[SOLVED] [noob] need help with PC upgrade

[beastmodegaming54321]

Hello
I am planing on upgrading my PC and i only know the basics about what to do, any help is welcome

current PC specs

-CPU: amd athlon ii x4 processor 640 (3.2GHz)
-GPU:amd radeon r7 260x double dissipation
-motherboard:https: peggatron narra 5 (https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01701270)
-PSU:BESTEC power supply 350 watts
-RAM:4gb ddr2(because of motherboard)

I have issues runnning game like r6seige at 60fps at lowest setting and games like ARMA 3 lag immensely for me.

I want to upgade my motherboard so i can upgrade my RAM but as i said im a noob and dont know if this will help, any and all help will be appreciated.
Thanks.

 

[R_1]

budget? what is your storage situation, drives and capacity? where, which country?

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

budget? what is your storage situation, drives and capacity? where, which country?

500GB hardrive
Right now i have about 200 dollars to spend on all of this
Im not sure what you mean about drives
Im in India (T-series Land)

 

[R_1]

budget? what is your storage situation, drives and capacity? where, which country?

500GB hardrive
Right now i have about 200 dollars to spend on all of this
Im not sure what you mean about drives
Im in India (T-series Land)

I meant hard drives, more than one? capacity of each? but its one 500GB

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

budget? what is your storage situation, drives and capacity? where, which country?

500GB hardrive
Right now i have about 200 dollars to spend on all of this
Im not sure what you mean about drives
Im in India (T-series Land)

I meant hard drives, more than one? capacity of each? but its one 500GB

yeah just one 500GB HDD does having more change the performance of your rig?

 

[R_1]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $191.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-10 03:14 EST-0500

reuse your case and GPU and drives. the athlon 200ge is cheap and faster than your current CPU, add double the RAM - if a single stick is cheaper you can get a single 8.

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $191.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-10 03:14 EST-0500

reuse your case and GPU and drives. the athlon 200ge is cheap and faster than your current CPU, add double the RAM - if a single stick is cheaper you can get a single 8.

Damn appreciate the help.

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $191.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-10 03:14 EST-0500

reuse your case and GPU and drives. the athlon 200ge is cheap and faster than your current CPU, add double the RAM - if a single stick is cheaper you can get a single 8.

I had to ask the new CPU listed has 2 cores while my current one has 4 doesn't that effect performance? (again im a noob so i dont reallly know)

 

[R_1]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $191.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-10 03:14 EST-0500

reuse your case and GPU and drives. the athlon 200ge is cheap and faster than your current CPU, add double the RAM - if a single stick is cheaper you can get a single 8.

I had to ask the new CPU listed has 2 cores while my current one has 4 doesn't that effect performance? (again im a noob so i dont reallly know)

the cores you have now are so inefficient compared to the new ones that even with less cores the CPU will do things faster.
think of it like this. would you rather have 4 bicycles or two motorbikes? if delivering lunches the motorbikes can cover more ground more quickly.
also the cores have SMT, Symmetric Multi-Thread cores. so you can still process 4 threads. like detachable steerable sidecars (the original batcycle) with motors that help with the deliveries.

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor ($54.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $191.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-10 03:14 EST-0500

reuse your case and GPU and drives. the athlon 200ge is cheap and faster than your current CPU, add double the RAM - if a single stick is cheaper you can get a single 8.

I had to ask the new CPU listed has 2 cores while my current one has 4 doesn't that effect performance? (again im a noob so i dont reallly know)

the cores you have now are so inefficient compared to the new ones that even with less cores the CPU will do things faster.
think of it like this. would you rather have 4 bicycles or two motorbikes? if delivering lunches the motorbikes can cover more ground more quickly.
also the cores have SMT, Symmetric Multi-Thread cores. so you can still process 4 threads. like detachable steerable sidecars (the original batcycle) with motors that help with the deliveries.

