I have questions, currently I have noctua DH-15 CH-Black, it can cool well i7 10700k or i9 10900k stock at default setting ? and temperature it can reach when gaming ?
I expect that it should do quite well.I have questions, currently I have noctua DH-15 CH-Black, it can cool well i7 10700k or i9 10900k stock at default setting ? and temperature it can reach when gaming ?
http://www.deepcool.com/product/case/2018-11/9_9973.shtml I use this case, this case simple good enough with i7 9700k stock I have 4 fan case 140mm 1 back, 1 top, 2 frontWhat is the make/model of your case?
How well a NH-D15 does will, in some part depend on how well your case is able to supply fresh air to the cooler to let it do it's job. With two 120/140mm front intakes, you should be OK with either processor.
No telling what the max temperature will be.
At 100c. the processor will slow down or shut off to protect itself from damage.
I would expect much less.
I might add that for gaming, a i5-10600K will do very well. There really is little need for more than the i7-10700K.
Responding to the thread title:
10700K: at stock, yes. Overclocked - in case you change your mind regarding it - no.
10900K: no, and no. This one demands liquid cooling - 280mm or greater.
Yes. That thing is just too much...What if you get an 10900K and not overclock? Do you still recommend a liquid cooling solution at that point?
to answer your question:
10700K: at stock, yes. Overclocked - in case you change your mind regarding it - no.
10900K: no, and no. This one demands liquid cooling - 280mm or greater.
Other than price - if you still grab a Z series mobo - not really.Is there anything wrong in terms of getting the non-K model for gaming and video editing?
I think that's due to:Also, coming back to the Core-i9-10900K, why do some owners claim that the CPU is doing just fine at stock without a liquid cooling solution?
That's because of the 'conservative' power limits Intel has implemented this time around.
At the same time, the user isn't getting the full force of the cpu unless they remove the power limit... after which, things quickly get out of hand.
The Blender workload run through the video:
The 10900K was running some 60-65C, but when they slide over to the frequencies, it was sitting at an all core, 4.0ghz throughout most of the run!
Power consumption was at 125w throughout most of it as well.
In the few gaming benchmarks that were posted, you see just how restrictive that power limit is on that cpu:
The 10600K was providing similar performance! In the benchmarks where the 10600K falls behind, that was due to the 10900K's 8 extra threads.
Other than price - if you still grab a Z series mobo - not really.
I think that's due to:
1)They aren't aware how restrictive those power limits are on this cpu's performance, as I mentioned above. They're not getting that sweet 5.0ghz+ all the time.
It'll come in bursts if there's room to do it. To keep that frequency, they'll have to remove the power limits...
2)They went overkill on what they really needed, i.e., they basically bought a Porsche, but only play on the CSGO or LoL Thruway, or something like that.
This is something that's been going on all the time. It's the usual crap from the mobo vendors trying to one up each other by making their boards look better by sneakily squeezing out more performance.I found Gamer's Nexus finding also puzzling,
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/...erboards-with-default-settings-for-your-build
This is something that's been going on all the time. It's the usual crap from the mobo vendors trying to one up each other by making their boards look better by sneakily squeezing out more performance.
Not only do these 'tweaks' go against Intel and AMD's guidelines for stock operation, they can screw over the end users. Examples:
Cpu boost behavior or base frequency tweaked:
"Why is my cpu running warmer out of the box in this motherboard VS another, even though they're the same chipset?"
No 2 pieces of silicon are the same. Some cpus do not react too well with the changes made:
"This motherboard was such a headache! It kept crashing on me in Blender workloads. I tried EVERYTHING to fix it, and nothing! I went and got a different motherboard, and problem solved! I'm never going back to that company!"
All the vendors are guilty of it at some point or another, though lately, Asus appears to be following the guidelines the closest...
They really like to use doublers for some reason - doesn't mean they're not efficient though.I heard the ASUS VRM's weren't as robust as Gigabyte's and MSI's offering.
Not really. You're informed about some of the motherboard shenanigans now - there are ways around them, but it requires a more manual approach...To make matters safe, do you think I would have been better off with using the ASUS board for the 10700 (non-K) model?
They really like to use doublers for some reason - doesn't mean they're not efficient though.
VRM design that's 'sufficient' VS the 'over-engineered' one.
Not really. You're informed about some of the motherboard shenanigans now - there are ways around them, but it requires a more manual approach...
Then again, that's not why most people purchase motherboards; they want the to work properly out of the box.
If there's one thing Asus has going for them, it's that they have the most user-friendly bios on their motherboards. Everything else though(IMO),
Msi is ok. I really like their dragon motif!Thanks, what are your thoughts on MSI and ASRock?
Msi is ok. I really like their dragon motif!
Asrock hasn't been so great as of late. They were a nice alternative to Asus, considering the people who started the company had broken off from Asus.
No need to watch all the videos, as they all make Asrock look bad.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfg
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKiwDL3UrA
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iLS3poPn8o
I don't think Asrock even makes a cameo here...
Unrelated, but there's also the mess that is their X570 Taichi. The stock settings heavily violate the power reporting from the board, to the point that it makes the cpu perform better than most of the PBO profiles!
Gigabyte.
Just in case you don't know: a 280/360mm AIO in the front will require you to remove the optical drive bay.Deepcool E-shield
Yes I have already removed optical drive bay, currently I use Cooler Master Masterliquid ML360R RGB, but don't know is it good for i9 10900k stock speed or not, some people said not and recomend me use NZXT Kraken X72Just in case you don't know: a 280/360mm AIO in the front will require you to remove the optical drive bay.
A)NZXT Kraken X72
-equipped with 3x AER P120 fans: https://www.nzxt.com/products/aer-p#product-spec
-6 year warranty
-OEM is Asetek
-NZXT CAM software required to control the unit
B)Cooler Master Masterliquid ML360R RGB
-equipped with 3x Masterfan MF120R ARGB fans: https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/masterfan-mf120r-argb/#Specifications
-2 year warranty
-pump and radiator are in-house design
-control software not required, but the one they do have is still in a beta state - last time I heard about it, at least.
C)Asus Rog Strix LC 360 RGB
-equipped with 3x 'ROG Designed A-RGB radiator fans' - whatever that means: https://www.asus.com/Cooling/ROG-STRIX-LC-360-RGB/specifications/
-5 year warranty
-OEM is Asetek
-Armoury Crate software not required to control the unit
The above are the primary differences between them.
Performance-wise, there's no discernible difference, save for the fans.
Oookay...Yes I have already removed optical drive bay, currently I use Cooler Master Masterliquid ML360R RGB, but don't know is it good for i9 10900k stock speed or not, some people said not and recomend me use NZXT Kraken X72
I got it, what do you think if I put AIO at front, 2 fan case top, 1 fan case back ?Oookay...
Did those people give you a legit reason why to use the Kraken X72 over the ML360R?
A typical 360mm AIO is good for some 350w of waste heat. The 10900K has a power limit of 250w on PL 2... so there's plenty of headroom with that cooler.
I already pointed out the biggest differences between the 2 coolers... what are those people getting at?
Should be fine.I got it, what do you think if I put AIO at front, 2 fan case top, 1 fan case back ?