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My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.
Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus program that you
can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your computer.. A while back
someone recommended one that was actually free but for the life of me I
cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing to go when getting old
lol....
 
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*ANY* Antivirus program that is doing its job will slow down a computer to
some degree. Norton AV is no worse in that respect than any other, despite
what the nay sayers will scream. If your computer is properly maintained,
the effect of NAV or any antivirus program should be minimal. The antivirus
should scan any executable file when clicked, any word documents that are
opened, and should scan all files downloaded to your HDD. Your mail should
also be scanned.

There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
world. It is simply the best. The choice is always yours, but I personally
would go with what is regarded by the public at large as the best (measured
by sales), and that is Norton AV. FWIW, I have it installed on 5 computers
in my home, all of varying vintages, and NAV has not noticeable impact on
overall speed. Of course, I keep my system healthy, which would lessen the
impact of the NAV scans. Also, the more physical RAM you have, the less you
will notice tie influence of any AV program.

In short, if you install any AV program and you cannot notice any change in
your system performance after you install it, it is probably not a very good
AV program.

Bobby

"PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was
> always a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow
> down PCs. Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus
> program that you can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your
> computer.. A while back someone recommended one that was actually free but
> for the life of me I cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing
> to go when getting old lol....
>



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On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:37:57 -0400, "PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
>trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
>a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.

I recently came to the same conclusion when my Norton A/V came up for
renewel yet again. Avast Anti-virus is free and works great for me.
 
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"NoNoBadDog!" wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
> world.

Marketing and advertising.

Notan
 
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So does that explain why it is used by most Departments within the Federal
Government, Most Financial Institutions, Most public and private
schools....I could go on and on but I won't. Simply put: If the product
did not work, no amount of marketing and advertising would keep it at #1 for
long.

Bobby

"Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
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> "NoNoBadDog!" wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
>> world.
>
> Marketing and advertising.
>
> Notan



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The reason that Norton, or any product for that matter, gets used by any
local, state, or federal governmental department is the incentive that
produces the sale in the first place. Norton will lowball any other
competitor so they get the contract. I deal with all levels of government
from municipalities to the General Accounting Office. They all work the
same. The lowest bid, not the best bid, gets the contract.

"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:429527ca$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
> So does that explain why it is used by most Departments within the Federal
> Government, Most Financial Institutions, Most public and private
> schools....I could go on and on but I won't. Simply put: If the product
> did not work, no amount of marketing and advertising would keep it at #1
for
> long.
>
> Bobby
>
> "Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
> news:42952625.B85F471C@ddress.com...
> > "NoNoBadDog!" wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
> >> world.
> >
> > Marketing and advertising.
> >
> > Notan
>
>
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PaulT wrote:

> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
> a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.
> Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus program that you
> can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your computer.. A while back
> someone recommended one that was actually free but for the life of me I
> cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing to go when getting old
> lol....
>
>

www.grisoft.com. Look for the AVG Free Edition link.

Bob
 
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In article <yOCdnWJr15ePSQnfRVn-jg@adelphia.com>, Yahoo@yahoo.com
says...

> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
> a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.

<snippety>

My opinion: Neither McAfee nor Symantec are worth the media
they're issued on.

The AV program I've been most satisfied with to date is AVG
Antivirus, from Grisoft. I've had it running a full scan in the
background while I do other things, and I barely notice any slowdown.

http://www.grisoft.com

Happy hunting.


--
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(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
 
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In article <42951be9$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net>, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> says...

<snippety>

> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
> world. It is simply the best...

The best what?

(Sorry... Couldn't resist!) ;-)


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
 
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All versions of Norton Antivirus after 2002 are full of bloat and work
like SH??. i refuse to run any of their versions. they lost me as a
customer for life. same for mcaffee. AVG is good.


PaulT wrote:
> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
> a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.
> Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus program that you
> can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your computer.. A while back
> someone recommended one that was actually free but for the life of me I
> cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing to go when getting old
> lol....
>
>
 
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In article <429527ca$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net>, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> says...

< Top-posting corrected. Please don't top-post on Usenet! See this
link for the reason why:

http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost >


> "Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
> news:42952625.B85F471C@ddress.com...
> > "NoNoBadDog!" wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
> >> world.
> >
> > Marketing and advertising.
> >
> > Notan

> So does that explain why it is used by most Departments within the Federal
> Government, Most Financial Institutions, Most public and private
> schools....I could go on and on but I won't. Simply put: If the product
> did not work, no amount of marketing and advertising would keep it at #1 for
> long.

