[SOLVED] Noob looking for GPU upgrade to Z230

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I have a hp z230 with xeon e3-1271 v3, 16gb ram, nvidia quadro k2200. I play HOTS and Apex legends but the latter is running with very low fps. I'm looking to get the best bang for buck gpu around 300 dollars. What can I get and will I have to upgrade the psu?
 
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Gnarkill283 said:
This guy says I can use a 1650 though. Just to be absolutely sure, my best option is the 1050ti?
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A 150W GPU, needs 75W from the PCI-e slot and 75W from the 6-pin PSU auxiliary connector.
Yes, you could use a 1650... but one without an auxiliary 6-pin power connector.
The ones you listed above required 6-pin power connectors.

You need a 75W GPU that gets all the power from the PCI-e slot, like the Gigabyte GTX 1650 OC (GV-N1650OC-4GD)
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That computer comes with a 400W PSU. Your current GPU gets all its power from the PCIe slot so I am assuming the PSU doesn't have any PCIe power cables for GPUs. You will be limited to GPUs that can get their power from the PCIe slot then and currently the best is the 1650.
 
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Hi,

Any decent gpu will need additional power connections which I'm almost certain your current psu does not have. Other thing is the psu in your computer doesn't have standard atx connections when you are looking at a psu upgrade you will be able to got for standard atx psu with an added measure. Adpater you will need for a new psu. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1pcs-24-...Adapter-Cable-for-Lenovo-IBMTFSU/264354278367

Honestly a GTX 1060 6GB 2nd Hand would be about the best gpu you can go for before your cpu bottlenecks performance.
 
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Aero_X said:
Hi,

Any decent gpu will need additional power connections which I'm almost certain your current psu does not have. Other thing is the psu in your computer doesn't have standard atx connections when you are looking at a psu upgrade you will be able to got for standard atx psu with an added measure. Adpater you will need for a new psu. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1pcs-24-...Adapter-Cable-for-Lenovo-IBMTFSU/264354278367

Honestly a GTX 1060 6GB 2nd Hand would be about the best gpu you can go for before your cpu bottlenecks performance.
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You do realize that an e3-1271 v3 is equivalent to an i7-4770k at stock clocks.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...n-processor-e3-1271-v3-8m-cache-3-60-ghz.html
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No one is going to say that anything more than a 1060 6GB is going to start being bottlenecked by a 4770K.

@Gnarkill283 Is this the full sized workstation or the small form factor workstation?
 
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jeremyj_83 said:
You do realize that an e3-1271 v3 is equivalent to an i7-4770k at stock clocks.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...n-processor-e3-1271-v3-8m-cache-3-60-ghz.html
ark.intel.com

Product Specifications

quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
ark.intel.com ark.intel.com
No one is going to say that anything more than a 1060 6GB is going to start being bottlenecked by a 4770K.

@Gnarkill283 Is this the full sized workstation or the small form factor workstation?
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full sized workstation. So I can't upgrade the PSU? I'm stuck with the 1060?
 
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Gnarkill283 said:
full sized workstation. So I can't upgrade the PSU? I'm stuck with the 1060?
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Yes, you can upgrade your HP z230 ...but it requires some modifications since HP does not follow standard ATX specification.
Since HP does not use standard 20-24 pin ATX PSU power connector, you need to buy a 18-pin to 42-pin ATX adapter.
Standard PSU mounting holes won't align, so you could drill a couple of holes to mount a standard PSU.


PSU
CORSAIR CX550 550W (if going with the RTX 2060)
ATX Power adapter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074G12LT5
 
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jojesa said:
Where do you get that info.

The 4770K and e3-1271 v3 are very capable gaming CPUs.
I have a 4770K paired with a GTX 1080 and it performs very well in games.
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Were you asking me where I got the info that the e3-1271v3 is equivalent to an i7-4770k at stock clocks? If so then I had linked the Intel ark pages before and the e3 has a +100MHz base and boost clock on the 4770k and they are both Haswell architecture with same amount of cache. That means both will perform the same.
 
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jeremyj_83 said:
Were you asking me where I got the info that the e3-1271v3 is equivalent to an i7-4770k at stock clocks? If so then I had linked the Intel ark pages before and the e3 has a +100MHz base and boost clock on the 4770k and they are both Haswell architecture with same amount of cache. That means both will perform the same.
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I was referring to this below.
jeremyj_83 said:
...anything more than a 1060 6GB is going to start being bottlenecked by a 4770K.
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jojesa said:
I was referring to this below.
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I didn't make that claim, I said "No one is going to say that anything more than a 1060 6GB is going to start being bottlenecked by a 4770K." in response to this message
Aero_X said:
Honestly a GTX 1060 6GB 2nd Hand would be about the best gpu you can go for before your cpu bottlenecks performance.
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I was disagreeing with what Aero_X had said.
 
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Gnarkill283 said:
So I might just settle with a gpu that can work with the current psu if I have to start drilling things to fit a large one. Whats the best card I can get then? And how about best deal? Here's an image of what the inside looks like (will I have to remove that black clip thing above the current gpu?):
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It isn't that the PSU will be bigger, is that HP uses non-standard mounting holes.

Those GPUs won't work since they require 6-pin power that your PSU does not have.
Since the current PSU does not hace auxiliary power cables for a GPU, then you will have to go with a GTX 1050 ti that does not required external power (6-pin or 8-pin). It won't be a good deal, since they are overpriced.
EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (04G-P4-6251-KR)
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050 Ti OC (GV-N105TOC-4GD)
 
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jeremyj_83 said:
That computer comes with a 400W PSU. Your current GPU gets all its power from the PCIe slot so I am assuming the PSU doesn't have any PCIe power cables for GPUs. You will be limited to GPUs that can get their power from the PCIe slot then and currently the best is the 1650.
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This guy says I can use a 1650 though. Just to be absolutely sure, my best option is the 1050ti?
 
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Gnarkill283 said:
This guy says I can use a 1650 though. Just to be absolutely sure, my best option is the 1050ti?
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A 150W GPU, needs 75W from the PCI-e slot and 75W from the 6-pin PSU auxiliary connector.
Yes, you could use a 1650... but one without an auxiliary 6-pin power connector.
The ones you listed above required 6-pin power connectors.

You need a 75W GPU that gets all the power from the PCI-e slot, like the Gigabyte GTX 1650 OC (GV-N1650OC-4GD)
 
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jojesa said:
A 150W GPU, needs 75W from the PCI-e slot and 75W from the 6-pin PSU auxiliary connector.
Yes, you could use a 1650... but one without an auxiliary 6-pin power connector.
The ones you listed above required 6-pin power connectors.

You need a 75W GPU that gets all the power from the PCI-e slot, like the Gigabyte GTX 1650 OC (GV-N1650OC-4GD)
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Okay but the quickspecs says it can handle a 150 w amd gpu - why is that? In this forum a guy is saying any card that's 150w works: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Busin...0-with-HP-Z230-Workstation/m-p/7048582#M27109
 
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