News Nvidia Reportedly Prepping RTX 4070 Ti: Rebadged RTX 4080 12GB Makes a Comeback

[Admin]

Nvidia is reportedly preparing the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti for launch, a full AD104 implementation that carries the legacy of the "unlaunched" RTX 4080 12GB. How will it stack up to the other upcoming graphics cards?

Nvidia Reportedly Prepping RTX 4070 Ti: Rebadged RTX 4080 12GB Makes a Comeback : Read more

 

[hannibal]

Well.. As I expected 4070ti...
But lets see, but it makes most sense. Faster than normal cut down 4070... And a price that actually is less than $1000. It will sell like hotcakes at $899 😉
O mores o tempora...


... Maybe triple the amount of AMD 7900XTX and 7900XT together? With 20% to 30% less speed! Marketing is wonderous thing!

 

[spentshells]

I feel like greed is finally going to cause an exodus to other brands... not many, but some share of the market is heading out the window... evga knows something we do not.

 

[Phaaze88]

'Potentially logical' move, my butt. It was all according to keikaku.
[Note: Keikaku means plan.]

Just one of many times a company tries something very scummy to see how The People react, apologize(in falsetto), and back down to something slightly less scummy with enough people being 'ok' with it.
Either way, the company wins and the customer loses.

I feel like greed is finally going to cause an exodus to other brands... not many, but some share of the market is heading out the window...

Fewer folks taking interest in the PC or DIYPC space?
Fewer folks buying top end gpus due to being priced out, compared to several years ago?
Lower tech site traffic? Folks needing help troubleshooting their fancy new hardware, but not getting replies or waiting a day or more before getting any, due to dwindling interest/fewer people experienced with the same hardware available to provide assistance? [I mainly bounce around between Tom's, TPU, and overclock.net, and the traffic is not what it used to be several years ago.]

 

[artk2219]

Nvidia is reportedly preparing the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti for launch, a full AD104 implementation that carries the legacy of the "unlaunched" RTX 4080 12GB. How will it stack up to the other upcoming graphics cards?

Nvidia Reportedly Prepping RTX 4070 Ti: Rebadged RTX 4080 12GB Makes a Comeback : Read more

4070 ti is a bit generous, maybe 4060 ti, it seems like theyre leaving a huge performance gulf between the 4070's and 4080 now. Eh, I guess its on par with how they treated the 3000 series, still we'll see how they stack up the AMD's RX 7000 series.

 

[spentshells]

'Potentially logical' move, my butt. It was all according to keikaku.
[Note: Keikaku means plan.]

Just one of many times a company tries something very scummy to see how The People react, apologize(in falsetto), and back down to something slightly less scummy with enough people being 'ok' with it.
Either way, the company wins and the customer loses.


Fewer folks taking interest in the PC or DIYPC space?
Fewer folks buying top end gpus due to being priced out, compared to several years ago?
Lower tech site traffic? Folks needing help troubleshooting their fancy new hardware, but not getting replies or waiting a day or more before getting any, due to dwindling interest/fewer people experienced with the same hardware available to provide assistance? [I mainly bounce around between Tom's, TPU, and overclock.net, and the traffic is not what it used to be several years ago.]

I was going for brand loyalty.
Some are gonna move to amd on the high end is what I was inferring.

At this point I really figured with all the consoles running amd at this time I'm surprised they haven't gained more than they have... personally I blame bitcoin/ethereum

 

[artk2219]

'Potentially logical' move, my butt. It was all according to keikaku.
[Note: Keikaku means plan.]

Just one of many times a company tries something very scummy to see how The People react, apologize(in falsetto), and back down to something slightly less scummy with enough people being 'ok' with it.
Either way, the company wins and the customer loses.


Fewer folks taking interest in the PC or DIYPC space?
Fewer folks buying top end gpus due to being priced out, compared to several years ago?
Lower tech site traffic? Folks needing help troubleshooting their fancy new hardware, but not getting replies or waiting a day or more before getting any, due to dwindling interest/fewer people experienced with the same hardware available to provide assistance? [I mainly bounce around between Tom's, TPU, and overclock.net, and the traffic is not what it used to be several years ago.]

