News Nvidia may release the RTX 5080 and 5070 Super with boosted memory configurations according to leaker

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Besides the 5090, the 50 series is really just a refresh of the 40 series. The 5080 is really just the 4080Ti. The 5080Ti will basically be a nerfed 4090. The 5070Ti is just a nerfed 4080S. Anything 5070 is just the same 40 series card subtract 1 tier. 5070 = 4070Ti. 5060Ti = 4070, etc etc, back and back. The 50 series isn't truly next gen hardware. They still haven't removed multi-flame generation from the 5080/5090 yet. The 50 series is kind of NVidia Windows Vista moment. Just wait it out, keep your 40's and 30's for now. Let it pass, let it die, and wait until RTX 6000 series comes.
 
endocine said:
Adding more VRAM is certainly nice, but its lipstick on a pig with the 50X0 series. Go to new node, fix the power problems, and fix the bugs in the drivers
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A "Super" refresh seems like it could fix a lot of the problems the RTX 5000 lineup has so far experienced. Won't do anything for power consumption or much (if anything) on pricing, but it could be what the doctor ordered, for some of the other woes that have arisen since launch.

TheyStoppedit said:
Besides the 5090, the 50 series is really just a refresh of the 40 series.
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I wouldn't exclude the 5090 from that list. They're all a lot more similar to the Ada than the usual generation, however they all do have new silicon.

TheyStoppedit said:
Just wait it out, keep your 40's and 30's for now.
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Depending on what happens with pricing, perhaps the Supers will be a good time for someone on a RTX 3000 or older to jump in.
 
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Notton said:
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Also why call it the 5080 Super when the Ti doesn't exist?
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bit_user said:
I think the distinction is that Ti and non-Ti models exist concurrently, while Super models tend to replace the non-supers. So, Ti is more like inserting another tier in the product stack, while Super is like a refresh.
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Correct, Ti differentiates product tiers whereas Super is a refresh of an existing product. Super can and has been tagged on with Ti products as well, like the 4070 Ti Super.

This isn't new, either -- there wasn't a 4080 Ti, was there? That said, there's a perfect slot for a 5080 Ti with a 384-bit mem bus when the 5080 has a 256-bit one and the 5090 has a 512-bit one.

Digressing, of course nVidia is working on the Super refreshes, and they can do this alongside development of the next generation as well, i.e. [assumption in naming] 60-series. Even though these aren't all-new GPU's, it takes time to design new(ish) products (much of which lies on the AIB partners), so I'm still one to assume that the 50-series Supers wouldn't come until the holiday shopping season at the end of this year.
 
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Given the bad supply, bad drivers, scalper price and all those heat/power issues, I wonder if they can get they hype train up... even if they have MSRP of $400 they likely won't do, as once it's released it will be $1400+
 
A 5080 with 24 GB of VRAM has my attention. That could be a viable upgrade from the 3090. The price and performance matter though. The 3090 is meeting all my needs at the moment without that melting power connector or PhysX problems of the newer GPUs.
 
DS426 said:
That said, there's a perfect slot for a 5080 Ti with a 384-bit mem bus when the 5080 has a 256-bit one and the 5090 has a 512-bit one.
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In order for this to be viable, they'd probably need to reach a point where supply of GB102 dies exceeds demand, since the only way you're getting a 384-bit data bus on a RTX 5000 is by taking the die of the RTX 5090 and disabling 128 bits of it. Either that, or if they have yield problems with GB102's and build up enough inventory of dies they can't sell as RTX 5090's.

I think it's worth pointing out that (AFAIK), they never sold RTX 4080 with GA102 dies, which suggests that yields on the "4N" node were quite good.
 
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YSCCC said:
Given the bad supply, bad drivers, scalper price and all those heat/power issues, I wonder if they can get they hype train up... even if they have MSRP of $400 they likely won't do, as once it's released it will be $1400+
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Well, the RTX 4080 Super was cheaper than the non-Super. So, it's possible prices will stay constant or even drop. Depending on what happens with the economy this year, I can certainly imagine reaching a point where they're no longer supply-constrained.
 
TheyStoppedit said:
Besides the 5090, the 50 series is really just a refresh of the 40 series. The 5080 is really just the 4080Ti. The 5080Ti will basically be a nerfed 4090. The 5070Ti is just a nerfed 4080S. Anything 5070 is just the same 40 series card subtract 1 tier. 5070 = 4070Ti. 5060Ti = 4070, etc etc, back and back. The 50 series isn't truly next gen hardware. They still haven't removed multi-flame generation from the 5080/5090 yet. The 50 series is kind of NVidia Windows Vista moment. Just wait it out, keep your 40's and 30's for now. Let it pass, let it die, and wait until RTX 6000 series comes.
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And you will have to wait till the RTX 7000 series to get the RTX 6000 series at MSRP.
 
bit_user said:
Well, the RTX 4080 Super was cheaper than the non-Super. So, it's possible prices will stay constant or even drop. Depending on what happens with the economy this year, I can certainly imagine reaching a point where they're no longer supply-constrained.
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Finger crossed for that, but still, hopes arn't high though, scalpers likely will kept the sweet taste and try to jack up whatever GPU on release and with even 9070 costs a lot over MSRP... maybe next year after the scalpers finally lost some arms and legs
 
endocine said:
Adding more VRAM is certainly nice, but its lipstick on a pig with the 50X0 series. Go to new node, fix the power problems, and fix the bugs in the drivers
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This is correct, but it's the only game in town (aside from RDNA4) until then. We may be looking at mid-2026 for "Rubin" or whatever they'll call it on a new node, which will deliver good gains.

I'm looking forward to all the companies having access to these GDDR7 modules at the same time. AMD's RDNA5/UDNA, Nvidia's Rubin, and even Intel's Celestial could end up using 3 GB GDDR7 modules at launch, rather than months later as a refresh.
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What are the odds we get a 48gb 5090? I was hoping for a 48gb card with 512bit buss.
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Should be zero. They already raised the bar with 32 GB, and are reserving the higher amounts for workstation cards. Most notably the 96 GB card with double the memory chips, all of them being 3 GB.
 
jtcmedia said:
And you will have to wait till the RTX 7000 series to get the RTX 6000 series at MSRP.
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Not necessarily even then. They're being rather aggressive about cutting off supply of old-gen cards in the lead up to new launches. Supply of many RTX 4000 models got scarce, in advance of the 5000 launch. As a result, prices on the old cards went up, and then they had sold out by the time the 5000-series replacements launched (which were also in short supply, leaving motivated buyers no option but to pay scalper pricing).
 
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