Discussion NVIDIA Ampere RTX3000 series Discussion Thread(Updated Launch Specs)

[King Dranzer]

NVIDIA Ampere is rumored to be announced in August and launch in September at Computex. It is said to be decent improvement over Turing with around 40% performance improvement through out the lineup. With the launch of RTX3080Ti(most probably that is what the RTX2080Ti successor is going to be called) we can expect 4K 60fps+ in 90%+ titles at ultra settings which was not possible with present high end cards well still 4K 100fps+ will out of reach for majority of demanding titles.

GA102(TITAN, RTX3080Ti):
5376 CUDA Cores
24GB GDDR6

GA103(RTX3080):
3840 CUDA Cores
10GB GDDR6

GA104(RTX3070,RTX3060):
3072 CUDA Cores
8GB GDDR6

GA106(RTX2660Ti,RTX2660):
1920 CUDA Cores
6GB DDR6

GA107(RTX2650):
1280 CUDA Cores
4GB GDDR6

I doubt there will be non RTX cards even on low end, I guess all the cards will be Ray-tracing enabled and come packed with RT Cores.
The info out there is very little but the potential leaks of specs or rumors are interesting. We did expect even more than this but 40% performance improvement over Turing is not too bad. I hope there is at-least comparatively bigger jump in Ray-tracing performance compared to Raw performance making Ray-tracing bit more mainstream.

Are we finally getting to the point where a single GPU can handle 4K@60Hz without any limitations.

UPDATED SPECS AFTER LAUNCH
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RTX3090(TITAN)
10496 CUDA Cores
24GB GDDR6X
$1499

RTX3080
8704 CUDA Cores
10GB GDDR6X
$699

RTX3070
5888 CUDA Cores
8GB GDDR6
$499

That is pure Insanity in comparison to what we were expecting. Interesting. Lets see how the Performance goes in real world. On paper the specs are pure Insanity. If it delivers similarly in real world then we are in for a big WIN.

 

[cryoburner]

That is a big jump.

Unless they charge $1000+ for the 3080, making it more of a 2080 Ti successor. They shifted product names around last generation, so who's to say they won't do it again? >_>

It is possible that they know AMD will be bringing competition to the enthusiast market though, and might want to be a bit more competitive with the price to performance ratio for high-end parts this time around. Rumors seem to indicate that AMD will be doubling graphics core counts over the 5700 XT for "Big Navi", so it seems likely that they will have a card offering a similar level of performance as well.

 

[King Dranzer]

Unless they charge $1000+ for the 3080, making it more of a 2080 Ti successor. They shifted product names around last generation, so who's to say they won't do it again? >_>

It is possible that they know AMD will be bringing competition to the enthusiast market though, and might want to be a bit more competitive with the price to performance ratio for high-end parts this time around. Rumors seem to indicate that AMD will be doubling graphics core counts over the 5700 XT for "Big Navi", so it seems likely that they will have a card offering a similar level of performance as well.

At this point I don't think they will increase price. Thanks to competition form AMD.

Yes and that is NVIDIA is bit worried. It has to plan its steps a lot carefully. One it has tough competition this time. Second it is going to release its cards and pricing before AMD so it has to take lot into consideration.

 

[kksonakiya]

They are most certainly going to charge a hefty price tag for RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti. Just today, I read that RTX 2070 Super has been discontinued. And the prices have spiked rather than going down.
A more concerned part is that AMD Navi may not measure up to RTX 3080 Ti, which is a downer.

 

[King Dranzer]

They are most certainly going to charge a hefty price tag for RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti. Just today, I read that RTX 2070 Super has been discontinued. And the prices have spiked rather than going down.
A more concerned part is that AMD Navi may not measure up to RTX 3080 Ti, which is a downer.

The upcoming NAVI flagship will at-least be 50% performance improvement over RTX2080Ti and lets say RTX3080Ti will be 75% performance improvement over RTX2080Ti which definitely puts it above NAVI Flagship. But if NVIDIA prices it at $1500-1600 and AMD Prices its Flagship at $800-900. NVIDIA will get big hit on sales. But if it prices it at $1100-1200 it will be lot more sensible.

 

[King Dranzer]

Only 15 more days till we get official announcement from NVIDIA which will give us much clear picture of what to expect. Till then my guess on performance of upcoming RTX3000 series is that it will see good 70% performance increase over RTX2000 series throughout the lineup. It may seem to be way more than what it is expected to be. But that is my guess.

 

[King Dranzer]

That is a big GPU. But seriously why is reference card that big. This is pure insanity.

 

[cryoburner]

There were some leaks floating around a couple months back suggesting that the 3090 will have a 350 watt TDP, or around 35-40% higher power draw than a 2080 Ti. So, the huge triple-slot, dual 120mm fan cooler is likely necessary to keep the thing from overheating and/or being excessively loud under load.

