News Nvidia Hosting GeForce Announcement on Sept 1, Likely Ampere, RTX 3080

Jimbojan

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Nvidia is front running Intel on Sept 1 vs Intel's Sept 2nd Tiger Lake CPU/GPU announcement. Not sure there is any advantage to do that, it is the product capability and value matters, not the propaganda influence the buying habit.
 

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Nvidia is front running Intel on Sept 1 vs Intel's Sept 2nd Tiger Lake CPU/GPU announcement. Not sure there is any advantage to do that, it is the product capability and value matters, not the propaganda influence the buying habit.
Based on the marketing behind it, it looks like Nvidia announcing the day before is a coincidence. They had that date in mind all along. One is announcing a mobile cpu, the other a highend desktop video. Not exactly competing products.
 
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I wonder if AMD will do anything to try and spoil it? Then again, what COULD AMD do to try and spoil it? We know RDNA2 cards aren't inbound until December, and Navi Refresh isn't going to be anything to write home about...
 
We know RDNA2 cards aren't inbound until December, and Navi Refresh isn't going to be anything to write home about...
Who ever said RDNA2 cards were not coming until December? AMD's Chief Financial Officer said a couple months back that "Big Navi" cards using RDNA2 would be out before the next-gen consoles launch, and at least the Series X has been confirmed for a November release. AMD's new cards will likely be announced not too long after Nvidia makes their announcement. Perhaps they want to see how Nvidia prices their cards first, so that they don't need to make last-minute adjustments as they did with the 5000 series.

As for Navi refresh cards, it really depends on how they are priced. I would not expect a refreshed 5700 XT to be anywhere close to $400, as that would most likely not compete with whatever Nvidia puts out in that price range. A sub-$300 price point would be more likely, with RDNA2 cards taking over at those higher levels.
 
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Who ever said RDNA2 cards were not coming until December? AMD's Chief Financial Officer said a couple months back that "Big Navi" cards using RDNA2 would be out before the next-gen consoles launch, and at least the Series X has been confirmed for a November release. AMD's new cards will likely be announced not too long after Nvidia makes their announcement. Perhaps they want to see how Nvidia prices their cards first, so that they don't need to make last-minute adjustments as they did with the 5000 series.

As for Navi refresh cards, it really depends on how they are priced. I would not expect a refreshed 5700 XT to be anywhere close to $400, as that would most likely not compete with whatever Nvidia puts out in that price range. A sub-$300 price point would be more likely, with RDNA2 cards taking over at those higher levels.

Which source says "retail availity in November 2020"? Everything I've seen says "launch", which could just mean a paper launch with retail availability in 2021, and given AMD's recent past history with "launching" with only a few hundred cards worldwide, I wouldn't expect anything until 2021. Also rumors suggest that the AIBs do not even have the GPUs in their labs yet, so only reference cards will be available in 2020. Although AMD claims to be abandoning the blower coolers on reference editions starting with RDNA2, I'm not sure how much stock I put in that statement, and the performance of dual/triple fan stock coolers will be questionable since even custom AIB versions of Navi cards, especially the lower end ones, have really horrid coolers Cough XFX Cough.
 
Which source says "retail availity in November 2020"? Everything I've seen says "launch", which could just mean a paper launch with retail availability in 2021, and given AMD's recent past history with "launching" with only a few hundred cards worldwide, I wouldn't expect anything until 2021. Also rumors suggest that the AIBs do not even have the GPUs in their labs yet, so only reference cards will be available in 2020. Although AMD claims to be abandoning the blower coolers on reference editions starting with RDNA2, I'm not sure how much stock I put in that statement, and the performance of dual/triple fan stock coolers will be questionable since even custom AIB versions of Navi cards, especially the lower end ones, have really horrid coolers Cough XFX Cough.
We can't say for absolute certain that RDNA2 cards will be available in October or November, but you also can't claim that "we know" they won't be out until December. There's no detailed information about their release schedule publicly available yet, aside from suggestions that imply high-end RDNA2 cards should be available sometime in the fourth quarter.

As for board partners not having access to RDNA2 GPUs yet, that wouldn't be surprising. It was some months before we saw alternate designs for the 5700 and 5700 XT, and they could potentially follow a similar release schedule here. That might not be a problem if the reference designs offer better cooling capability though, and it was confirmed back in March that AMD would be getting rid of the blower-style cooler this generation. It's likely that they have decided to be more competitive with their reference cooler design, and specifically stated that lukewarm response to the coolers on the initial Navi cards was the reason for changing things up.
 

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