I guess the gtx 280 was about a 50% increase over the 8800 gtx ... but the only problem with the gtx 280 is it doesn't beat the 9800 gx2... Nvidia shot themselves in the foot... if they hadn't made the 9800 gx2... the gtx 200 series would be like OMG ITS SO MUCH BETTER... but since theres already a cheaper card that equals it and sometimes beats it... its like wtf?
its looking even more likely that this architecture they are claiming gets 1.5 - 2 times the performance is actually a new architecture... while the rumors that the chip that would come out after the 9800 gtx... was just another spin-off of the g80 core... well it looks to me like thats true... they really milked their g80 core to death lol
the gtx 280 is about 30 - 50 % faster than a 8800 gtx... look at benchmarks... as I said... the shot in the foot for nvidia was the 9800 gx2... if they hadn't had that... the gtx 280 would be viewed as all that
9800 gx2 was must because of 3870x2... You should not blame Nvidia for that
I am also sure, that there is more potential in 280, when compared to 8800gtx. It was just released, so it only have good driver support in few games and "most important" benchmarks.
1.5-2 times faster is a lot to promise, but Nvidia has done it before. 50% to 100% more speed is not so bad. The dx10.1 can offer 10to20% alone so it's really not too bad thing.
This is good news to all those 3870 ovners, who can in future see some dx10.1 support increase.
Bravo, in another 6-9 months nvidia will have managed to produce a 10.1 compliant card, like what a year and change after ATI? they jumped the gun on DX10 cards by a year....but hey, when you can force developers to disable 10.1 performance enhancing features for your "the way it was meant to be overpaid" games, why bother? after all the gripe AMD/ATI got with the 2900xt release, i'm just loving this.
The gtx 260 was a $400-450 card on release...the gtx 280 was what, $650-$700 and up? They release it 6 months late, but manage to snake their launch a few days ahead of the 4800 series. It's just beautiful.
The $200 4850 is comparable in area's to the gtx260...despite having 384mb ram less, and both using GDDR3. So the "nvidia will lay waste to ati when GDDR5 is more widely availble" defense doesn't fly. The fact that they could price their cards so high without at least gddr4 is obscene. The 4870 outdoes the gtx 260 in near every area, matches performance with the gtx 280 in numerous games, and out does it in several more...in high resolutions, with AA enabled no less. With half the RAM, at 1/2 the cost of the initial gtx280 price.
Without even having an official driver realese for the 4800 series yet. You can not deny just how little effort they've put in, and how badly they've been price gouging. AMD/ATI aims for the mid-range market, because all in all that's alot more sales then high end bracket, but end up competing with the flagship competition.
uhh.... assasins creed HAD DX10.1 but they pulled it out at the last minute because of everyone's favorite company Nvidia. Good game to them to lagging the industry with their influence, now DX10.1 on their part and GDDR5. -yawn- ATI's been at the DX10.1 for awhile now. -_- gg.
Those benchmarks of gtx 200 series of cards were done on beta drivers, i bought an evga gtx 280 after downloading the newest driver from nvidia my fps in every game almost doubled, i really noticed an increase in performance.