I respectfully disagree. Look at Microsoft. They've been
successfully milking the public for the privilege of effectively 'beta
testing' their bug-ridden security-lax bloat-ware for decades, all on
the strength of the Redmond Marketing Machine.

I work in state government, and my wife works in federal. Trust
me, neither is any more immune to the Power of Marketing than Joe or
Jane Consumer.

It all comes down to what works for you. I don't trust Norton
because of the extensive installation problems they've had in times
past, to say nothing of the fact that at least two of their update files
broke more than they fixed.

Kaspersky, to my eyes, was no better. I had to fight to make it
install, and it ended up corrupting my system so badly that I had to
flatline it and start from scratch.

AVG (for the last two years at least) has proven to be
extraordinarily stable and trouble-free for my entire LAN. Your mileage
may vary.

Keep the peace(es).


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"
 
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I use AVG Free Edition and am satisfied with it.
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5


"PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:yOCdnWJr15ePSQnfRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was
> always a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow
> down PCs. Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus
> program that you can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your
> computer.. A while back someone recommended one that was actually free but
> for the life of me I cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing
> to go when getting old lol....
>
 
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"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:42951be9$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
> *ANY* Antivirus program that is doing its job will slow down a computer to
> some degree.

<snip>


"Some degree", true.

NAV2005 however is a system-killing bloatpig that is convoluted beyond
necessary efficiency and is invasive as all h3ll.

I'm not even going to speak of the profane amount of registry entries it
creates even in minimal install.

AVG in conjunction with a good firewall, regular Windows Updates and
antispyware solution(s) is fine, imo. I've seen this approach work on dozens
of consumer machines.

I simply and respectfully disagree. Heck, even McAfee 8 didn't have such
negative effects on my system - and it's a pig as well.


Stew
 
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"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
news:429527ca$1_1@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
> So does that explain why it is used by most Departments within the Federal
> Government, Most Financial Institutions, Most public and private
> schools....I could go on and on but I won't. Simply put: If the product
> did not work, no amount of marketing and advertising would keep it at #1
> for long.
>
> Bobby
>


Bobby,

I'd hardly consider governmental agencies (either federal or local) as
sterling examples of either efficiency or IT prowess. Additionally (and not
to simply be argumentative), your example is anecdotal. Got a link?

I've not tried NAV05 on my 3GHz machine yet, but I'm still guessing it will
smother it's performance significantly - meaning, make the machine
"sluggish".


Stew
 
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Kinda like Dell. They sell many because of marketing and advertising,
however, Dell is nowhere near the best PC maker. Furthermore, the service is
a joke.
"Notan" <notan@ddress.com> wrote in message
news:42952625.B85F471C@ddress.com...
> "NoNoBadDog!" wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
>> world.
>
> Marketing and advertising.
>
> Notan
 
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"Kevin Haas" <khaas22no@bellspouth.net> wrote in message
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> Kinda like Dell. They sell many because of marketing and advertising,
> however, Dell is nowhere near the best PC maker. Furthermore, the service
> is a joke.


Cool, chief. Put us on to the best OEM PC maker out there. We're waiting
to hear the endorsement and shoot us a link.

BTW, Apple doesn't count as a PC.


Stew
 
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:37:57 -0400, "PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
>trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
>a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.
>Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus program that you
>can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your computer.. A while back
>someone recommended one that was actually free but for the life of me I
>cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing to go when getting old
>lol....
>
AVG is the free one. I use it with no problems. In fact I like it so
much I think I'll buy it. But all AV's will use some system
resources. As to whether one uses more than another I can't answer.
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"PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.

Yeah, Norton runs a whole bunch of different processes and steals a
whole bunch of memory and performance. I prefer McAfee Managed
VirusScan from http://www.mcafeeasap.com (it's three processes, about
23M total, and doesn't seem to impact my performance noticably). The
major downside is you have to buy 2 or 3 licenses at once, but that's
not a fatal problem for most of my clients, as I can usually mix and
match...
 
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You can buy the professional version of MacAfee pro ver 9. It is just
Anti-Virus software nothing else!

http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/Results.aspx?viewallmfrn=1&key=virusscan+enterprise+8.0.0&mfrn=5776770&platform=all&x=16&srtmfrn=1&y=16

It cost 10 bucks more for 2 licenses so if you have 2 computers it is a
great deal.

Also check with your company. Some provide AV software free (mine does) or
at a discount.

