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aberkae said:
The turning point. Today is the first day that my Microcenter has 8 x5090s in stock
https://www.microcenter.com/search/...artial&Ntk=all&sortby=match&N=0&myStore=false

Obviously at the inflated prices. FYI

Update Ebay has a handful cheaper 5090s than Microcenter. Let that sink in!
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No 5090 cards at my local (Denver) MC, but there are others:

Nvidia:
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB @ $479 — 11.6% over MSRP
RTX 5070 @ $604 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5070 Ti @ 824 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5080 @ $1199 — 20% over MSRP

AMD:
RX 9070 @ $679 — 23.6% over MSRP
RX 9070 XT @ $799 — 33.3% over MSRP

If we're going by official (fake?) MSRPs, Nvidia is much closer than AMD at hitting the target prices. Even the 5080 has less of a markup than the 9070, though obviously it's in a significantly higher price bracket. Based on my performance testing, factoring in DLSS, I'd say the RX 9070 needs to cost the same as the RTX 5070, and the RX 9070 XT needs to cost about 15% less than the RTX 5070 Ti.
 
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shady28 said:
So much for AMDs supposedly high volume of 9070 / 9070 XTs.
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You have to look at the larger picture.
AMD was coming off of a 10% gaming dGPU market share in 2024.
If they allocated, for example, 80% of what they had in 2024 into the 9070/XT, it would still be less than 10% of what nvidia did.

And since nvidia has fumbled quite badly in 2025, now you have an extreme over-demand compared to supply.
I don't have numbers, so my wild guess is: AMD would have to increase production by 500% to meet the demand they have for 9070/XT. I doubt they have that much capacity allocated at TSMC.
 
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Notton said:
You have to look at the larger picture.
AMD was coming off of a 10% gaming dGPU market share in 2024.
If they allocated, for example, 80% of what they had in 2024 into the 9070/XT, it would still be less than 10% of what nvidia did.

And since nvidia has fumbled quite badly in 2025, now you have an extreme over-demand compared to supply.
I don't have numbers, so my wild guess is: AMD would have to increase production by 500% to meet the demand they have for 9070/XT. I doubt they have that much capacity allocated at TSMC.
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This is another excuse even if the data is correct.
Tech tubers and journalists were swearing up and down there was virtually no NVIDIA stock.
That would increase the advantage of Radeon exponentially. Do sales or demand reflect that? No.
People are still waiting on NVIDIA prices to stabilize and maybe now wait for a Super refresh.
I may have bought a 9070xt if it was $500. But it wasn't.
AMD went for the money again. They lose out again.
 
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ManDaddio said:
This is another excuse even if the data is correct.
Tech tubers and journalists were swearing up and down there was virtually no NVIDIA stock.
That would increase the advantage of Radeon exponentially. Do sales or demand reflect that? No.
People are still waiting on NVIDIA prices to stabilize and maybe now wait for a Super refresh.
I may have bought a 9070xt if it was $500. But it wasn't.
AMD went for the money again. They lose out again.
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okay, but riddle me this

AMD doesn't make a reference model 90 series and doesn't sell any cards under the AMD brand.
All 9070/XT cards are made by AIBs.
Are you saying AMD is secretly charging AIBs $50~100 extra per chip?
 
aberkae said:
The turning point. Today is the first day that my Microcenter has 8 x5090s in stock
https://www.microcenter.com/search/...artial&Ntk=all&sortby=match&N=0&myStore=false

Obviously at the inflated prices. FYI

Update Ebay has a handful cheaper 5090s than Microcenter. Let that sink in!
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Don't forget to check the ASUS eStore. They regularly stock both the latest cards at MSRP. Although keep in mind that just like EVGA, specialty cards carry a higher premium. Currently the ASUS TUF OC edition RTX 5080 is in stock for $1599, up from $1484.99 which was the price I paid at Amazon.
 
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Notton said:
AMD doesn't make a reference model 90 series and doesn't sell any cards under the AMD brand.
All 9070/XT cards are made by AIBs.
Are you saying AMD is secretly charging AIBs $50~100 extra per chip?
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Whatever AMD charges the AIBs isn't based on MSRP most likely. Or at best, loosely based on MSRP. So if AMD charges $200, and then the AIB needs VRAM, PCB, cooling, etc. then the bill of materials (BOM) ends up being maybe $350~$400. To sell such a part at retail for $550 or even $600 is not going to work out well. Basically, retail MSRP is usually about double the BOM.

So, for the 9070 to sell for $550, it needs a $275 BOM. What's the real BOM? I don't know, and the same for the 9070 XT. It needs a $300 or less BOM. And remember that R&D (for the AIBs) also factors into the retail prices.
 
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Heat_Fan89 said:
Don't forget to check the ASUS eStore. They regularly stock both the latest cards at MSRP. Although keep in mind that just like EVGA, specialty cards carry a higher premium. Currently the ASUS TUF OC edition RTX 5080 is in stock for $1599, up from $1484.99 which was the price I paid at Amazon.
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I check there regularly and signed up for all the notifications the nano second they were available to the public and my inbox still yields crickets for the 5090.
 
