News Nvidia Announces RTX 4090 Coming October 12, RTX 4080 Later

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The high prices of the 40-series make the 30-series look way more attractive until you consider the best 30-series cards are still double or more the price of a console. Best play is to sit and wait Nvidia out. Gaming hardware shouldn't be a luxury that costs more than a weeklong trip to the Caribbean. Those 40-series prices will come down, and the 30-series prices will continue to fall too. Just wait.

I do wonder what the real-world performance of the 4080 16GB is compared to the 3090. Specifically, Blender performance and a few games. Synthetic and vendor-provided benchmarks don't give a clear indication of the performance the actual user sees.
 
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I'm going to wait for Nvidia to flesh out the rest of their lineup. I hear they are going to have a midrange RTX 4080 8GB at $799 and the entry level RTX 4080 6GB at $699.

But personally, I need a low end rig to run OBS, so I'm super excited for their lowest end RTX 40xx card, the budget gamer RTX 4080 4GB. It's going to be a total steal at $599. That's $100 cheaper than the launch price of the RTX 3080!
 

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Its too bad they can't use the extra space they have for more Ray Tracing cores. Instead of giving GPU Shader Cores a boost, they decide to throw an extra 5k Ray Tracing cores in there. I am sure they are totally different so they could never do that but whatever.
 
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Actually, no, they won't have ANY trouble. Book it.
Short-term, I absolutely agree. I know a lot of gamers who will queue up for the new uber-GPU. The same thing happened with the RTX 3090 at $1499 — except they were all sold out, and part of that was scalpers and part of it was prospective miners. Hopefully, with the glut of 30-series GPUs hitting the market, we see less success from the scalping zone. Basically, a scalper needs to be able to sell a card for 25% more than they pay for it to come out ahead. Which, save us Lord Gaben if there are a bunch of people paying $2,000+ for RTX 4090 cards. But there probably will be, especially if the supply is in the tens of thousands at most.
 

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On videocardz, the thread EVGA ends relationship with NVIDIA reached 757 comments after a few days. The thread NVIDIA debuts “Ada” GeForce RTX 40 series is already at 785 comments and the day has not even ended yet.

I guess the NVIDIA astroturfers are going to be extremely busy for weeks :ROFLMAO:
 

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The problem I have with this pricing is that it's the same model we've seen in other industries and consumers for some reason accept it. With the latter being the real problem. Nvidia is most certainly abusing their position in the market, and from what we've seen the last two generations AMD will be happy to join them.

I would love for consumers to just tell the entire industry nope, because it would only take one failed generation to bring pricing back to earth. Nvidia has huge enough margins they could cut costs, and simply won't because they don't need to.

I'll be riding my current card for the foreseeable future unless Intel does a price reset on the market when I go to build a new system.
 
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I doubt these will will stick to their MSRPs very long, especially if AMD's next-gen product is competitive. It's not crypto boom times anymore, energy prices are not making mining any more appealing, and there's a global recession. Nvidia might hope for a repeat of the 30xx situation but it ain't happening.
 
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Prices have to be high for the introduction card. always has been.
If performance is as expected and they price it lower then prices on 3000 series cards will tank even faster because no one will buy them at current prices.
They need to sell a lot of 3000 series cards this holiday season so expect low volume and high prices on the 4000 series, when they initially become available.
Same as always.
 

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So they did the same <Mod Edit> as the 2000 series.

They moved the names while retaining the same price structures.
Like how the 1080 GTX price point was for the 2070 RTX. So... The 3090 successor is now the "4080" with the same price point of a super high end card.
The 3000/2000 RTX TITAN card successor is now the 4090.
 
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The problem I have with this pricing is that it's the same model we've seen in other industries and consumers for some reason accept it. With the latter being the real problem. Nvidia is most certainly abusing their position in the market, and from what we've seen the last two generations AMD will be happy to join them.

I would love for consumers to just tell the entire industry nope, because it would only take one failed generation to bring pricing back to earth. Nvidia has huge enough margins they could cut costs, and simply won't because they don't need to.

I'll be riding my current card for the foreseeable future unless Intel does a price reset on the market when I go to build a new system.
Step 1 to empowering consumers: Stop calling them consumers.
Locusts are consumers. People are customers.
 

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On videocardz, the thread EVGA ends relationship with NVIDIA reached 757 comments after a few days. The thread NVIDIA debuts “Ada” GeForce RTX 40 series is already at 785 comments and the day has not even ended yet.

I guess the NVIDIA astroturfers are going to be extremely busy for weeks :ROFLMAO:
If you skim through the comments, you will see it's all team Red followers just trashing it. That site has gotten overrun by AMD fanboys.
 

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Its too bad they can't use the extra space they have for more Ray Tracing cores. Instead of giving GPU Shader Cores a boost, they decide to throw an extra 5k Ray Tracing cores in there. I am sure they are totally different so they could never do that but whatever.
These GPU's are used in Nvidia's workstation cards as well. Ray tracing cores are not the most useful thing in the professional world so Nvidia isn't going to dedicate a lot of die real estate for them.
 

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What is going to happen here is simple---scalpers will be buying up stock like they did with PS5s and making MSRP nearly impossible for a while. I lucked out on getting my 3090 very early because I happened to be in the area of a Micro Center when they announced a shipment coming in.

After that, they had QUEUES of people waiting outside on line for GPUs like the 6900xt and 3090.
 
Nvidias new launch…who cares about their cards? I reckon my 6700xt will hold for a while. Maybe if I just see a deal too good to pass up I’ll grab one of either series. But amd has been up and coming. With nvidia prices this also makes the new Intel gpu lineup look promising to help fill some of the mid range. It will probably take a generation or so but makes you root for Intel. More competition is good for consumers.
 
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The problem I have with this pricing is that it's the same model we've seen in other industries and consumers for some reason accept it. With the latter being the real problem. Nvidia is most certainly abusing their position in the market, and from what we've seen the last two generations AMD will be happy to join them.

I would love for consumers to just tell the entire industry nope, because it would only take one failed generation to bring pricing back to earth. Nvidia has huge enough margins they could cut costs, and simply won't because they don't need to.

I'll be riding my current card for the foreseeable future unless Intel does a price reset on the market when I go to build a new system.
I agree with you, the 4090 looks like a paving stone next to a brick compared to the 3090. I have no intention of upgrading my PSU for this kind of stuff, which means a single 8-pin is all there is.

I'm hoping Intel somehow pulls through with the ARC as well. The A750 and A770 are sleek nice looking GPUs. GN just pooped on the rumors of ARC being cancelled as well, turned out that was BS, so we may soon find out.
 
I agree with you, the 4090 looks like a paving stone next to a brick compared to the 3090. I have no intention of upgrading my PSU for this kind of stuff, which means a single 8-pin is all there is.

I'm hoping Intel somehow pulls through with the ARC as well. The A750 and A770 are sleek nice looking GPUs. GN just pooped on the rumors of ARC being cancelled as well, turned out that was BS, so we may soon find out.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-ceo-confirms-arc-a770-coming-to-retail-somewhere

Maybe they intend to launch in China first like before. Always been an amd guy but glad Intel is doing good stuff and that they are investing more in the USA as far as new fabs etc. Right now we are fortunate that supply is good and prices are lower. Consider if China tried to take over Taiwan tomorrow, not just the human impact, but many of the chips and semiconductors are made there. If I recall I think I’ve read somewhere in the neighborhood of 70% of their people would fight back. Consider if say half the engineers at the fabs were killed or if the fabs were destroyed or severely damaged. Supply could drop by a huge amount overnight. I digress but it makes me glad that Intel is starting to invest more at home.
 

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