA 1155 motherboard that support PCIe 4.0, the RX 6700 XT PCIe technology (...but it possibly doesn't outperform PCIe 3.0's speed, but let's don't take risks). In conclusion, it'll be more reasonable to go on something newer, since the 3rd generation of Intel CPUs is in exactly 1 month 12 years old, which is old.

You litteraly have to push the resolution very high if you want to get rid of the bottleneck between a i7-3770K, for example, and a RX 6700 XT, and I think selling the original poster's current build with it's GTX 750 is better than recycling everything. It can always make the joy of someone, and @Rehand can by this way aim for a brand new case and components, and on the other hand economize some money.

I hope this answer helped you. Feel free to react to that answer if there's something wrong.

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Vikko151 said:
Hi @John Chesterfield,

Yea, that exactly my reaction when I saw this build... but there's just a little problem:



I don't think so. I am typically this person that always used old gaming computers, and even a 4th generation i7 struggled (and I really say struggled) to hold a RTX 2060. Considering the RX 6700 XT is 30% stronger than a RTX 2060 (Valuable upgrade) and that the strongest 3rd generation Intel CPU underperforms the strongest 4th generation Intel CPU according UserBenchmark, I don't think it would be a good plan. I also have to add there's no LGA 1155 motherboard that support PCIe 4.0, the RX 6700 XT PCIe technology (...but it possibly doesn't outperform PCIe 3.0's speed, but let's don't take risks). In conclusion, it'll be more reasonable to go on something newer, since the 3rd generation of Intel CPUs is in exactly 1 month 12 years old, which is old.

You litteraly have to push the resolution very high if you want to get rid of the bottleneck between a i7-3770K, for example, and a RX 6700 XT, and I think selling the original poster's current build with it's GTX 750 is better than recycling everything. It can always make the joy of someone, and @Rehand can by this way aim for a brand new case and components, and on the other hand economize some money.

I hope this answer helped you. Feel free to react to that answer if there's something wrong.

@Vikko151
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Ok nice for the advice so what I am wondering is if the psu have killed my new gpu
 
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