Nvidia DSR with GTX 970

[Quentin Chalmers]

I am wondering if some people here could help me straighten out a couple things with DSR. I run a 1920x1080 21.5" 60hz monitor.

1. Does anyone have experience with Dota 2 being scaled with DSR to 4k? I literally cannot see a difference. Running it with 4k DSR also slows my mouse down quite a bit (the sensitivity increases).

2. Is there any way to avoid downscaling icons in games? Left 4 Dead 2 for example looks great with DSR but the UI and text is all tiny. Makes it really annoying to play.

3. If I decided to upgrade to a 24" 1080p monitor would that make any sort of difference with DSR? Would it become more noticeable on a larger screen?

I have been around the web and on other forums but there isn't much concrete information on DSR other than reviews. What is your opinion?

 

[renz496]

have you read this:

http://techreport.com/review/27102/maxwell-dynamic-super-resolution-explored

so to answer your question

1) so does higher resolution get unlocked for Dota 2 when you enabled DSR from nvidia control panel? about mouse slow down it also happen to me in my experience. increasing the mouse DPI should deal with the problem to certain extend

2) i'm afraid not. most of these game are not build with 4k in mind and some game don't even build for resolution larger than 1080p despite people has been using 1440p/1600p monitors for a few years already. that small text/hud problem is one of the problem for people with high res monitor for quite sometime now.

3) i don't think so.

btw you can join this thread:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2344781/nvidia-driver-brings-dsr-support-fermi-kepler-gpus.html

 

[Quentin Chalmers]

have you read this:

http://techreport.com/review/27102/maxwell-dynamic-super-resolution-explored

so to answer your question

1) so does higher resolution get unlocked for Dota 2 when you enabled DSR from nvidia control panel? about mouse slow down it also happen to me in my experience. increasing the mouse DPI should deal with the problem to certain extend

2) i'm afraid not. most of these game are not build with 4k in mind and some game don't even build for resolution larger than 1080p despite people has been using 1440p/1600p monitors for a few years already. that small text/hud problem is one of the problem for people with high res monitor for quite sometime now.

3) i don't think so.

btw you can join this thread:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2344781/nvidia-driver-brings-dsr-support-fermi-kepler-gpus.html

Yes, I have read that article, it has good stuff but I was wanting to know more about my specific problems like no noticeable improvement in Dota 2.

1. Yes. After enabling DSR factors in Nvidia Control Panel, I select 3840x2160 in Dota 2, only to not notice any sort of real difference. Except for the change in mouse sensitivity of course. Looks like I will avoid DSR with Dota 2.

2. This is a little disappointing 🙁 I was afraid this would be the case but couldn't find proof anywhere. I wish the icons in L4D2 wouldnt become so small...

3. In regards to what I said before, I was reading on some forums that the pixel density per inch can affect the sharpness and blurriness of in game textures. For example one user was claiming that running a game on a 21" 1080p monitor with 2560x1440 DSR was not nearly as noticeable an improvement when running the same DSR factor on a 27" 1080p monitor. They attributed this to the fact that pixels are more clearly visible on a larger monitor, so the DSR factor made more of a difference. Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks for pointing me to the other thread, just read through the whole thing. I find it interesting that a lot of people with older gpu's are able to use DSR without too much of a performance hit. Most of the games I play are already stressing my 970, so DSR isn't even an option unless I want to take off AA or screw with other settings.

 

[renz496]

3. In regards to what I said before, I was reading on some forums that the pixel density per inch can affect the sharpness and blurriness of in game textures. For example one user was claiming that running a game on a 21" 1080p monitor with 2560x1440 DSR was not nearly as noticeable an improvement when running the same DSR factor on a 27" 1080p monitor. They attributed this to the fact that pixels are more clearly visible on a larger monitor, so the DSR factor made more of a difference. Does this sound reasonable?

i can understand their reasoning so it might be possible. but between 21 inch and 24 inch is not much of a difference unlike 21 inch to 27 inch. and personally i would not take 27 inch monitor with 1080p res just so i can see better DSR effect on it. if only actual 4k monitors are cheap.... 😀.

 

[Quentin Chalmers]

3. In regards to what I said before, I was reading on some forums that the pixel density per inch can affect the sharpness and blurriness of in game textures. For example one user was claiming that running a game on a 21" 1080p monitor with 2560x1440 DSR was not nearly as noticeable an improvement when running the same DSR factor on a 27" 1080p monitor. They attributed this to the fact that pixels are more clearly visible on a larger monitor, so the DSR factor made more of a difference. Does this sound reasonable?

i can understand their reasoning so it might be possible. but between 21 inch and 24 inch is not much of a difference unlike 21 inch to 27 inch. and personally i would not take 27 inch monitor with 1080p res just so i can see better DSR effect on it. if only actual 4k monitors are cheap.... 😀.

