NV 56.56-Another stellar NV hit

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Hooray!!! These new drivers ROCK!

If you own NV (and I hope you do if your reading this now), there are great new features.

1. GAME PROFILES
And when I say game profile support I mean you can set them up for ANY exe, completely customizable... they load on launch.
Very, very cool.
When I had my ATI this is what they claimed to have (to some degree) but you have to manually load them. Nuts to that.

2. "Play on my TV" option for right clicks on video files. Sends any video file directly to your TV... no ands, ifs or buts about it.

3. For some reason (and I'm not complaining) it even blocks popups LOL. Not bad, not bad... fixing other peoples problems! And probably doing a better job of it anyway...

Also gridlining is available but it isnt useful for me.
But FiringSquad rants about it.

Yet MORE reasons why NV software support is superior to all!

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yes it proven once again nVidia makes magic drivers, ATi makes PATCHES.

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And its proven once again some people sleep with their cards.

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I'm a genius!

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That is honestly the scariest thing I have heard in quite some time.

*slowly backs away*

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I must admit that those new features are great! And I wish ATI will add the "Video on TV" in Catalyst.

I can't wait to see IQ comparison on these new nVidia drivers, because the last comparison I read, ATI had the IQ advantage, but the performance were equal (9600 versus 5700).

This driver release will put pressure on ATI!

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3. For some reason (and I'm not complaining) it even blocks popups LOL. Not bad, not bad... fixing other peoples problems! And probably doing a better job of it anyway...
Ummm... that's on purpose, eh! It's a new feature of nView 3.5 they promote quite heavily (I guess for people who don't use Mozilla/Firefox or some other non-IE browser that has it built in).

Check the review I posted a few days ago;

<A HREF="http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/forceware_56.56/" target="_new">http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/forceware_56.56/</A>


However you do realize that as an nV owner/user/booster you're Doomed, <A HREF="http://www.fedex.com/us/about/advertising/tvads/dramawm.html?link=4" target="_new">DOOMED!</A>


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Yup. I gotta say I'm jealous, if for nothing except the game profiles feature.

Ati's profile feature is a joke. What good is it if you can't set it to automatically work with specific apps?

Hopefully Ati will take the cue from Nvidia on this one...

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Yet MORE reasons why NV software support is superior to all!
It has to be since their Hardware is Inferior. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I like the profiles bigtime though and will use them in my NVidia systems.

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It has to be since their Hardware is Inferior.
While I realize you were joking around. Its not inferior in all ways.
The hardware is more capable and more advanced, but it performs less in apps using DX9 hardware functions (which arent in high demand).
I predict that by the time DX9 or beyond is actually in use, NV will lead in every aspect once again.

^^
My usual flamebait :smile:

edit- PS. I dont want to piss off any FX users out there, after I reread my post I realize I dont want it to come across as my connotation being that NV is utterly and completely inferior, if not superior in many apps. The performance difference between the 5950 Ultra and 9800XT is not worth shouting over.
Let alone the 5900nonultras and 9600s.
The time for hating NV is over (and rather baseless IMO), as the old truths about the rivalry are becoming ever more clear.

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Who cares about HL2/D3 when we have Call of Duty today!!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kinney on 02/25/04 01:03 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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Yes we talked about this when I owned my 9800s.
Its amazing how the difference between having to right click and left click once, and having it auto load can peeve us off..
its not that for me, but rather that I have to remember to turn it back off once I leave game.

As far as ATI, if they'd take a strong lead in the driver innovation department I'd be all ATI.
But I found otherwise with my recent ATI experience that they still have compatibility and other issues.

Another thing I didnt mention was that now all FX cards will auto overclock with these drivers much like the XT line.
You have to enable the coolbits tweak and turn it on but its there.

Another interesting thing from NV.
They can someday allow FX and above users to get more performance the "safe" way... and pull even more performance out of their cards.
Actually quite a nice bonus for anyone with a FX.
Thats what I like about NV, though their FX line something they are now going to move away from with the NV40 release... they never forget users of their old cards..
even dating back to the original TNT or Riva.
I feel like they give a damn, and am willing to be dumping plenty of money into their new cards because of it.

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Whats the point in having profiles for games if you dont need them? My 9700p @ 9800p runs everything fine @ 6xAA and 8xAF. 16x af is a waste really......

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Everything for you, but my 9800Pro with my average system (1700+) could not run 'everything' with those settings. It will not remain that way for long if that is your preference.

For most people who have lesser cards (or the same card in my case) the individual settings is great.

I mean... LOL... if you feel you dont need them, you dont need them ROFL

Most of us have been wanting this for some time in both ATI and NV driver sets.

Better send out that request to ATI to not waste time on implementing it if thats your view. :wink:

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BTW to everyone, NV is still working on these and will officially release them March 1st.

I'd wait till then to upgrade... just a heads up tho.

