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In the past hour Ive been forced to restart my computer about 25 times. Of those 25 times I only made it to the Windows desktop about 3 times. It inevitably always goes to a BSOD, but the error isnt always the same. The BSOD errors I have received are "Driver_IRQL_Not_Less_Than_Or_Equal" "IRQL_Not_Less_Than_Or_Equal" and then a 3rd, Im not 100% of what it said.

Ive ran "chkdsk"
Ive ran " SFC /SCANNOW"

The part I dont understand and what annoys me the most is the fact that when something is ran/scanned. Everything comes back clean. No errors found. No issues found, but simultaneously my computer cant stay booted up 10 min without encountering a problem.

Not sure what to make out of this situation. Those scans and checks seem all but worthless or Im missing something major.


Like running a diagnostic scan on a cars electrical & motor functions and it checks out 100% normal and clean, but the car wont stay running for 10 secs
 
Can you follow option one on the following link - here - and then do this step below: Small memory dumps - Have Windows Create a Small Memory Dump (Minidump) on BSOD - that creates a file in c windows/minidump after the next BSOD

  1. Open Windows File Explore
  2. Navigate to C:\Windows\Minidump
  3. Copy the mini-dump files out onto your Desktop
  4. Do not use Winzip, use the built in facility in Windows
  5. Select those files on your Desktop, right click them and choose 'Send to' - Compressed (zipped) folder
  6. Upload the zip file to the Cloud (OneDrive, DropBox . . . etc.)
  7. Then post a link here to the zip file, so we can take a look for you . . .
those 2 scans won't help if its a driver to blame, they just fix windows.

what are specs of your PC?
 
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In the past hour Ive been forced to restart my computer about 25 times. Of those 25 times I only made it to the Windows desktop about 3 times. It inevitably always goes to a BSOD, but the error isnt always the same. The BSOD errors I have received are "Driver_IRQL_Not_Less_Than_Or_Equal" "IRQL_Not_Less_Than_Or_Equal" and then a 3rd, Im not 100% of what it said.

Ive ran "chkdsk"
Ive ran " SFC /SCANNOW"

The part I dont understand and what annoys me the most is the fact that when something is ran/scanned. Everything comes back clean. No errors found. No issues found, but simultaneously my computer cant stay booted up 10 min without encountering a problem.

Not sure what to make out of this situation. Those scans and checks seem all but worthless or Im missing something major.


Like running a diagnostic scan on a cars electrical & motor functions and it checks out 100% normal and clean, but the car wont stay running for 10 secs
Put a copy of memtest86 on a flash stick.

Boot the stick and let it run.....no errors allowed.
 
Can you follow option one on the following link - here - and then do this step below: Small memory dumps - Have Windows Create a Small Memory Dump (Minidump) on BSOD - that creates a file in c windows/minidump after the next BSOD

  1. Open Windows File Explore
  2. Navigate to C:\Windows\Minidump
  3. Copy the mini-dump files out onto your Desktop
  4. Do not use Winzip, use the built in facility in Windows
  5. Select those files on your Desktop, right click them and choose 'Send to' - Compressed (zipped) folder
  6. Upload the zip file to the Cloud (OneDrive, DropBox . . . etc.)
  7. Then post a link here to the zip file, so we can take a look for you . . .
those 2 scans won't help if its a driver to blame, they just fix windows.

what are specs of your PC?

! Update !
I went ahead and did the reinstallation from Cloud for W10 while selecting the option to preserve my files and the apps it was able to keep. Everything was fine for a few days and then a couple different times now its either froze entirely or gave me the BSOD. I have 3 compressed file logs as you instructed. I tinkered with my Nvidia settings like the Smoothness of Fonts etc thinking it may be a GPU fault or something. Hopefully the file logs will pinpoint the problem or at least be informative enough to steer me in the right direction.


Thank You


Compressed Mini Dump File Logs
 
Put a copy of memtest86 on a flash stick.

