Nvidia GeForce GTX 465 1 GB Review: Zotac Puts Fermi On A Diet

[rohitbaran]

[citation][nom]youssef 2010[/nom]"GF100 is a 512-shader GPU, and the GeForce GTX 465 employs a version with 160 of those shaders turned off. We’re getting close to the point where we would have hoped to see a derivative GPU rather than a 3 billion transistor monster pared back, yet still expensive for Nvidia to manufacture. Perhaps that’s the impetus behind the $279 price tag.Regardless, though, if you belong to the group of enthusiasts who was spoiled by $200 Radeon HD 4890s and still remembers when GeForce GTX 260s sat around $150, the GeForce GTX 465 is an expensive piece of hardware, relatively. Until DirectX 11 becomes a must-have feature for you, the best of last generation is still very much viable for gaming versus today’s derivative models."couldn't have put it any better myself.Those last lines reallly strike the core of the delimma.But if you're building a brand new system,there's no reason to exclude one of these cards from the available options[/citation]
Well, you may try to seem to be impartial, your comments give yourself away.

 

[rrockman]

Weel, nobody ever considers one thing: Linux drivers. The ATI experience with Linux is a pain compared to the nVidia one. And with this card, the linux world is very well served: we don't need the incredible power of 480, still find the 470 expensive, so this hits a sweet spot.
I think I'd buy two of them the moment I find them at a lower price.

 

[Guest]

Great review, not a bad card but needs to be $100 cheaper to make any sense. If 5850 comes down in price like it should what will Nvidia have for an answer? I liked Nvidia cards in the past but they are just being murdered by ATI right now it;s pretty surprising, to me at least.

 

[exceeda88]

what happened to the great nvdia..??

 

[cutterjohn]

Still looks like the 470 is the "sweet" spot in the nVidia lineup.

ATI would be decent if they had better drivers. 10.5 was the first Catalyst to actually install properly for me, and reload the video driver instead of leaving me with a black screen and no way that I figured out to force it to restore the display short of rebooting, which I usually do anyways as a precautionary measure. And I still that some very specific situations in specific games give ATI drivers a hard time that I failed to notice with nVidia GPU + drivers. And, not it's not a hw problem specific to my ATI GPU as it can run GPU benchmarks all day long that pretty much run the GPU at 100% load with no problems. It was the first thing that I checked when first encountering the problems.

As to linux drivers, forget it catalyst is still awful and their OSS driver is still half-baked even for ancient GPUs. I feel sorry for the people with R6XX GPUs that are, pretty much, forced to run the OSS driver if they want a recent kernel + X.org... well at least if they want 3D and power management, as 2D and video are apparently better than catalyst.

nVidia hw is still superior to ATI in almost every way. ATI relies on minimal hw changes required to meet any new standards and otherwise goes with purely incremental design changes, just as AMD does with CPUs and you see where that's gotten AMD. OTOH nVidia actually seems to expend MUCH more effort in R&D, which usually pays off for them.

The only problem with nVidia ATM is pricing, which is likely, related to poor TSMC yields.

 

[falchard]

I think this test clearly shows 1 thing. The HD5870 2GB is the fastest single GPU solution on the market today.

 

[demonhorde665]

EPIC FAIL !!!!

what planet are the nvidia execs sitting on ???? i mean damn , it barely beats the 5830 more often performing like a 5770 yet it cost nearly 80 bucks more than the 5830 and about twice the price of a 5770.

Cuda , phyx, and BS "3d" tech is not worth that extra

i would ahve liked to see a 5770 in this bench just to get an idea of which card does better in dx 11 cos seriously i think my single 5770 puls better numbers on AvP than it did.


i got the feeling when they do get aroudn to releasing a mainstream version (120-160 price )of GF 400 it wont be worth crap.

 

[Mousemonkey]

lol....
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/30/how-nvidia-blacklists-sites-hardware-secrets
maybe im reading too much into this one article, but i swear every review ive read with the except of anand is biased towards nvidia, legitreviews and thw seem to follow these little criteria...

So a site that by their own admission were not getting any support from Nvidia are now not getting any support?