I agree, a lot of this content has definitely moved to youtube, so less people are reading compared to in the past is a part of it. I mean Gamersnexus is basically all youtube at this point, they still maintain a site but it doesn't have anywhere near the print content it used to, and the stuff thats on there is basically the video script. Guru3d still maintains a site but Hilberts readership is also super down, I'm sure the statistics would definitely be interesting to look at over the past few years

 

[spentshells]

I agree, a lot of this content has definitely moved to youtube, so less people are reading compared to in the past is a part of it. I mean Gamersnexus is basically all youtube at this point, they still maintain a site but it doesn't have anywhere near the print content it used to, and the stuff thats on their is basically the video script. Guru3d still maintains a site but Hilberts readership is also super down, I'm sure the statistics would definitely be interesting to look at over the past few years

gaming jesus as they say..... most of these folks are too snarky and well opinionated. math doesnt run on opinion

 

[Phaaze88]

I was going for brand loyalty.
Some are gonna move to amd on the high end is what I was infering.

Gotcha. Sucks that brand loyalty is still a thing.
As for moving to AMD, yeah, some will do that, others are waiting in the hopes it gets them more affordable Geforce gpus - which is rather twisted; refuse to go anywhere near a Radeon, but relies on it for the chance to get lower prices on that TUF 4080(or whatever) they were eyeing...

 

[cknobman]

The only thing Nvidia is doing would be trying to figure out how to screw its customers as much as possible.

 

[thisisaname]

Well.. As I expected 4070ti...
But lets see, but it makes most sense. Faster than normal cut down 4070... And a price that actually is less than $1000. It will sell like hotcakes at $899 😉
O mores o tempora...


... Maybe triple the amount of AMD 7900XTX and 7900XT together? With 20% to 30% less speed! Marketing is wonderous thing!

That price is far to much of a faction of of the 4090's price and the 4090 is priced far to high.
It ad less than half the cores (16384/7680) with half the memory 24GB/12GB)with on half the memory bus (384/192).

Quoting from https://www.tomshardware.com/news/4080-12GB-benchmarks-confirm-nvidias-cancellation

But the 4080 12GB's performance in 3DMark says it all. According to the Chiphell post, the RTX 4080 12GB tested managed a GPU score of just 13,472 points in 3DMark Fire Strike Ultra and 10,794 points in TimeSpy Extreme.

For comparison, these numbers translate into equal to slightly better performance than an RTX 3080 12GB in the exact same benchmarks, according to 3DMark's benchmark browser. It's worth noting that the 30 series GPUs in the browser's results were manually overclocked, but still, that means the RTX 4080 12GB sits right in between a stock RTX 3080 12GB and RTX 3080 Ti.

The 4080 12GB was about half of the performance of a 4090 and the price should also be less than half of it too. About 40% of it may be about right considering the premium you pay at the top end.

 

[10tacle]

When Nvidia formally announced its GeForce RTX 4080 12GB this September, it was a rather odd graphics card from the start. The board carried Nvidia's AD104 in its full configuration, featuring 7680 CUDA cores and a 192-bit memory interface.

That's right. Nvidia's 3070 Ti and 1070 Ti both had a 256-bit memory bus (there was no 2070 Ti but the 2070 also was 256-bit). Going back in time, the GTX 970, 770, and 670 were also all 256-bit. And the 570 and 470 both were actually 320-bit. What the hell were they thinking at Nvidia?

 

[hannibal]

That's right. Nvidia's 3070 Ti and 1070 Ti both had a 256-bit memory bus (there was no 2070 Ti but the 2070 also was 256-bit). Going back in time, the GTX 970, 770, and 670 were also all 256-bit. And the 570 and 470 both were actually 320-bit. What the hell were they thinking at Nvidia?

They are milking, and they are milking very well!
I am sure that Nvidia still will outsell AMD and that makes no sense, but they still will do it. And selling cheaper made GPU at higher price = profit! to the company. Why not do it, when people still continue buy in spite of high prices?

 

[sundragon]

I find EVGA's exit from the GPU market makes a lot more sense in light of how poor Nvidia has been handling the launch/pricing for the 4xxxx series... Wait till AMD launches their competition that's priced less than $1k. If it's as competitive price/performance/energy use then Nvidia's prices are gonna drop.