Not A Windows Insider? You Can Get Windows 10 Right Now Anyway

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mattji104

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It's an official tool that isn't released to the public, or incorporated into their website in any way. If you link the thumbnail is not available page.

It didn't ask me for a key, automatically upgraded my Windows 8.1
 

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just finished using this to upgrade a win 7 starter netbook (remember those things.....)

took a while due to the low end hardware but worked flawlessly. still look about for info about the win 10 key to see if it has one but so far so good.

edit: just looked and the netbook is reporting a win 10 key different from its win 7 key. for the fun of it, when i get a chance and after i burn a copy of the iso i also downloaded today (or actually make a usb installer for the netbook), i will do afresh install with this key just to make sure it actually is a new key for win 10. will keep folks posted.
 

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I used this tool to install my Windows 10 and it`s activated even though i used Skip at the install key.

Though i did an update from 8.1 to 10 prior to this fresh install. Used the same memory stick made from this application.
 

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When I checked a few minutes ago and started my Windows X iso download, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 seemed very much accessible to the public and very much integrated in Microsoft's website. I now have a 3.25GB Windows X x64 iso file on my HDD using this method.

Not sure if I am going to try installing it until people have had a few weeks to comment on any show-stopper bugs and software breakage.
 

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When I checked a few minutes ago and started my Windows X iso download, http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 seemed very much accessible to the public and very much integrated in Microsoft's website. I now have a 3.25GB Windows X x64 iso file on my HDD using this method.

Not sure if I am going to try installing it until people have had a few weeks to comment on any show-stopper bugs and software breakage.
RTM is Build 10240 , it already runs for over a week on insider program :)
 

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It's an official tool that isn't released to the public, or incorporated into their website in any way. If you link the thumbnail is not available page.

It didn't ask me for a key, automatically upgraded my Windows 8.1
It uses your windows 8.1 key, so it doesn't need to ask.
It does not use an 8.1 key ! The install will ask for a key when you do a fresh install and it`s not working with the 8.1 one.
 

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my upgrade is listing a win 10 key through jelly bean key finder. it is different than the one that was there for win 7. look at your install as well and i bet there is a new key you should write down. that is what you will need to put in when doing a fresh install.

you do have to do the upgrade first to get this key so it will be a long day of watching installers run....
 


It does use your windows 8 key.
You can't do a "clean" install of windows 10, you'll have to install 8 first and then upgrade it to 10.

The windows 10 key in jellybean/other programs is actually the exact same key everyone has with windows 10. it's a generic one.
Probably looks like: VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T
 

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that is the insider win 10 key but not even close to my new one.

i'm not going to argue with you but you're way off here. MS released the iso file today as well (hence the point of this article) specifically so people could do fresh installs. they have also said this would be possible once you had upgraded and not before, meaning you got your key then and could use it to do a fresh install after you have it.

i am in the middle of the clean install now on my netbook and it indeed asked me for a key and took the one the keyfinder showed me. not my win 7 key which i tried first to see what would happen.

your confused between the insider build and the retail free upgrade for win7/8 users. they do get a new key and can use it for a fresh install like i and many others have already done today.
 

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I feel tempted to try my Insider key. Last time I had W10 installed I found that I am too attuned to W7 to switch yet.
 

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For those who are wondering about Windows 10 keys. I believe what is happening is that during install it looks for the existing key regardless of what version of Win 7 through 8.1 you have and checks with Microsoft to make sure it's validated. Then it generates a new key based on your existing key and hash of your hardware. So make sure you write down the Win 10 key via Jelly Bean so if you decide to do fresh install the key will only work on the SAME hardware you upgraded it on.
 

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I am an "Insider" as such I have been getting a lot of updates from MS over the last couple of days...today is 7/29. I'm assuming the a fore mentioned updates transformed my "win10 build" into a full retail version of Windows 10. I also went to MS website and simply downloaded an ISO version of Win10 just in case I ever need to do a fresh install of the OS...the ISO I downloaded was not a "build" but a full retail version of Windows 10 Home 64 bit. So I pretty sure the Win10 roll-out is going full force and I see no glitches in the way they are getting it out to users. Unless you actually buy a retail DVD or flash drive version of the OS I would highly recommend you visit the MS site and download a copy of the OS for when you need to do a fresh install and let's face it, at some time or another everyone will need to re-install their OS. Once you download the Media Creation Tool from MS it will ask you if you want to create an ISO or a flash drive version of the OS. Just select which one you prefer and your good to go!
 


