Noctua NH-D15 with Trident Z ram

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I was just wondering if G.Skill Trident Z ram would fit underneath the d15 in a Fractal Design Define R5 case? The fan would sit at 178mm of the 180 available from what I can tell. Would replacing the front fan with a 120mm solve the clearance problem? Thanks for the help in advance.
 
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nope, 64mm ram in single fan mode, only 32mm ram in dual fan mode, think tridentz are around 46mm or so
go noctua nh-d14 adn you can get ripjaws V (incase you didnt already buy either ram or cooler) otherwise you need lowprofile ram
would be a real shame to run that cooler in single fan mode
nope, 64mm ram in single fan mode, only 32mm ram in dual fan mode, think tridentz are around 46mm or so
go noctua nh-d14 adn you can get ripjaws V (incase you didnt already buy either ram or cooler) otherwise you need lowprofile ram
would be a real shame to run that cooler in single fan mode
 
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You can always adjust the Fan placement to allow more memory clearance as long as your case allows you to. Trident Z's height is listed @44mm. Adjusting the fan by 12mm to fit Trident Z will increase the height of D15 from 165mm to 177mm. Define R5 supports up to 180mm CPU cooler.
 


what would be the point of buying a NH-D15 just to swap out its 150mm to a 120mm? might aswell just buy a smaller cooler then, its the 2x 150mm fans that make that cooler so efficient

need to either move the fan to the left side of heatsink if mobo space allows or adjust the 150mm fan to allow the clearance (which ofc wouldnt be optimal), but would work, it would be tight, but work.
either that or consider a different cooler so you dont waste the Noctua by using a 120mm fan.. just buy a cooler with 120mm fans then..
 
In order to get at my top PCIE slot, I have my fans in pull mode
Would that help you? And can it fit.
I checked with Noctua and its fine I also get 29-34C on all 6 cores, even when stressed
That cooler is brilliant so do Persevere - when you can run all your fans at 300rpm you will thank me for a near silent case :)
 
120mm fan = 94CMH vs 140mm = 115CMH... This cooler works much better in a push format - and if your ram is too tall to accomplish a push format, you might as well move to a 120 on RAM side. Now regarding a smaller cooling unit - if you know of 1 that provides equal cooling to the D15 please tell me, because my second PC would love it since a D15 will not fit.
 


you cant bloody compare a a fan on a heatsink by CMH alone,
first off the NH-d15 sports a 150mm fan which is max 140,2 m³/h not 115
secondly it has a "mere" 1,51 mm H₂O vs the 120mm 1,68 mm H₂O, one might think the 120mm wins
BUT and here comes the important part specially regarding radiator/heatsink cooling
the 150mm does it over a much larger area, key factor,
the second you remove it and switch it for the 120mm fan you lose effectivity on the heatsink itself, sure you got a great quality heatsink, and alot better than some other standard heatsinks, but you remove a great part of the efficiency by placing a 120mm fan on it
and as such you simply can not compare a smaller 120mm cooling unit with the beastly NH.D15 exactly because its bigger, even if its a top quality 120mm cooler, it will be great sure, but ofc it wont be as great as the larger
and the point that makes the NH-D15 so great compared to regular 120mm units, IS because it uses 2x150mm fans
and should you remove those you effectively negate the point of buying the unit in teh first place and as such might aswell just settle for a smaller unit to begin with
same reason you simply cannot compare something like the corsair h80 with a NZXT Kraken x61... apples and oranges mate, just like you would lose effectiveness placing a 120mm fan on the Kraken vs its standard 140mm

your idea ofc works, but better to see if cant rearrange the 150mm fans, and if not possible, one might aswell just have considered a smaller cooler that would actually fit ones build and thus perform optimally,

an NH-D15 wont perform as specified or optimally when replaced with tiny 120mm fan, and thus might aswell settle for a regular 140mm/120mm top quality cooler anyway
(neither ofc would cool to the same degree as a NH-d15 but thats because they are smaller per definition,
just like a NH-d15 wont cool as an NH-D15 any longer when replaced with 120mm fans)