Fair enough.

As much as I would like a 4k monitor, the gpu power to play games on it is just too much haha. I would much rather play at 1080p with decent framerates than at 4k with lower fps.

 

[cowboydude99]

Edit:
Removed comment- as I am unsure about this.

 

[Quentin Chalmers]

Edit:
Removed comment- as I am unsure about this.

I saw your comment, what exactly do you mean by select 4.0 DSR and then 1080p resolution?

 

[iamlegend]

So I will jump into this thread because I experienced it this week.
I also played in 1080p monitor and there is no improvement. The differences that I noticed was larger images and slow mouse.

 

[Quentin Chalmers]

So I will jump into this thread because I experienced it this week.
I also played in 1080p monitor and there is no improvement. The differences that I noticed was larger images and slow mouse.

Exactly why I don't think its worth it.

 

[renz496]

So I will jump into this thread because I experienced it this week.
I also played in 1080p monitor and there is no improvement. The differences that I noticed was larger images and slow mouse.

slow mouse? that only happen in RTS or where you can move mouse freely when the graphic is in static. but in FPS games it doesn't make any difference. i think that would be the same for high resolution monitor. in my case i just increase my mouse DPI to compensate the slow mouse movement. as for graphic quality it depends. DSR mostly dealing with aliasing. game like Alien Isolution where the jaggies are very visible DSR make large improvement in this area.

 

[iamlegend]

Yeah and DOTA 2 is not an FPS game.
I saw the latest Nvidia drivers which specifies Farcry4 and Assassin`s creed unity to be supported by DSR.

 

[renz496]

Yeah and DOTA 2 is not an FPS game.
I saw the latest Nvidia drivers which specifies Farcry4 and Assassin`s creed unity to be supported by DSR.

in most cases as long as the game can support higher resolution they will work with DSR. because that was DSR did. unlock the higher resolution and then scaled it back down to your monitor native resolution.

 

[iamlegend]

I have tried 4k in Battlefield 4. The graphics was intense but the FPS is just around 30. 🙁

Not so good of an experience.

 

[unklep]

i have the same problem with dota 2 also. i honestly didnt notice a difference when i turned dsr on so i just leave it off. and i would get tiny txt also. now im sure there is a setting in the .cfg file that could make the text bigger but there may be other problems that happen if you do that.

for a old game like L4D its probably better to turn all the AA and filtering up to max over using a dsr.

im in the market for a new screen also a 4k seems real nice but the price is high at the moment about 800. if i was going to do it i would get a second 970 in sli and a 27" gsync 4k monitor.

remember if you upgrade a monitor you own it for many years so you should spend a bit extra and get the right one.

 

[Quentin Chalmers]

i have the same problem with dota 2 also. i honestly didnt notice a difference when i turned dsr on so i just leave it off. and i would get tiny txt also. now im sure there is a setting in the .cfg file that could make the text bigger but there may be other problems that happen if you do that.

for a old game like L4D its probably better to turn all the AA and filtering up to max over using a dsr.

im in the market for a new screen also a 4k seems real nice but the price is high at the moment about 800. if i was going to do it i would get a second 970 in sli and a 27" gsync 4k monitor.

remember if you upgrade a monitor you own it for many years so you should spend a bit extra and get the right one.

Yeah I just got a new Asus 144hz 1080p monitor and I am totally happy with it. I don't have the money to even support 1440p at this point so il stick with one gtx 970.

 

[Rob Kilin]

I am wondering if some people here could help me straighten out a couple things with DSR. I run a 1920x1080 21.5" 60hz monitor.

1. Does anyone have experience with Dota 2 being scaled with DSR to 4k? I literally cannot see a difference. Running it with 4k DSR also slows my mouse down quite a bit (the sensitivity increases).

2. Is there any way to avoid downscaling icons in games? Left 4 Dead 2 for example looks great with DSR but the UI and text is all tiny. Makes it really annoying to play.

3. If I decided to upgrade to a 24" 1080p monitor would that make any sort of difference with DSR? Would it become more noticeable on a larger screen?

I have been around the web and on other forums but there isn't much concrete information on DSR other than reviews. What is your opinion?

Honestly I enabled 2x dsr and set my system resolution to that size then change the text and icon size in windows to whatever your comfortable with and everything including games and movies look amazing and not to small to see the only thing that didn't scale was min windows buttons and icons in the taskbar but Acu looks and preforms a lot better then when I had 1080 with txaa on which geforce thought was optimal but I found better