Wayne


<William P. N. Smith> wrote in message
news:1bba91p23mmq0bte7lsh3o8pbu9o4l7v4n@4ax.com...
> "PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down
>>PCs.
>
> Yeah, Norton runs a whole bunch of different processes and steals a
> whole bunch of memory and performance. I prefer McAfee Managed
> VirusScan from http://www.mcafeeasap.com (it's three processes, about
> 23M total, and doesn't seem to impact my performance noticably). The
> major downside is you have to buy 2 or 3 licenses at once, but that's
> not a fatal problem for most of my clients, as I can usually mix and
> match...
>
 
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Norton is the top seller because they make deals with the PC companies
like Dell to install their bloatware on everyone's machine, whether
you want it nor not. A friend of mine wanted to buy a PC from Dell a
year ago, and they would not sell it to him unless they installed
Norton. He wound up building his own, because of that.

I finally got rid of Norton this month and replaced it with Trend
Micro's PcCillin and my Gaming PC is running much better. The updates
that PcCillin gets are much more frequent that Norton, and the program
is as smooth as silk. The biggest hassle, was uninstalling Norton.
It is like trying to get rid of Poison Ivy.

Bob







On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:40:39 -1000, "NoNoBadDog!"
<mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote:

>*ANY* Antivirus program that is doing its job will slow down a computer to
>some degree. Norton AV is no worse in that respect than any other, despite
>what the nay sayers will scream. If your computer is properly maintained,
>the effect of NAV or any antivirus program should be minimal. The antivirus
>should scan any executable file when clicked, any word documents that are
>opened, and should scan all files downloaded to your HDD. Your mail should
>also be scanned.
>
>There is a reason that Norton AV is the best selling AV program in the
>world. It is simply the best. The choice is always yours, but I personally
>would go with what is regarded by the public at large as the best (measured
>by sales), and that is Norton AV. FWIW, I have it installed on 5 computers
>in my home, all of varying vintages, and NAV has not noticeable impact on
>overall speed. Of course, I keep my system healthy, which would lessen the
>impact of the NAV scans. Also, the more physical RAM you have, the less you
>will notice tie influence of any AV program.
>
>In short, if you install any AV program and you cannot notice any change in
>your system performance after you install it, it is probably not a very good
>AV program.
>
>Bobby
>
>"PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:yOCdnWJr15ePSQnfRVn-jg@adelphia.com...
>> My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
>> trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was
>> always a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow
>> down PCs. Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus
>> program that you can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your
>> computer.. A while back someone recommended one that was actually free but
>> for the life of me I cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing
>> to go when getting old lol....
>>
>
>
>
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 01:47:12 GMT, Capt Bob <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Norton is the top seller because they make deals with the PC companies
>like Dell to install their bloatware on everyone's machine, whether
>you want it nor not.

How do you explain the fact that my wife's Dell came with McAfee?

> A friend of mine wanted to buy a PC from Dell a
>year ago, and they would not sell it to him unless they installed
>Norton. He wound up building his own, because of that.

LOL Kinda drastic! Has he never heard of Add/Remove Programs?

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Paul,
etrust Antivirus is very compatible with Windows OS's. Used the free version
for a couple of years, and the fee based one for a couple of years now.

www.my-etrust.com

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"Paul Knudsen" <bigkahuna@jupada.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:37:57 -0400, "PaulT" <Yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>My McAfee AV that came with my Dell 8400 is nearing the end of the free
>trial period and really not sure if I want to subscribe to it, I was always
>a big fan of Nortons but have read recently Nortons seems to slow down PCs.
>Any recommendations here on what would be a good anti virus program that
>you
>can count on to catch viruses yet not slow down your computer.. A while
>back
>someone recommended one that was actually free but for the life of me I
>cannot remember the name... Memory is the first thing to go when getting
>old
>lol....
>
AVG is the free one. I use it with no problems. In fact I like it so
much I think I'll buy it. But all AV's will use some system
resources. As to whether one uses more than another I can't answer.
--
Top 10 Conservative Idiots:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/
 
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"Tweek" <shawnwingetNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OPqle.5276$qJ3.4006@trnddc05...
> AVG has been nothing but excellent in my experience. It will even catch
> some spyware that tries to install via active-x controls. It catches quite
> a few things that norton overlooks.
>


Frequent and small automatic updates, email scanning up and down, minimally
invasive real-time protection and scan scheduling.

What's not to like.


Stew
 
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