Nvidia Quadro's: K2000 vs K2200 and K4000 vs K4200

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Hi there, I just want to know that what's the difference between K2000 vs K2200 and K4000 vs K4200?.

I need to know how they perform in 3d modeling and rendering on softwares like 3ds Max, Maya, Zbrush, Blender etc.
 
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Nashnuts,

In general, the recently released new line of Quadro Kx200 workstation cards have more memory, substantially more CUDA cores, and lower power consumption. Scroll down the following list and you can compare the basic specifications:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

And, there are already some good comparative reviews:

http://www.develop3d.com/reviews/Nvidia_Quadro_Maxwell_Kepler_CAD_Creo_Solidworks_CAE_iray_review

My impression from the two or three reviews I've read is that the...
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Nashnuts,

In general, the recently released new line of Quadro Kx200 workstation cards have more memory, substantially more CUDA cores, and lower power consumption. Scroll down the following list and you can compare the basic specifications:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

And, there are already some good comparative reviews:

http://www.develop3d.com/reviews/Nvidia_Quadro_Maxwell_Kepler_CAD_Creo_Solidworks_CAE_iray_review

My impression from the two or three reviews I've read is that the performance of each card in the line becomes comparable to the model above it in the previous line. These cards are designed specifically for the kind of applications you mention- Autodesk and Adobe applications are CUDA accelerated and all the tests/ reviews will cite programs such as 3ds Max, Maya, often Solidworks, and etc. So, it seems that K2200 performance approaches a K4000, a K4200 may approach the K5000 level, and the K5200 is probably faster than a Quadro 6000 -not than a K6000 though.

I was never a big fan of the K2000 (2GB), but the K2200 (4GB) at something around $450 appears to be a very good value. I saw a review in which some artificial benchmarks of the K2200 surpassed the K4000. The K4200 at about $900 appears to be so good at it's work- the same memory bandwidth as a K5000 but with 1344 CUDA cores instead of 1536 and 108W instead of 122W, that the price of used K5000's will have to drop to $600 or so to make them worthwhile to buy. If your budget extends to it, and you're doing complex 3D modeling and animation in 3ds Max / Maya, I think a K4200 would be a very good purchase, useful for a long time. The lower power consumption also means that the single height cards will run a bit cooler. I'm using a Quadro 4000 (2GB) now and during rendering I once saw a temperature of 105C. I was planning to buy a used K5000 when the price approached $800, but in the new line, even a K2200 might work for me, though I would still tend towards a K4200.

The new line of Quadros is very welcome, and you may be aware that in a few weeks- end of September, 2014, there is a new line of Xeon E5- "v3" (LGA2011-3) processors- a lot more 8 and 10 cores and up to 18 Cores, and using DDR4 2133 RAM.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3923, 2D= 839 / 3D=2048]

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I will use near about 1080p or 2K resolution of rendering, and I want that if I create a model in high Poly the viewport will not stuck or drops any frames. I want a smooth viewport movement and a fast quality rendering in Animation. and I want to use smooth Live Rendering also.

actually I want to build a PC in couple of days.

Here is my Config.

CPU: intel i7 4790K.
MOBO: Asus Z97 Pro (Wi-Fi ac).
RAM: 16 G.B. (8x2) Corsair Vengence, 1866 Mhz, 1.5v. ( will add 16 G.B. more in near future).
PSU: Corsair RM 750W.
SSD: Samsung EVO 250 G.B.
CASE: Corsair Vengence C70
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110
GPU: Not Confirmed Yet


Please guide me, if there is any problem with this config.

Thanks.

 
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NashNuts,

Your proposed system has many good features, although I am not in general in favor of overclocking (the "K" in 4970K) on a workstation, especially where long rendering slogs might occur.

If you're not in dire, immediate need, you might like first to review the new LGA2011-3 CPU's that will be available in a few (3-5?) weeks. Like the new Quadro's, the new i7's and Xeon E5 "v3" will have similar names but improved specifications- add cores, 2133 RAM support and in general have greater bandwidth. the new X99 chipset also supports the M.2 Ultra SATA controller- 10GB/s instead of 6- I think. For your applications, it will be beneficial and realistic to consider new 8-core i7 and 8 and 10-core Xeons. Scroll down to the Xeon E5 section (No. 8) of this preliminary list of the new E5 v3's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors

In any event, if a Xeon E5 is not enticing, it would be more forward looking to use an 8-core (=50% more threads for serious rendering) i7-5960X or 6-core i7-5930X with an X99 board:

http://www.guruht.com/2014/06/core-i7-5960x-core-i7-5930x-and-core-i7.html

Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E 8-Core 3.0GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor BX80648I75960X > $1,050

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117404

I've been looking for a reasonably priced 8-core single Xeon for a long time and it appears that the new E5-1660 v3- may be just the thing.

So many nice new toys to play with- sorry- get to work with!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 
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Simple answer:
Cuda cores has less to do with it than the custom stable drivers developed for maya and 3D max etc by Nvidia. If you want the best and most reliable get a Quadro but if money's tight and you can handle lots of crashes and instability in return for more brute force then get a game card. There are many reasons people in the VFX buisness use quadro cards and not gamer cards but drivers are the main one. ( Basically nvidia dumb down there drivers for game cards to make money off the Quadro cards but that's just the way it is, for now).

P.s. the HP Zx40 series are out soon so wait a few weeks or better yet build yer own x99. Also get a PCIe SSD for payback! I've been using them since 2009 (OCZ Z drives etc) and never an issue.
 
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