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Yeah, but it will be another build name for the one they are still working on. Perhaps the 56.57, or 56.78 or something.


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The time for hating NV is over (and rather baseless IMO), as the old truths about the rivalry are becoming ever more clear.

WTF? It's ALWAYS time to hate nVidia. :tongue:

Damn them. Damn them to HELL!

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edit- PS. I dont want to piss off any FX users out there
Nah you had it right the first time, the FX sucks! Heck even the CEO said so himself!


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pauldh

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They can someday allow FX and above users to get more performance the "safe" way... and pull even more performance out of their cards.
Actually quite a nice bonus for anyone with a FX.
Cool now FX5200 owners might average 10fps at 800x600. :smile: Of course I agree any performance increase is a good thing.


they never forget users of their old cards..
They better not seeing as they keep releasing the same DX7 cards over and over under new names. GF2, GF4MX, soon the mighty 4300.
You know I have to still poke fun at NVidia. I own more NVidia cards than ATI and have used them in builds probably 2:1 over ATI in the past year (mostly because of the value of the Ti4200). Being an owner of both cards and running many machines during mini in-home LAN parties. I must say ATI impresses me far more than NVidia. Yes their magic drivers are helping, but apart from a few good cards (Ti4200, FX5900XT), IMO NVidia just doesn't put out the best product in almost any price range.


Speeduk
Whats the point in having profiles for games if you dont need them? My 9700p @ 9800p runs everything fine @ 6xAA and 8xAF.
To some extent I agree, but it still would come in handy. Can't play farcry demo with AA/AF. Hopefully the full game.

The main reason I bought the 9800 Pro was to use AA/AF at 1280x1024. And Nvidia cards simple do not compete with AA/AF. I bought an FX5900 hoping to use those settings, forget it. My R9500Pro was better looking and much higher FPS. I returned the 5900 and owned a R9800 non pro for a bit. Much better card. Now jumped on the price drops and went to the R9800 pro. HUGE difference in AA/AF. And honestly, why spend that kind of money and get poor AA/AF Performance and/or Quality.

I still disagree with anyone who claims a FX5950Ultra and Radeon 9800XT are equal. That is simple false IMO. Owning a $450 gaming card only makes sense if you use AA/AF. And at 4X/8X the FX is behind. I'd honestly rather OWN my Radeon 9800 Pro than an FX5950. The only reason I'd trade, is if I thought I could easily ebay the FX and make a few bucks. EDIT: I had in mind making some money to help pay for an upgrade to either ATI or NVidia's next generation cards.

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I agree with the two cards not being equal. They simply are not!! There are some games where my Ti4400 has benchmarked as high as the FX5600 or even higher, LOL. It is simply a design flaw, hopefully it will be remidied in the new NV40 cards. Although i believe that ATI's will still be alot faster with AA on unless Nvidia comes up with a new method or copies ATI(doubtful).

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cleeve

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While I agree that NV has got it right as far as driver features, I must say that I've never experienced the Ati compatibility/driver issue's you're talking about, Kinney.

What issues exactly did you have? I've been running Ati's for the past year, and the only problem I had in that time was the inability to use AA/AF with need for speed underground.

I play all the newest games/demos, and everything else has been just fine for me...

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Its the general quirkiness.
But over time I was generally dissatisfied... wierd artifacts (such as in Gladiator Sword of Vengeance or Counterstrike), or horrible lagginess in XP compared to NV cards, issues with drivers becoming corrupted and not allowing it to boot forcing a reinstall.. they've all been posted here before. Many contend with my points and say that its not ATIs fault, but it is. I've never experienced any of these identical issues with my NV cards. If that doesnt show blame I dont know what does. Again, might be my specific Nforce2 board.. I dont know, dont care. Also had multiple issues with my ATI tv tuner. Actually, that POS was absolutely ridiculous.
Plus, the driver features that NV provides are better.

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Yeah right bud. A 5950 Ultra does NOT suck. Only a entrenched, closeminded fanboy could say otherwise.

There is more than one "FX" contrary to what you claim, the CEO did not said it "sucked" but rather the 5800 itself was a mistake.
Its funny how people allow this one mishap shape their view of an entire companys product line....
sheep. :smile: :smile: :smile:


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If I had a 5950ultra I wouldnt be too unhappy. But I would rather have my 9700pro. 1/1/2 years old v's a few months old tech....

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I could give a damn less about your guys' pathetic arguement against long time reigning NV's superiority (and inevitable comeback when the ArtX technology is used up and its back to the 'excellent' ATI management/engineers)......
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Its like Hong Kong being taken over by the Chinese.. it was a GOOD thing but you know they'll ruin it in time!

I AM NOW A HONORARY POSTER! Yayy!!!

I HATE the title nimble knuckle.

Now if one of you could make that damn admin change my title to what I've requested "FORUM WARRIOR"!!!

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