Thats why i use the NH-D14 because it would fit vs the NH-D15, and i wouldnt have to replace/or move any fans and thus no longer getting the NH-D15 cooling anyway, so not to waste the NH-D15.

smaller coolers that would cool superb:
Noctua NH-U14S uses 1 150mm fan (same big fan as NH-d15 but smaller heatsink)
Cryorig h5 universal uses 140mm fan
Cryorig h7 uses 120mm fan
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo uses 120mm fan
all would cool greatly, but ofc not as a NH-d15 or even NH-d14 because they are bigger
but one could double up on the fans and mount 2 instead of their standard 1, thus increase performance even further,
but you simply cannot compare 150mm vs 120mm (with respective heatsink sizes) in terms of cooling performance, because size does matters
and one must then either accept teh drawbacks size incurs or accept lesser cooling performance
(and then why spend top dollar on cooling when you modify it and it would no longer perform to those top dollar cost? just buy a cheaper smaller unit)
 
So just to see what actually happens - later tonight I will run prime 95 for 1 hour with the 2 140mm fans that the D15 comes with. And I will run a thermal margin log. I will then do the exact same test using 1 140mm and 1 120mm Noctua fan. I will do the exact same test again - 1 hour of prime 95 and thermal margin log. I will try to post the results later tonight or tomorrow. Also, I dont know where you are getting the 150mm fan. According to Noctua they are 140mm fans. I have heard that some think they are 150mm due to the number of fan blades, but Noctua clearly labels them as 140mm fans.

stay tuned.
 
http://noctua.at/en/nh-d15/specification note fan http://noctua.at/en/products/fan/nf-a15-pwm/specification 140x150mm so can justify calling it a 150mm fan, tho why and how they did this doesnt matter, and doesnt matter what we designate it, point is Noctua widened this particular fan to 150mm with cpu heatsink in mind for increased performance.
remember to set the fan curve to static so it doesnt just automatically increase teh RPM more on teh 120mm NF-P12, to maintain equal cooling of teh NF-A15
 
Note part of the point of having 150mm fans is to allow a slight overlap pulling or pushing air over those pipes before they even reach the finned section.
Personally I think its not clever to down grade the fans, why not do what Noctua support told me to do - swing it around 90 degrees
Noctua told me that was far better than removing or using a smaller fan.
 
Hey Everyone,

So I am having 1 busy weekend, but I did get the first test done. I will be doing 3 tests total ... 1 Test with 2x140mm .... 1 Test with 1x120mm + 1x140mm .... 1 Test with 1x120mm ( over ram ) + 1x140mm + 1x140mm ( at the rear of the case. ).

Test #1: 2x140mm

http://i.imgur.com/PP07u64.jpg?1

Average Thermal Margin 33.25 - I only ran this test at roughly 30 minutes. The thermal margins did not change even 1C from 1 minute to 30 minutes - and I want to play video games damnit! lol. So I believe 30 minutes will be more than sufficient.

More Tests to come later today.
 
Test #2:

1x120mm and 1x140mm - both are in push format. the 120mm is the first fan, the 140mm is the fan placed in the middle section of the 2 heat sinks.

http://i.imgur.com/wTnU68U.jpg?1

We see a 2C drop in performance between Test 1 and Test 2. This drop was to be expected as you are moving to a smaller fan that does not cover the entire heat sink.

The one thing I cannot explain is the large variation in fan speed? when running 2x140mm fans the fan speed is at an average of 1200 and 1050 .... when running the 1x120mm + 1x140mm the fan speed is 950 and 1050. No idea why the smaller fan's RPM's are so much lower. Maybe you guys can help to explain this? It is odd, because the 120mm fan has a 1300rpm ... the 140mm fan has a 1200rpm according to Noctua. ( http://noctua.at/en/products/fan )

My Opinion: If I was in the position where the ram I currently owned was taller than 32mm - and my Case was not wide enough to support the raised fan offset ... I would be fine with a 2C increase in temperature. Now ... if there was an air cooler that would fit in my system that could beat the Noctua D15 ... I would go that route - but in all my research, I was unable to find any cooler that even came close to the Noctua D15 ... without moving to liquid cooling - which I am not interested in due to potential leaking.

