News Nvidia RTX 4070 with slower GDDR6 memory is on the way, according to rumors

[Admin]

Nvidia is preparing a new variant of the GeForce RTX 470 graphics card, according to a reputable leaker. Earlier today it was leaked that an RTX 4070, designated as the PG141 SKU347, will come packing GDDR6 memory instead of GDDR6X.

Nvidia RTX 4070 with slower GDDR6 memory is on the way, according to rumors : Read more

 

[FunSurfer]

The card that I want is a 200W RTX 5070 with 16GB GDDR7, but not much chance of that...

 

[Notton]

GDDR6 at 20Gbps is pretty fast

but what happened to GDDR6 24Gbps? I thought Samsung was sampling it in 2021. Does it not exist?

 

[vanadiel007]

The card that I want is a 200W RTX 5070 with 16GB GDDR7, but not much chance of that...

Why do you want that card? Is your current card not sufficient anymore?

 

[kyzarvs]

Just swapped out my 1080ti for a 7900XT. I don't care about ray tracing, it's stonkingly rapid, much cheaper (about £150 cheaper than 4070ti super which is a bit slower @1440p ultra and £400 cheaper than a 4080) than the equivalent nVidia in rasterisation and very quiet. Happy days!

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

So just buy a 4070 Super. Better yet, don't.

 

[-Fran-]

Ok, nVidia. If you bring this to the market, make it cheaper than the 4060ti and we'll talk. Otherwise, you can keep it.

Regards.

 

[ingtar33]

Ok, nVidia. If you bring this to the market, make it cheaper than the 4060ti and we'll talk. Otherwise, you can keep it.

Regards.

it won't be. it will be like -25 or -50 from the 4070.

 

[OneMoreUser]

I wonder what the new slower card will be named.
Somehow I doubt it will get a name that tells people what they are actually buying, so likely it will not get a different name than the original one and it for sure won't be named "4070 Slow" or "4070 End of Life".

 

[Eximo]

4070 Gradually Reduced Edition.

 

[artk2219]

I wonder what the new slower card will be named.
Somehow I doubt it will get a name that tells people what they are actually buying, so likely it will not get a different name than the original one and it for sure won't be named "4070 Slow" or "4070 End of Life".

It'll be called the RTX 4070 with absolutely nothing differentiating it from the previous model. Like the RTX 3060 8gb and 12gb, or RTX 3050 6gb or 8gb. AMD isn't innocent of this either, they just haven't done it in a little while (I'm looking to you RX 580 2048 -_-). Although realistically there should be very little performance impact from this change. Which is wildly different from the situation with the RTX 3050 6GB vs 8GB, thats around a 30% performance delta between the two, and either 33% more RAM or 25% less RAM depending on how you want to look at it. The RX 580 2048, was around a 10% performance difference.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-6-gb/31.html

 

[Neilbob]

4070 Gradually Reduced Edition.

And it could be shortened to 4070 GRE. That's an original acronym. Oh, wait...

 

[Avro Arrow]

This is a non-story because the difference in performance between GDDR6 and GDDR6X is less than 3% (which is margin of error). There is a slight improvement in power efficiency but since VRAM doesn't use much to begin with, it's nothing that anyone would notice.

There's a Tom's article that chronicles the comparison of an RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6 and an RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X done by ITHardware out of Poland. Apparently the difference was greatest at 1080p at 4% but the difference was only 2% at 1440p and 2160p. I've seen greater variances between Powercolor Red Devils and Sapphire Pulse models, differences that would be imperceptible when gaming.

Here's the article:

Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti Gets Few Benefits from GDDR6X, Says Reviewer​

 

[FunSurfer]

The card that I want is a 200W RTX 5070 with 16GB GDDR7, but not much chance of that...

Why do you want that card? Is your current card not sufficient anymore?

There is no 200W card from nvidia with 16GB of VRAM. Games are starting to use the whole VRAM pool of the PS5, up to 14GB. Even on 1080p. My card is 200W, but with only 8GB VRAM, so obviously not sufficient anymore for 1080p.