 

[hunter315]

Would have liked to see it running against a 5770 too just to see how much better it does than a 5770 when it loses to a 5830.

 

[extremebadass]

My nvidia Inno 3d gtx295 platinum overclocked beats the latest nvidia single gpu crap
Core clock @ 702,Shader @ 1615, Mem clk @1240 for 3d gaming

2/06/2010 5:15:11 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1920x1080, AA=4x, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 69.63s, Average FPS: 28.72
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 42.22 at frame 904
Average Tri/Sec: -6927438, Tri/Frame: -241179
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.80
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 56.81s, Average FPS: 35.21
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 43.42 at frame 877
Average Tri/Sec: -7997982, Tri/Frame: -227170
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.04
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 56.61s, Average FPS: 35.33
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 44.80 at frame 1006
Average Tri/Sec: -7965827, Tri/Frame: -225480
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.07
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

>--SUMMARY--

 

[extremebadass]

Sorry guys here are the results

2/06/2010 5:15:11 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1920x1080, AA=4x, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
==============================================================
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 69.63s, Average FPS: 28.72
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 42.22 at frame 904
Average Tri/Sec: -6927438, Tri/Frame: -241179
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -3.80
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 56.81s, Average FPS: 35.21
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 43.42 at frame 877
Average Tri/Sec: -7997982, Tri/Frame: -227170
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.04
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 56.61s, Average FPS: 35.33
Min FPS: 20.67 at frame 150, Max FPS: 44.80 at frame 1006
Average Tri/Sec: -7965827, Tri/Frame: -225480
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -4.07
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
==============================================================

Completed All Tests

>--SUMMARY--

 

[extremebadass]

Had to split it up sorry
Completed All Tests

>--SUMMARY--

 

[Thor]

Just a suggestion.
Since not everybody have money and so have last video card, it would be good to always put in all your benchmark an old video card.
Just for comparaison.

I have a "old" nVidia GeForce 9800 X2 and would like to compare it to last video card and last benchmark using last game like "Just Cause 2".

Thanks

 

[omnimodis78]

When can I expect a Fermi GPU in my PC that's affordable, and good? I hate that it seems that we're going back to the old days when anything good was $375+ Just keep in mind that ATI isn't a division of United Way - if they smell the opportunity to raise their prices, they will in a heart beat, and right now, why wouldn't they? Come on nVidia, drop the price and give us a worthy successor to the 8800 phenomenon!

 

[Dax corrin]

I think I'll be sticking with my GTX275 quite a while longer. DX11 still a non-starter for me.

 

[asteldian]

Wow, this card is the worst bit of junk yet for the Fermi series.
Actually, it is not that the card is crap, just that Nvidia continue to price themselves out the market with cards which do not justify the huge price tag. They had the 470 compete with the 5850 but charge almost 5870 price, now they have a card which competes with the 5830 (just about) and price it by the 5850.

 

[thillntn]

I just built a sli box to encode video on and to run folding@home etc. I like the CUDA stuff but can't decide on which one to go with.I have a radeon hd3650 for now until these mature and I can make up which will give the best power/watt.these from a price point look better then the 2 -480 cards (less heat and money for what i want to do)still kinda high

 

[flagoman]

this kind of video cards should come with their own ac adapter, buying a 800+ watts power supply is very annoying, and if its your first video card, youll have to unload the cost of both things.. why dont they think on this

 

[Mousemonkey]

this kind of video cards should come with their own ac adapter, buying a 800+ watts power supply is very annoying, and if its your first video card, youll have to unload the cost of both things.. why dont they think on this

Like this?

I think Nvidia did something similar with either a 6xxx or 7xxx but I'm not 100%.

 

[dur_trix]

I just cant help to think that nVidia is really failing.

PhysX, CUDA cores and the features list can go on for a whole paragraph.

Where as with ATi a HD58XX card you get, eyefinity, DX 11 capiblity. Thats about it and it still pawns! I'm not a fan boy but seriously nVidia has nothing to offer that makes anything worth while. I'll still stick to my HD5870 until the HD6XXX series comes.

Thanks ATI, no thanks nVidia