News Nvidia, Apple, and others allegedly trained AI using 173,000 YouTube videos — professional creators frustrated by latest AI training scandal: Report

[Admin]

A dataset called "YouTube Subtitles" made of 173,536 YouTube video transcripts was used to train countless AI models since its publication in 2020. Professional creators are concerned while the AI companies, the creator of the dataset, and the largest distributor of it all deny culpability in breaking rules.

Nvidia, Apple, and others allegedly trained AI using 173,000 YouTube videos — professional creators frustrated by latest AI training scandal: Report : Read more

 

[abufrejoval]

This is an easy issue to fix: just boycott AI services for two years, don't pay extra for NPUs, just buy hardware as if it weren't there.

With that the bubble might burst fast and some degree of sanity and lawfulness can return.

Nothing like a bloody nose to teach a lesson...

 

[MobileJAD]

This is an easy issue to fix: just boycott AI services for two years, don't pay extra for NPUs, just buy hardware as if it weren't there.

With that the bubble might burst fast and some degree of sanity and lawfulness can return.

Nothing like a bloody nose to teach a lesson...

I personally have never cared or desired for a phone with a NPU, whenever I buy a phone, it just takes up space in the SoC's silicon, Android probably uses it for some secrative data harvesting purposes tho. I sure as hell aint planning on buying a desktop cpu with a NPU built in and absolutely will not buy one of those trash co-pilot laptops. I personally have yet to find any reason to get excited about AI, I mean I'm sure science and medical research can make use of it. Do I care about AI enhanced search results? Nope. Do I care about AI chat bots? Nope. I do find it ammusing how the industry is desperately pushing AI hard tho.

 

[derekullo]

This is an easy issue to fix: just boycott AI services for two years, don't pay extra for NPUs, just buy hardware as if it weren't there.

With that the bubble might burst fast and some degree of sanity and lawfulness can return.

Nothing like a bloody nose to teach a lesson...

Good luck getting Nvidia to remove AI from their chips. LOL

Even if you don't use it, you still paid for it.

 

[DS426]

Business.............ethics................
*Cue Bill Madison*
*ROFL*

Funny how us peasants are AI washed and concerns brushed right off as cynical and conspiracy theories. None of these folks can be trusted -- apparently our digital existence is and will probably forever be pure digital gold to the mega corps.

 

[MobileJAD]

Good luck getting Nvidia to remove AI from their chips. LOL

Even if you don't use it, you still paid for it.

Well at least with Nvidia there is a chance they will use the AI on their boards for something useful, like enhancing rendering quality, or for use with RTX, which I have still barely used. Either way the price for video cards is just ridiculous and as many have said, the chances are slim of video card prices going back to the "good old days", IE back when the GTX 1080 first launched or earlier. I got a 3rd party refurbished EVGA RTX 3080ti at a 'decent' pricethrough pure luck when I had the money, chances of me replacing that card with a newer GPU are Very low, probably wont happen for a few years at least.

 

[Sippincider]

Was wondering why Siri told me to be sure to subscribe to her channel...

(Seriously THAT didn't happen. But terms-of-service aside, not sure if YT is the reality we should want AI's learning from.)

 

[CmdrShepard]

If they used subtitles to train a model that does automatic video captioning I am fine with that because it is a noble use case which will benefit everyone (creators and users, especially those with disabilities).

However, if they used subtitles to train a model which then generates similar text in the style of those creators that's a clear copyright breach and should be sanctioned to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[thestryker]

They directly violated the TOS of a service they were using, but generally speaking there's nothing that can really be done. Especially when it comes to AI where the models have already likely been seeded and generated so barring their complete destruction it's a dead end.

They did use my favorite excuse though which is when I tend to hope everyone involved gets what's coming to them:

In the research paper about The Pile and YouTube Subtitles, EleutherAI acknowledges its violation of TOS but claims that the tools used to scrape YouTube data were already widespread enough that no additional harm was caused.

 

[renz496]

Well at least with Nvidia there is a chance they will use the AI on their boards for something useful, like enhancing rendering quality, or for use with RTX, which I have still barely used. Either way the price for video cards is just ridiculous and as many have said, the chances are slim of video card prices going back to the "good old days", IE back when the GTX 1080 first launched or earlier. I got a 3rd party refurbished EVGA RTX 3080ti at a 'decent' pricethrough pure luck when I had the money, chances of me replacing that card with a newer GPU are Very low, probably wont happen for a few years at least.

Slim chance? There is no chance at all. Unless those $18k 5nm price suddenly drop down to $4k haha.