Question NVIDIA RTX 3080 VS NVIDIA RTX 3070TI

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Everyone knows NVIDIA RTX 3080 is not available in the market, we do not know if NVIDIA RTX 3080 would again be released in the market as NVIDIA RTX 3080TI is there. Is NVIDIA RTX 3070 TI a better option if NVIDIA 3080 does not continue in the market
 

jasonf2

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No matter how you look at it even the 3080 is a stronger card than the 3070ti. The 3080ti takes that point and really puts it home cranking out near 3090 performance. So depending on what your opinion of a better option is performance wise the 3080 ti is a better card, price wise the 3070ti is. Really though when I look at the 3080ti my question isn't really if I roll back to the 3070ti but if I am going to splurge a little more and get a 3090 with all of that RAM. All of this assumes availability at MSRP, which hasn't happened in a long time.
 
No matter how you look at it even the 3080 is a stronger card than the 3070ti. The 3080ti takes that point and really puts it home cranking out near 3090 performance. So depending on what your opinion of a better option is performance wise the 3080 ti is a better card, price wise the 3070ti is. Really though when I look at the 3080ti my question isn't really if I roll back to the 3070ti but if I am going to splurge a little more and get a 3090 with all of that RAM. All of this assumes availability at MSRP, which hasn't happened in a long time.
I do agree but as someone running a 3080 for 1440p 144Hz and 4K 120Hz gaming I look at the reviews and think I probably wouldn’t notice the small uplift the 3080Ti/3090 or the small decline from a 3070Ti. Generally I think you need a >20% in performance for it to be really noticeable from one gpu to the next.

My main hesitation would be the 8gb of the 3070Ti. I do wonder how well the 10gb of my 3080 will hold up for 4K, no problem now but not sure about the next 1-2 years.
 

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3080 undoubtly. 2 gigs more of vram. There are already games out there that maxed out consume more than 8 gb, and if you spend more than 1k eu/dollars for a card, i don't think you don't wanna compromise in a year on graphic' settings..
 

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I do agree but as someone running a 3080 for 1440p 144Hz and 4K 120Hz gaming I look at the reviews and think I probably wouldn’t notice the small uplift the 3080Ti/3090 or the small decline from a 3070Ti. Generally I think you need a >20% in performance for it to be really noticeable from one gpu to the next.

My main hesitation would be the 8gb of the 3070Ti. I do wonder how well the 10gb of my 3080 will hold up for 4K, no problem now but not sure about the next 1-2 years.
Unless someone is just absolutely bent on best of the best I rarely if ever suggest a current same generation ti upgrade if you are ok with the performance you are getting out of your current card. The reasons you bought your card at (or your budget) more than likely haven't changed and honestly unless you are some pro gamer running at insane fps with inhuman reaction times the change in FPS between base and TI rarely justify replacement. I know everyone wants to future proof and for that more RAM is obviously better but no matter what in two years the engine APIs will have moved on anyway. If we aren't looking at Direct X 13 we are at least looking at 12.x+ incremental for the latest and greatest which will remove your 3000 series card from best fidelity at ultra settings regardless of horsepower under the hood. My 1080ti is a good example. Still keeps up well enough by teraflops, but no ray tracing or the RTX core component improvements. Anyone wanting future proof is just justifying the money they want to spend on their toys with an unattainable goal.
 
The RTX 3070 Ti is more like a RTX 3070 Super than a Ti model. The Ti is usually a lot faster than the normal model. But had Nvidia made the RTX 3070 Ti much faster it would have been very near to the RTX 3080 and Nvidia clearly didn't want that. It reminds me of when the RTX 2080 Super came out and it was only slightly faster than the RTX 2080. Actually this is almost exactly the same type of case. Just with much faster RAM. The RTX 2080 Super was still nowhere near the RTX 2080 ti and the RTX 3070 ti is nowhere near the RTX 3080. Though the name and the pricing suggests otherwise. You'd think it'd sit right between the RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 but it doesn't. It's way closer to the RTX 3070 than you'd think. The cuda core difference between the RTX 3070 ti and RTX 3080 is 35% while that difference from the RTX 3070 to the RTX 3070 ti is only about 4%. Obviously they wanted to use GA104 for this graphics card so they maxed it out and tried to boost it as far as possible with faster RAM. What does it equate to vs the RTX 3070 and RTX 3080? The RTX 3070 ti is only 7% faster than the RTX 3070 on average at 4K. At 1440p and lower it's nearer to a less than 5% difference which is negligible. And it's still nearer to 20% slower than the RTX 3080. Here are some more thoughts. Does the RTX 3070 Ti need over 600GB/s of memory bandwidth or is it more a marketing move? I'd say no. It doesn't need that much. I'd say 512GB/s would be a sweet spot with this level of card. Just my opinion.
 

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