Not sure if i should just buy a new pc or Upgrade

smileboy1444

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i5 4690 3.5ghz
H87-D3H
8GB ram
NEO 620W
GTX 660 2GB
I also want to get a new monitor 144hz 1ms
This is my current setup

I wonder if i should buy a new pc or just upgrade this setup I have a budget for a new pc but is it worth it ? Thanks
 
Solution
a few things.....with power supplys they need to be able to support the new low power sleep state from intel starting with the haswell cpu chips. if the 12v rail of your old power supply has not been updated then when your rig goes to sleep the power supply will shut off thinking there a fault. if you can wait on a new rig wait for the newer nvidia gpu and the newer intel cpu that will drop near the end of the year. there already leaks about the new x390 chipset and newer cpu.

smileboy1444

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The graphics card and the CPU are must change i know that but I need you to say what should I switch it for

I Have a 1320$ budget for upgrading / new pc
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 300 R 40.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.79 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($168.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB DUAL Video Card ($329.99 @ B&H)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($190.30 @ B&H)
Total: $1323.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-10 10:56 EDT-0400

here you go. $1324 for a PC, 16 GB of RAM, SSD + HDD, and 144 Hz monitor at 1080p
 

smileboy1444

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Yeah it might be true but thing is that I might get a deal if i buy a new pc or something that will make it not worth to only buy a new graphics card
And your solution is pretty good but not sure if it will be worth it because i might get a discount if i buy a bundle or something alike even thought i don't think this pc needs much upgrade and i don't really get why the guy above in the thread was sure that my whole pc is only 1/2 to 144hz o_O
 
if you want to keep your Aging I5-4560 and H81 Motherboard youo can, just get a 1060 for your gaming pleasure, but you will feel issues coming as the computer will bottleneck your video card, meaning stuiddeing issues more likely than not to happen with the old 4690.

I have been in your shoes, and I have upgraded to a 8700/Z370/16GB/1060 and I can tell you there is a world of differences.
I suggest the 8700 over the 8700K because you have not overclocked on this system and can ssave monies doing the same in the new generation system; here is what I suggest including a 1080p 144Hz Gaming monitor recommended (https://www.144hzmonitors.com/best-gaming-monitor/)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX B360-H GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($110.17 @ Amazon)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($158.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($157.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.28 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: ViewSonic - XG2402 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($249.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1434.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 07:16 EDT-0400
 


Bundle discounts are not a lot, and you can still buy a CPU/Mobo/RAM bundle if you want to save a bit if you don't like how the video card runs at 144hz with your CPU. Going up in resolution and refresh rate is more based on the video card than the CPU in many games, which is why I think faster video card would be all you need. Maybe a solid state drive if you don't have one. Both can be moved to a new motherboard/CPU setup if you feel the need for that.

I don't think that just getting the video card and new monitor will cause you any issues at all, at best you can run it fine at 144hz, at worst, you can run the 144hz monitor at 60 till you get a new CPU/Motherboard/RAM. There is no down-side.

I am running the same model CPU as you with a bit faster video card at 144hz and can get to 100fps in WOW (which wants a strong CPU) in normal areas and dungeons and about 40 fps in 25 man raids with graphics at about 75% of max.
 

smileboy1444

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Yeah i think i will change a cpu but thing is If that 6 core is that much of an update I have a question aswell i got currently harddrive I need to update aswell if i convert a mobo ? i have a Power supply aswell that will be more than enough
 
a few things.....with power supplys they need to be able to support the new low power sleep state from intel starting with the haswell cpu chips. if the 12v rail of your old power supply has not been updated then when your rig goes to sleep the power supply will shut off thinking there a fault. if you can wait on a new rig wait for the newer nvidia gpu and the newer intel cpu that will drop near the end of the year. there already leaks about the new x390 chipset and newer cpu.
 
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The low power state for Haswell or newer Intel only applies to c-states below C-3. C2 and C3 are still sleep states, but high enough power to be more like sleep+ready, vrs C4-6 which are deep sleep and don't happen for several hours.

You can turn off C4+ in almost any bios I've seen, including the one on my z77's.