Hmm, yeah I'm confused as hell now.

I've got 3 computers with windows 10.
One of them, is was my insider build, it obviously has the insider key. Done through Windows update.
The second is my main computer, it has the insider key. Done with an ISO I created on this PC for Windows 10 Pro 64bit burned to a DVD.
The third is my backup computer, it has a different key. Same DVD as previous computer.
The third computer's key won't work on the other two.
My windows 8 key won't work on any of them.

I wonder what will happen when I build my new computer on Friday and try to do a Windows 8 install followed by an upgrade to 10.
 

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the iso you used, is it the one from today or one of the insider builds? that may make a difference as to how it acts. the iso i used today with the new key was also downloaded today through their site this article is about. i'm trying to figure out why your experience is different than mine so far. this is all i can think of.

i am assuming this will make a difference overall, even if it is an insider build that should be the rtm version released today, since we have had it for a week now. all i can say is what i was able to do today myself which is: upgrade a win 7 netbook using this site, copy key from jellybean, fresh install win 10 pro 64 bit from iso downloaded today and used this new key to do it.

i am working on testing if that new key will work on a different pc so can't say anything about that right now.
 

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but once you get your permanent KEY for any of the win10 OS's you are currently using you can install that copy of win 10 on any PC you desire...I'm pretty sure the licence allows for you to be able to install windows 10 on (1) PC at a time. So if you install win10 on a new build PC just use one of the serials from a previously installed PC. Once you have the final Serial Key from MS that is your KEY. I used Belarc Adviser and found that MS changed my "insider key" they originally issued to me to a new KEY so I guess that's my new SN/KEY. Just remember you can only install win10 on one PC per KEY...
 

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Have you heard the one about the guy who decided to learn how to fly by jumping off the Empire State Building?
At about the 60th floor someone heard him say "I'm doing great so far!"
Upgrading to Windows 10 was easy breezy. Loving it.
 

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I wish Microsoft just make Windows 10 free period if they want the widest acceptance. This will go pretty well in the Enterprise world not having to deal with license keys and tracking. If they want support then they can get paid support subscription just like any open source software.

Server OS and applications should still be paid software.

How about it Microsoft?
 

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OK, I am confused. I did the upgrade from 8.1 to 10. I used Magical Jelly Bean Keyfinder to see the new Windows 10 Key so that I can do a clean install. It shows that the key is VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T. This would appear to be a generic key that many other people have. How do I get a Key for my system that will work properly with a clean install of 10 ?
 

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To me, it sounds like the only people who will have problems are those who are installing over Windows 10. Unfortunately, this article makes it sound like everyone who installs using this tool are going to have problems. It would be nice to have some clarity in the wording of the article in preference to giving the impression that everyone who installs this way will have problems.

In other words, Windows 10 insiders may have problems, but it sounds like those upgrading from 7, 8, or 8.1 are UNLIKELY to have problems using this method.
 

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ben doing a lot of reading this morning to see what others have figured out on the great wide web.

one thing i found interesting is many sites are reporting that once the upgrade is done, you cna do a fresh install from the iso/usb drive you get using the media creation tool. while doing the fresh install simply skip entering a key and let it install. then through the miracle of MS your win 10 will be activated once installed. it seems to be tied to hardware somehow so you will never need a key for that machine once it is updated.

i am in the middle of a fresh install right now so i can't say if it works completely, but after the input key page it went right to install like i expected it to. pick drive/partition, etc.... still watching it install so right now, i can't say if it will be activated or not but i will certainly update when it is done.
 


its more like when everyone upgraded from XP to vista years ago where the people were upgrading a new OS on 5-10 year old hardware and couldn't understand why they were having problems i ran into this issue when i upgraded on my desktop because i am using an old HT omega sound card and they haven't released an official windows 10 driver for it yet

 
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