Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti Review: GK110, Fully Unlocked

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faster23rd

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My heart broke a little bit for AMD. Unless AMD's got something up their sleeve, it's up to the board manufacturers now to get the 290X in a better competitive stance than the 780 ti.
 

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At $700, AMD has nothing to worry about other than the minority of enthusiast who are willing to pay $200 more for the absolute fastest. Also, when games like Battlefield 4 uses mantle the performance gains will be eroded or wiped out.
 

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I want to see cooler as efficient as the 780 ti, on the 290X, and the benchmarks be run again. Something tells me 290X will perform similar or greater than 780ti, in that situation.
 

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Price vs way too few more fps than the rival will say a lot no matter who gets the crown, but can`t wonder to imagine the look on the face of the guys who got Titans for only few months of "fps supremacy" at insane price tags :)
 

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2x R9 290's for $100 more will destroy the 780Ti. I don't really see where this logically fits in a competitively priced environment. Nice card, silly price point.
 
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"Hawaii-based boards delivering frame rates separated by double-digit percentages, the real point is that this behavior is designed into the Radeon R9 290X. "

It could also come down to production variance between the chips. Seen in before in manufacturing and it's not pretty. Sounds like we're starting to hit the ceiling with these GPUs... Makes me wonder what architectural magic they'll come up with next.

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2x R9 290's for $100 more will destroy the 780Ti. I don't really see where this logically fits in a competitively priced environment. Nice card, silly price point.
 

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I'm going to build a rig for a friend and was planning on getting him the R9 290, but after the R9 290 review I'm quite hesitant. How can we know how the retail version of that card performs? Any chance you guys could pick one up and test it out? Furthermore, how can we know Nvidia isn't pulling the same trick: i.e. giving a press card that performs way above the retail version?
 

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Hoping to get a response this time. I am wondering if AA has any place in the ultraHD gaming world. I suspect that it gets cranked to 16x on ultra settings and I wonder if this actually is discernable witht he pixel density being so high. It is not like many people can spot a jagged edged curve when the "jag" is microns big.

If it has a negligible impact on what it looks like I am wondering how performance is with single cards on ultraHD screens WITHOUT ANTI-ALIASING. Please could you investigate? or point me to somewhere that has. Cheers all!
 

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EVGA already has the "SC" rated cards both with the default cooler and their ACX cooler.

Apples to apples it looks like the 780 ti will remain faster than the 290x even after we begin to see custom cooling AMD cards . . . but at a high premium.
 

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what i can't understand is how people can manage to stay loyal to the green team especially when they've been using monopolistic tendencies when it comes to pricing their cards... seriously, dropping a cards price point at the snap of a finger by hundreds of dollars, and they're still profiting like monsters i bet.

and yet, people will continue to eat up their products like mindless sheep. guess a lot of people have disposable income.
 

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sigh....it's too expensive compared to the 290x and the 290 for the performance.Slap a waterblock on the 290x and this card and overclock both of them to the limit and we will se which one is better.Still,i'm not gonna pay an extra $300 for this card over the 290x
 

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One thing is certain - 290X is completely irrelevant. Either get a lot cheaper 290 with the same performance or expensive 780Ti with better performance.
 

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This seems to be the bottom line... get the 780ti if you absolutely want the best and have money to burn (or wait a bit to see if they will indeed release the higher memory ones) and 290 for money vs performance.
 

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Excluding the possibility of bias, it's important to note the various performance results from one site to another. Tom's has the 780Ti winning the majority of benches while others have the 290x on top for the same applications. I believe this is representative of real world end user scenarios. Individual cards and total system variances IMO will result in the 780ti and 290x performing pretty much on par at higher resolutions. Therefore it really comes down to prices or preference but I don't know too many smart people who choose to waste $s ever even 1%'s. Win for AMD.
 

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Well, it is possible, but highly unlikely, given that Nvidia has a hard defined minimum clock rate, and a much narrower range...plus this is a reference board, it's fully possible that a retail card with a custom cooler will perform much higher (like the Gigabyte 780 in this article).

And, it's not an issue with the Titan or the 780, which are both based on GK110...which has been out for months, and has stable drivers.


What i can't understand is why this has to be a ****ing war.

When they had no competition, they charged a lot of money for their top end cards. No one was forced to buy these overpriced cards. If no one bought them, they'd drop prices. When AMD released solid competition, they dropped prices.

That's how the market works. If you think AMD wouldn't do the same, well, what can i say..

AMD haven't been in a position to do that for a long time on either the GPU or CPU front, which is why they haven't.

When they tried to release an $800 FX CPU (this is without a monopoly or lead in the market, btw), no one bought it, and AMD had to drop prices by more than half.
 

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It's pretty clear that AMD makes outstanding GPUs . . . Hawaii is probably as good as, if not better than, GK110 in absolute terms. The problem comes in executing the remainder of the card--trying to design on the cheap so they can undercut NVidia--and in their software.

It's sad; AMD could probably rule the roost if they could pull it all together at one time.

It would also help their CPU division is they had some means of creating a symbiosis between their CPUs and GPUs--of course that would probably drive off all of their Intel buyers :)
 

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I see everybody going crazy on the internet about 780Ti being the king of single chip card and everybody screaming about it, well.. from all those guys how many of you are willing to actually pay the price of a 780 TI ? Quite a few, then why the go crazy about it ? The R9-290 looks as the best bang for the buck right now. Stop going crazy about top tier cards, usually they are destroyed by lower tier SLI/CF configurations that costs about the same.

Never cared about Titan / 780 / 290X etc though the last one has a normal price range. Btw i own a Evga 760 AC and i wish i`ve took the 280X instead. Waiting for future Mantle Benchmarks and if it takes off, we will see probably another game changer there.
 

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I read 9 review sites. Noone has the 290X as better performer of or on par with GTX780ti and all agree with Tom's Hardware review.
Anandtech
Guru3D
Hardware Canucks
HardwareHeaven
PCPerspective
TechpowerUp
Bit-Tech
Vortez
Tom's Hardware
And when I am saying noone, I mean noone.... 780ti is a faster GPU and not by 1%. Most of the reviews go around 10% more than the jetloud uber mode.

edit: By the way Chris, is there any chance you would test R9 290 (non-X) retail too?
edit2: Great review as always :)
edit3: Any news on 780ti Black editions? (1ghz + 6 or 12GB VRAM)
 
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