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Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

I am considering giving my desktop pc to my second son and buying a
notebook, provided I find one that I can use for simulations like FS9,
PacificFighters and SH3.

My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and an
Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with the
performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.

Any usefull suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,

Heiko
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

Heiko Thomas a écrit :

> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and an
> Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with the
> performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>
What a nice beast 🙂
You are right about the performance of a comparable notebook :
With the same specs : 2.8 GHz not Mhz lool, (remembers me of my old
C64), 1Go RAM, 128 Mo VRAM, performance of the notebook will
still be below its desktop counterpart, because of electrical
power/consumption constraints, circuitery design, etc.

I don't know which software you plan to run but for example :

I have X-Plane V8 running like a charm on my Pentium M-725 with
512 Mo RAM avec ATI 9600 64Mo VRAM on Windows XP.
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

"spaceman" <"\"nospam\"spaceman_h_95"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Heiko Thomas a écrit :
>
>> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and
>> an Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with
>> the performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>>
> What a nice beast 🙂
> You are right about the performance of a comparable notebook :
> With the same specs : 2.8 GHz not Mhz lool, (remembers me of my old
> C64), 1Go RAM, 128 Mo VRAM, performance of the notebook will
> still be below its desktop counterpart, because of electrical
> power/consumption constraints, circuitery design, etc.
>
> I don't know which software you plan to run but for example :
>
> I have X-Plane V8 running like a charm on my Pentium M-725 with
> 512 Mo RAM avec ATI 9600 64Mo VRAM on Windows XP.

Depending on how much you want to spend, Dell has a notebook that seems to
be a good gaming performer, at a reasonable price (under $3000). The Dell
Inspiron XPS Gen2. While you won't put up the same 3DMark scores as a
desktop, it will crank out some pretty good stuff.

Also, if you are just looking for compactness with some portability, build a
Small Form Factor (SFF) PC. I prefer the Shuttle ones because they are very
solid and well built. I have the SN95G5 Athlon 64 based PC. If you visit
http://us.shuttle.com you can either get one built by them, ut I recommend
building it yourself as you will probably get it a little cheaper and get
the components you want.

You can check out the different Shuttle PC's:
http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/brb_default.asp

They also have a 17" portable monitor and bag that seems to be getting some
glaring reviews. Just be sure to get the newer one (can't remember model)
because it has an anti-glare coating. Earlier ones had just clear plastic
which would glare terribly.
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

I use an Acer Ferrari 3200 - Athlon 64 - 2800 with Radeon Mobility 9700.
Handles most things I throw at it.

The Ferrari isn't to everyones taste but if you want a slimline light weight
notebook with plenty of power and a decent screen look no further.

--
Richard Moore
---------------------------------------
Aquila Cybernetic Ltd
http://www.e-aquila.com
---------------------------------------
"Heiko Thomas" <heikothomas@netcologne.de> wrote in message
news:d5ck2f$im5$1@newsreader3.netcologne.de...
>I am considering giving my desktop pc to my second son and buying a
>notebook, provided I find one that I can use for simulations like FS9,
>PacificFighters and SH3.
>
> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and
> an Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with
> the performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>
> Any usefull suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Heiko
>
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

X-plane might be worth a try. I owned version 5.x but after FS2002 came out,
x-plane did not cope with the improvements FS and it's add-ons had to offer,
to me that is.

On the military side, I guess I had any flight or naval sim since Aces of
the Pacific.

I am not playing very much any more because sims are getting to complicated
and take too much time theses days. I'm not complaining because I always
prayed for that level of realism but tuning a sim to a more playable level
of realism seems so "gameish" and embarrassing to me 😉

So my younger son (almost 6) is more and more occupying the desktop pc and
before long, I will have to give up mine or buy him his own.

So I thought I might as well have a notebook with a decent performance to
play some FS2004 or SH3 or Pacific Fighters (I love the carrier landings
most) and be able to take it with me on business trips and the like.

Where can I find comparison charts or something similar to find out the
difference in performance to desktop pcs? What is the most adequate graphics
chip for a notebook to look for and how fast are the slower notebook chips
really?
Any ideas?