Test #3 coming soon.

 


Wow thank goodness I can use both the 150mm fans, they basically stay between 320 tp 350 rpm.
Even when Magician locked the cpu permenantly between 3.5 to 3.8 Ghz they were both at 485 rpm. Must be horribly noisy at those numbers. For £120 I would buy another case, rather than live with a Lear Jet taking off 24x7
 
Final Results:

Alright, so here are the results for all 3 test. Each test consist of roughly 30 minutes of prime 95 blend test on all 8 cores of a fx8350 (4.0ghz - not overclocked for test)

Test #1: 2x140mm

Average Thermal Margin: 33.25C

Click on link and scroll down ( 3 photos )

http://imgur.com/a/DjFef


Test #2: 1x120mm and 1x140mm

Average Thermal Margin: 31.02C

http://imgur.com/a/7cYqJ


Test #3: 2x140mm and 1x120mm

Average Thermal Margin: 31.37C

http://imgur.com/a/EdmAb


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So as I was watching my 3rd final test, something came to mind. The 3 fan setup was performing worse than the 2x140mm. This really doesn't make sense ... but then I considered. The test were done at separate times of the day. The 2x140mm test was done first ( because this is how my rig is generally running ) ... It was done earlier in the morning - Before the sun had a chance to sit over the top of my house. A little background, my computer room is up stairs, and my house is a vaulted ceiling house ( in my living room the ceiling is roughly 25ft tall. Although this is gorgeous, after we purchased it we soon found that having this tall of a ceiling takes the "heat rises" concept to a whole new level. Test #2 and #3 were done around 3pm'ish - 6pm'ish - Today was roughly a 90F day in good old Nebraska. Long story short, Test #2 and #3 had higher ambient room temperatures.

**UPDATE** - I ran another stress test later at night when the sun went down. It was definitely due to ambient room temperatures.

This is with the 3 fan setup 2x140mm and 1x120mm

http://i.imgur.com/2y8Z8oc.jpg

Average Thermal Margin: 37.39

I think it is pretty safe to say that a 1x120mm and 1x140mm will provide the same results as 2x140mm within 1C differential.

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Regarding sound - I actually dont really notice my computers noise. Before I got the Noctua's I was running the stock CoolerMaster that came with my fx8350 - That thing did sound like a Jet taking off. As soon as the computer started heating up with the stock - the fans became noticeably louder - and my room would get noticeably hotter.

After the Noctua cooler - I have never heard my fans "kick it up a notch" - from Idle to Full Load... the fans have the same noise output.

I also sit around 5 - 6 feet away from my PC - this could possibly be why I dont hear it? No idea.

Currently my Computer has the following fans:

Case: Thermaltake GT Level 10
3x200mm + 1x140mm rear exhaust.

CPU:
2x140mm + 1x120mm

GPU:
gtx 760SC - whatever fans that has. Hoping to upgrade to the new gtx1080 as soon as resellers stop charging 2x the MSRP.

 
Well at 1200 rpm there is not going to be much kick up.
Personally I think you are missing the benefit of this cooler i.e. Running virtually silently at 300-500 rpm and still keeping the cores between 29C - 37C.
But if you are happy thats great. Bit for others thinking about it I would absolutely keep the 150mm standard fans.
 
@PeterZ - I agree with you on the fans. If you are able to run both 140mm fans given your ram size keep it for sure! ( I use both 140mm ) - the 120mm option was only mentioned because you often see many people wondering if they will be able to fit their ram under the 140mm fan. Some people are unable to position the 140mm fan above the ram in a higher positioning ( case wont close ) - the 120mm fan is a great fix for them. 120mm fan above the ram (push format) - 140mm fan in the middle of the heat sink (push format) - 140mm fan toward the rear of the heat sink (pull format). This allows them to use this air cooler without replacing their ram. (a 20$ Noctua fan is much cheaper than replacing several sticks of ram).

I did extensive research before I bought this cooler, and 1 take away I found was - everyone wants to know if their ram will fit under the fan. So, I wanted to provide a solution that should fit most peoples ram ( up to 52mm tall )
 
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