 

[vanadiel007]

There is no 200W card from nvidia with 16GB of VRAM. Games are starting to use the whole VRAM pool of the PS5, up to 14GB. Even on 1080p. My card is 200W, but with only 8GB VRAM, so obviously not sufficient anymore for 1080p.

If memory is a concern, take a look at this article.

 

[Eximo]

There is no 200W card from nvidia with 16GB of VRAM. Games are starting to use the whole VRAM pool of the PS5, up to 14GB. Even on 1080p. My card is 200W, but with only 8GB VRAM, so obviously not sufficient anymore for 1080p.

4060 Ti 16G, 160W. It was in all the news about how bad of a deal it is, but it does exist.

 

[vijosef]

It will be called the 4070 Duper

 

[thisisaname]

Could be called the 4070 My, what the My stands for a leave to the reader

 

[Joseph_138]

Nvidia muddies the GPU waters even further. 🙄

 

[Joseph_138]

4060 Ti 16G, 160W. It was in all the news about how bad of a deal it is, but it does exist.

The problem with the 4060 Ti with 16gb is that if you come anywhere close to fully utilizing the 16gb, the core can't run at an acceptable framerate. The memory on that card is for streamers, and other content creators, who need the RAM, but for whom a 4080 or 4090 would be overkill, not gamers. That was why they made it a silent launch. Not even heavyweight reviewers like LTT or Gamers Nexus could get one prior to launch. Hardware Unboxed had to buy one for review after they were released. For games, you would still be better off with a 4070 with 4gb less memory.

 

[Amdlova]

I have a 4060TI with 16gb some games can use it... But I will sell the card when launch the new ones.
I will use IT for one year and will not lost money

 

[KyaraM]

This is a non-story because the difference in performance between GDDR6 and GDDR6X is less than 3% (which is margin of error). There is a slight improvement in power efficiency but since VRAM doesn't use much to begin with, it's nothing that anyone would notice.

There's a Tom's article that chronicles the comparison of an RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6 and an RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X done by ITHardware out of Poland. Apparently the difference was greatest at 1080p at 4% but the difference was only 2% at 1440p and 2160p. I've seen greater variances between Powercolor Red Devils and Sapphire Pulse models, differences that would be imperceptible when gaming.

Here's the article:

Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti Gets Few Benefits from GDDR6X, Says Reviewer​

But it's easier to get outraged over nothing than to actually do some research!

Frankly speaking, kinda expected it ever since the article about temporary shortage of GDDR6X memory went up here. I honestly don't get the fake outrage over it.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...-4070-through-rtx-4090.3850671/#post-23309791
This was the alternative to price hikes, so holy hell, people, what do you even want?
And as mentioned in the quoted post, the performance difference is imperceptibly small in similar cases like the 3060. There really shouldn't be any big impact as you make it out.

 

[FunSurfer]

4060 Ti 16G, 160W. It was in all the news about how bad of a deal it is, but it does exist.

16GB on 128 bit bus, no thanks, and on benchmarks avg fps 1 less than 8GB version (1080p).

 

[FunSurfer]

If memory is a concern, take a look at this article.

AMD cards, plenty of VRAM but not enough ray tracing power to use it.

 

[d0x360]

Ok, nVidia. If you bring this to the market, make it cheaper than the 4060ti and we'll talk. Otherwise, you can keep it.

Regards.

I was all prepared to make some snide comment towards nVidia about this but decided not to and just kept reading comments until I hit this one and the reason why is the same for both but obviously for different reasons...

For the 4080 and lower I doubt memory bandwidth (using slower gddr6x, not DDR like that 10 series card nVidia ) will make any difference at the resolutions a 4070 or below is designed to play at. At that point the core makes more of a difference therefore to ease supply issues and get hardware out to people... Acceptable. PLUS you can probably overclock mem by +800 to 1000 np. We are talking 1% here