 

[King Dranzer]

There were some leaks floating around a couple months back suggesting that the 3090 will have a 350 watt TDP, or around 35-40% higher power draw than a 2080 Ti. So, the huge triple-slot, dual 120mm fan cooler is likely necessary to keep the thing from overheating and/or being excessively loud under load.

How crazy AIBs will be. They are already as big in size as RTX3090/RTX3080Ti for RTX2080Ti. So how big will they get for RTX3090/RTX3080Ti.

 

[King Dranzer]

The new leaks suggest RTX3090 to have x2 Ray-Tracing performance of RTX2080Ti. Which is Bad. When NVIDIA said to x2 Ray tracing Performance in general long time ago I thought that only the ray tracing itself be scaling x2. But if RTX3090 is having x2 RTX2080Ti RT Performance then that means it is only x1.5 performance increase which is not that great. We have to take into consideration the 50% increase of Raster performance.

RTX2080Ti = 100fps(Raster) > 40fps(RT Ultra)
RTX3090 = 100fps(holding same Raster Performance) > 60fps(RT Ultra)
RTX3090 = 150fps(50% gain in Performance) > 90fps(RT Ultra x2 Performance Claimed by NVIDIA)
RTX3090 = 150fps > 120fps(RT Ultra This is what x2 performance should have been)

 

[King Dranzer]

Pricing on 3080 and 3070 is low and on 3090 is high. Hmmmmmmm.............

 

[Freestyle80]

Pricing on 3080 and 3070 is low and on 3090 is high. Hmmmmmmm.............

Because 3090 is a creator card, thats always been the price point...

 

[King Dranzer]

Because 3090 is a creator card, thats always been the price point...

Yep. RTX3090 is replacing both RTX2080Ti as well as TITAN RTX. Cant complaint much about the pricing. And as it will be produced through AIBs the Price will be flexible and will go down over time.

 

[jwcrellin]

RTX 3080 starting at $699, more realistically should budget $799 for a triple fan model. 3070 is same minus $200.

 

[Prem Sawari]

Can't freaking wait

 

[King Dranzer]

RTX 3080 starting at $699, more realistically should budget $799 for a triple fan model. 3070 is same minus $200.

Yes but not all triple Fan offerings will be that high even at launch. Gigabyte will offer entry level Triple Fan GPU for a very reasonable price. And Many Twin Fan or Dual Fan GPUs from EVGA, MSI at low price give tough Competition to High end GPU.

 

[Freestyle80]

Now i'm just curious about power requirements of 3080, they did say Ampere is twice the efficiency

 

[King Dranzer]

Now i'm just curious about power requirements of 3080, they did say Ampere is twice the efficiency

Yeah. Me too. Anyhow I wouldn't pair it with anything less than 850W.

 

[Freestyle80]

Yeah. Me too. Anyhow I wouldn't pair it with anything less than 850W.

seems like overkill as 700W or even 650W is enough for 2080ti

 

[Phaaze88]

seems like overkill as 700W or even 650W is enough for 2080ti

I see I'm not the only one who saw this.

 

[mjbn1977]

20TFlops for $499? 30TFlops for $699....???? what is AMD going to do....they can't win this over the price.....

 

[Kalik212]

750w PSU OK with headroom for the 3080?...or is 850w the safer option?...I plan on pairing it with the upcoming Zen 3 CPU (8 core)

 

[King Dranzer]

I see I'm not the only one who saw this.

Looking at the Specs of New Lineup(which are extremely confusing) NVIDIA Recommended 750W PSU on their website which makes it clear that we should at-least pair it with 850W PSU. The NEW GPUs are Power Hungry.

 

[Phaaze88]

Looking at the Specs of New Lineup(which are extremely confusing) NVIDIA Recommended 750W PSU on their website which makes it clear that we should at-least pair it with 850W PSU. The NEW GPUs are Power Hungry.

Actual Vbios limit, or no dice.
And a recommendation is just that, a recommendation, and nothing more.

 

[King Dranzer]

Actual Vbios limit, or no dice.
And a recommendation is just that, a recommendation, and nothing more.

Unless people start Under-volting their GPUs 850W is a safe bet for any RTX3080 from any Aftermarket Manufacturer as well as NVIDIA Reference Models. It is obvious that RTX3000 series will be lot more power consuming than what Turing RTX2000 series was.

 

[Phaaze88]

Unless people start Under-volting their GPUs 850W is a safe bet for any RTX3080 from any Aftermarket Manufacturer as well as NVIDIA Reference Models. It is obvious that RTX3000 series will be lot more power consuming than what Turing RTX2000 series was.

There you go with that again... there's no changing your current, inflexible mindset.
Moving on.


Those pricing gaps, tho. Nvidia hasn't played their entire hand. Whatever AMD does, Nvidia surely has a counter for it.