Thank you,

Heiko



"spaceman" <"\"nospam\"spaceman_h_95"@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4279dd39$0$296$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> Heiko Thomas a écrit :
>
>> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and
>> an Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with
>> the performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>>
> What a nice beast 🙂
> You are right about the performance of a comparable notebook :
> With the same specs : 2.8 GHz not Mhz lool, (remembers me of my old
> C64), 1Go RAM, 128 Mo VRAM, performance of the notebook will
> still be below its desktop counterpart, because of electrical
> power/consumption constraints, circuitery design, etc.
>
> I don't know which software you plan to run but for example :
>
> I have X-Plane V8 running like a charm on my Pentium M-725 with
> 512 Mo RAM avec ATI 9600 64Mo VRAM on Windows XP.
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

Thank you for the hints, I checked them and found that there is a much
greater variety of bare bones than I ever thought.

However, what I'm looking for is a smaler and more portable that a bare
bone, a notebook would fit in fine here 😉.

I would like to have a pc to take with me on business trip, that is capable
of running sims like FS2004, SH3 or Pacific Fighters at decent frame rates.
Do you have an idea, which graphic chip would do the job and how fast these
Centrino chips really are (compared to their slow frequency)?

Thank you,

Heiko
"HockeyTownUSA" <magma@killspam.comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "spaceman" <"\"nospam\"spaceman_h_95"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4279dd39$0$296$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
>> Heiko Thomas a écrit :
>>
>>> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram
>>> and an Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy
>>> with the performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>>>
>> What a nice beast 🙂
>> You are right about the performance of a comparable notebook :
>> With the same specs : 2.8 GHz not Mhz lool, (remembers me of my old
>> C64), 1Go RAM, 128 Mo VRAM, performance of the notebook will
>> still be below its desktop counterpart, because of electrical
>> power/consumption constraints, circuitery design, etc.
>>
>> I don't know which software you plan to run but for example :
>>
>> I have X-Plane V8 running like a charm on my Pentium M-725 with
>> 512 Mo RAM avec ATI 9600 64Mo VRAM on Windows XP.
>
> Depending on how much you want to spend, Dell has a notebook that seems to
> be a good gaming performer, at a reasonable price (under $3000). The Dell
> Inspiron XPS Gen2. While you won't put up the same 3DMark scores as a
> desktop, it will crank out some pretty good stuff.
>
> Also, if you are just looking for compactness with some portability, build
> a Small Form Factor (SFF) PC. I prefer the Shuttle ones because they are
> very solid and well built. I have the SN95G5 Athlon 64 based PC. If you
> visit http://us.shuttle.com you can either get one built by them, ut I
> recommend building it yourself as you will probably get it a little
> cheaper and get the components you want.
>
> You can check out the different Shuttle PC's:
> http://global.shuttle.com/Product/Barebone/brb_default.asp
>
> They also have a 17" portable monitor and bag that seems to be getting
> some glaring reviews. Just be sure to get the newer one (can't remember
> model) because it has an anti-glare coating. Earlier ones had just clear
> plastic which would glare terribly.
>
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

Heiko,

I run an HP Pavilion ZV5330 lap top with a 3.2 Meg Processor and an ATI 9000
IGP video card. It runs FS9 very very well. My problem is finding a small
joystick to pack along.

Tom Allensworth
www.avsim.com

"Heiko Thomas" <heikothomas@netcologne.de> wrote in message
news:d5ck2f$im5$1@newsreader3.netcologne.de...
>I am considering giving my desktop pc to my second son and buying a
>notebook, provided I find one that I can use for simulations like FS9,
>PacificFighters and SH3.
>
> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and
> an Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with
> the performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>
> Any usefull suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Heiko
>
 
Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim (More info?)

Heiko Thomas wrote:
> I am considering giving my desktop pc to my second son and buying a
> notebook, provided I find one that I can use for simulations like FS9,
> PacificFighters and SH3.
>
> My current system is running with an AMD 2.8MHz processor, 1024mb ram and an
> Nvidia 6800 128mb graphics card on Windows XP home. I am am happy with the
> performance and the notebook should not be considerably slower.
>
> Any usefull suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Heiko
>
>

Give your kid the notebook and you keep the desktop if you want to use
it for gaming. You'll never get the same horsepower or video out of a
notebook (even high end) that you get out of a dedicated desktop machine.

Better yet, tell your kid to save their money...a pc of their own can be
had from Dell for not so much.

Eric
 
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