A weird analogy but effective nonetheless.
Also should I go to a computer store to install then parts or do them my self(in my experince the stores tend to rip me off so I stopped going)

 

[R_1]

thanks, just popped in my head

if you can turn a screwdriver you can do it with a few precautions. I get asked this a lot so I have a few remarks prepared. I call it a canned rant.

as you are upgrading you will need to ensure grounding while taking the system apart

Canned Grounding Rant-
shut down system and remove side panel. with the power cable plugged into the PSU and a grounded outlet. touch a bare unpainted metal area of the case. (my favorite spot is an unpainted screw securing the PSU) once you have grounded yourself you can unplug the computers power cable from the PSU and can touch the system.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
end canned rant-

when assembling follow these.
Assembly grounding:
plug in the power supply to the wall. you can touch an unpainted part of the PSU (insert an unpainted unfinished screw into the PSU mounting holes and touch the screw as a grounding point) once you have grounded yourself you can now touch and assemble the parts of the PC.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, reground yourself again.
install the CPU into the motherboard and the RAM into the slots.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, reground yourself again.
install the cooler to the CPU. install the motherboard into the case.
secure the motherboard down with the screws, make sure you remove any unwanted/needed mounts before securing the motherboard.
unplug the PSU and ground yourself again. install the PSU into the case and secure with the 4 mounting screws.
plug in the power cord and ground yourself again from now on after grounding, unplug the power supply cord from the wall.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
connect the power supply to the motherboard by the 24 pin and the AUX CPU power connector, install the GPU if one is selected, and install the drives with the supplied mounts in the case. connect the front panel connections to the case according to the manuals.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
if there are any other peripherals, like wifi cards or sound card install and secure now. verify all power cables are connected to the motherboard and the GPU if needed.
the system can now be booted and the BIOS adjusted if needed (refer to motherboard manual) then an OS installed. when you are sure the system will need no more working/tinkering you can install the side panel and close the case. you have now assembled a PC.
end canned rant

toms has a channel on youtube, watch some assembly or upgrade videos, familiarize yourself with what goes where, card a - slot b. that sort of thing.
how to apply the heatsink. it there and a half hour on youtube can be very informative.
RTFM Read the full manual before you start so you can get to know the motherboard and its features
this is a troubleshooting page but its very informative
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems
have fun
if you need any help the forums are here
questions post back here

 

[beastmodegaming54321]

thanks, just popped in my head

if you can turn a screwdriver you can do it with a few precautions. I get asked this a lot so I have a few remarks prepared. I call it a canned rant.

as you are upgrading you will need to ensure grounding while taking the system apart

Canned Grounding Rant-
shut down system and remove side panel. with the power cable plugged into the PSU and a grounded outlet. touch a bare unpainted metal area of the case. (my favorite spot is an unpainted screw securing the PSU) once you have grounded yourself you can unplug the computers power cable from the PSU and can touch the system.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
end canned rant-

when assembling follow these.
Assembly grounding:
plug in the power supply to the wall. you can touch an unpainted part of the PSU (insert an unpainted unfinished screw into the PSU mounting holes and touch the screw as a grounding point) once you have grounded yourself you can now touch and assemble the parts of the PC.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, reground yourself again.
install the CPU into the motherboard and the RAM into the slots.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, reground yourself again.
install the cooler to the CPU. install the motherboard into the case.
secure the motherboard down with the screws, make sure you remove any unwanted/needed mounts before securing the motherboard.
unplug the PSU and ground yourself again. install the PSU into the case and secure with the 4 mounting screws.
plug in the power cord and ground yourself again from now on after grounding, unplug the power supply cord from the wall.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
connect the power supply to the motherboard by the 24 pin and the AUX CPU power connector, install the GPU if one is selected, and install the drives with the supplied mounts in the case. connect the front panel connections to the case according to the manuals.
if you move your feet, or shuffle in your chair, plug in the cord, reground yourself and unplug again.
if there are any other peripherals, like wifi cards or sound card install and secure now. verify all power cables are connected to the motherboard and the GPU if needed.
the system can now be booted and the BIOS adjusted if needed (refer to motherboard manual) then an OS installed. when you are sure the system will need no more working/tinkering you can install the side panel and close the case. you have now assembled a PC.
end canned rant

toms has a channel on youtube, watch some assembly or upgrade videos, familiarize yourself with what goes where, card a - slot b. that sort of thing.
how to apply the heatsink. it there and a half hour on youtube can be very informative.
RTFM Read the full manual before you start so you can get to know the motherboard and its features
this is a troubleshooting page but its very informative
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems
have fun
if you need any help the forums are here
questions post back here

just realized i wrote the wong cpu i have a AMD athlon ii x4 840 not a 640 does that change anything?

edit: wow im an idiot just checked CPU-Z and i have a AMD phenom ii x4 840 CPU

sorry for being an idiot and new advice is appreciated.

 

[R_1]

not by much. the 200ge is still about 25% faster than the 840, and the 840 is about 9% faster than the 640.
its still a big boost in performance and you can upgrade the CPU much easier as it is a current platform