Boot the stick and let it run.....no errors allowed.
I actually have that already and Ive ran it before, but not since these issues have been happening. I will run it again if the Mini Dump File Logs arent of any help. Thanks for the suggestion
 
Conversion of dumps

report - Click run as fiddle to see report

File: 102022-7234-01.dmp (Oct 21 2022 - 03:06:21)
BugCheck: [PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)]
Probably caused by: ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: chrome.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 21 Hour(s), 57 Min(s), and 17 Sec(s)

File: 101922-6968-01.dmp (Oct 19 2022 - 16:28:29)
BugCheck: [PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)]
Probably caused by: ntkrnlmp.exe (Process: svchost.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 1 Hour(s), 02 Min(s), and 11 Sec(s)

File: 101822-8109-01.dmp (Oct 19 2022 - 14:38:13)
BugCheck: [PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)]
Probably caused by: memory_corruption (Process: chrome.exe)
Uptime: 0 Day(s), 0 Hour(s), 13 Min(s), and 05 Sec(s)

process mentioned is victim, memory corruption can just mean drivers. Doesn't mean ram, I see it a lot

it looks like drivers, not memory. All happened after the CPU tried to access ram it didn't have access to. Normally a driver giving wrong instructions.

try running Win10 Auto Installation Program (NDIS) from under windows header here -
https://www.realtek.com/en/componen...0-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software

download chipset drivers (not stormi or raid) - https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b350

see if that helps
 
see if that helps

Computer Specs

ProcessorAMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor
Number of Cores12
Speed3.8 GHz

RAM16 GB
Video CardNVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Total Menmory12 GB
Dedicated Memory4.0 GB
Driver Version31.0.15.1748
BIOS1.M0
ManufacturerAmerican Megatrends Inc.
Free Memory1.1 TB
Free Memory144 GB
Size2.0 TB
DirectX11.0
.NET4.8



I have 5 Audio Profiles as well - Webcam - Blue Snowball - Nvidia - RealTek - Microsoft Streaming Proxy (Idk what this is exactly)

I downloaded those Chipset Drivers and Realtek Controllers.

Rebooted. So far so good.

Ill update if/when it BSOD. If everything stays stable Ill update in a couple days.

Thanks for you help. Its appreciated
 
Conversion of dumps
It just did a series of restarts.

  • Shut down and restarted without BSOD
  • After reboot it restarted again
  • Opened Chrome, rebooted ... BSOD

For some reason the log file is in the Mini Dump folder, but it wont let me compress it.


I was try to think if Ive done anything in the past 12-18 months that would/could cause issues and I remembered of 2 tweaks Ive done in that time frame:

1) Increased the RAM speed marginally. Not sure how much exactly. I know what the speed is now, but Im not sure what the speed was defaulted at

2) In Advanced System Settings > Performance Options > Virtual Memory: I upped the Paging File Size. I think the default setting is to have it Automatically manage and I increased it slightly.


It does seem like a RAM issue, but not sure why the influx of issues now when I changed those settings over a year ago. Also, in that 18 month time frame Ive reinstalled Windows while keeping my files twice. When doing that Im not sure if it would default back those settings I tweaked. This is my 1st time since building the PC in 2017 that Ive ran into a persistent issue like this, so this is all a learning experience for me.
 
For some reason the log file is in the Mini Dump folder, but it wont let me compress it.
did you copy the dump to desktop like instructions and then select the file off the desktop? As you don't own the original file, the system does.

Your ram speed now is the best you can get on your chipset with that ram
8192MB2933MHzUnknownF4-3000C15-8GRK
you could turn xmp off and see if it makes any difference

Making page file bigger has no effect. PC only uses what it needs, giving it more doesn't change that. Leave as auto, it will grow it if it needs it.

Also, in that 18 month time frame Ive reinstalled Windows while keeping my files twice. When doing that Im not sure if it would default back those settings I tweaked.
page file size would have changed back, but the ram setting is in the BIOS and that doesn't change if you reinstall windows.
 
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