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JarredWaltonGPU said:
No 5090 cards at my local (Denver) MC, but there are others:

Nvidia:
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB @ $479 — 11.6% over MSRP
RTX 5070 @ $604 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5070 Ti @ 824 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5080 @ $1199 — 20% over MSRP

AMD:
RX 9070 @ $679 — 23.6% over MSRP
RX 9070 XT @ $799 — 33.3% over MSRP

If we're going by official (fake?) MSRPs, Nvidia is much closer than AMD at hitting the target prices. Even the 5080 has less of a markup than the 9070, though obviously it's in a significantly higher price bracket. Based on my performance testing, factoring in DLSS, I'd say the RX 9070 needs to cost the same as the RTX 5070, and the RX 9070 XT needs to cost about 15% less than the RTX 5070 Ti.
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Right now, the cheapest 5090 available in Greece, is Gigabyte's Windforce OC, and costs as much as $3,311.

Whoever places an order, will have gotten it by the 11th of June.

Cheers! 🤣
 
aberkae said:
I check there regularly and signed up for all the notifications the nano second they were available to the public and my inbox still yields crickets for the 5090.
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It's going to be months before you see a 5090 on their website. Those are in short supply everywhere with high demand. The 5080 TUF OC is regularly in stock and it's there right now. If you need a 5090, you'll need to wait for that. My guess is the first 5090 that shows up is going to be the ultra expensive watercooled 5090.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
It's going to be months before you see a 5090 on their website. Those are in short supply everywhere with high demand. The 5080 TUF OC is regularly in stock and it's there right now. If you need a 5090, you'll need to wait for that. My guess is the first 5090 that shows up is going to be the ultra expensive watercooled 5090.
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True. Currently Europe seems to have more stock that is available although above MSRP as well. Hopefully this is a foreshadowing of things to come and price start to come down with availability as well get closer and closer to the Black Friday ( fingers crossed we see some available models at MSRP by then if not sooner).
 
aberkae said:
True. Currently Europe seems to have more stock that is available although above MSRP as well. Hopefully this is a foreshadowing of things to come and price start to come down with availability as well get closer and closer to the Black Friday ( fingers crossed we see some available models at MSRP by then if not sooner).
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Keep in mind that specialty cards have generally carried a higher price tag. EVGA stands out with that model where a reference GPU was at Nvidia's MSRP and their FTW overclocked variants where a few hundred higher. ASUS seems to be in the specialty AIB market. Most of their cards have a higher MSRP.

If Microsoft raising the prices of their hardware, accessories and videogames is any indication. Higher pricing could be the new norm. Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus did a video on "the death of affordable computing".

I purchased my ASUS TUF OC RTX 5080 for $1485 from Amazon. That was ASUS MSRP. Today that MSRP has jumped to $1599. Just keep that in the back of your mind.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
Keep in mind that specialty cards have generally carried a higher price tag. EVGA stands out with that model where a reference GPU was at Nvidia's MSRP and their FTW overclocked variants where a few hundred higher. ASUS seems to be in the specialty AIB market. Most of their cards have a higher MSRP.

If Microsoft raising the prices of their hardware, accessories and videogames is any indication. Higher pricing could be the new norm. Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus did a video on "the death of affordable computing".

I purchased my ASUS TUF OC RTX 5080 for $1485 from Amazon. That was ASUS MSRP. Today that MSRP has jumped to $1599. Just keep that in the back of your mind.
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I've seen instances where the 5090 Astral liquid cooled can't oc past 2.9 ghz and a TUF flavor clocks past 3.1 ghz. That's a 10% variance. There is no guarantee that the $3800 5090 Astral lc will perform have better silicon lottery draw than the cheaper air cooled ones. I currently RMA a Strix I itx x670e motherboard with Asus where returned the product to me claiming it past all the tests meanwhile Microcenter couldn't get it to boot no matter the cpu/ram kits they used. Just because Asus chargers a high significant premium to perceive quality doesn't mean you actually get quality products or service in my experience!
 
But I thought it was legit impossible to get your hands on an Nvidia GPU because they arent sending them out to normal folk, while AMD can't print enough of their stuff.

Seriously starting to think steam is not showing gamers, but workstations lol (not that steam's survey is anywhere near as all encompassing as most love to act like it is. I remeber loads asking how to even find the survey, while I turn the thing down the few times it poped up)
 
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Welp, 9070XT and Steam user here, but mine won't show up because I haven't been prompted for the survey.
ManDaddio said:
This is another excuse even if the data is correct.
Tech tubers and journalists were swearing up and down there was virtually no NVIDIA stock.
That would increase the advantage of Radeon exponentially. Do sales or demand reflect that? No.
People are still waiting on NVIDIA prices to stabilize and maybe now wait for a Super refresh.
I may have bought a 9070xt if it was $500. But it wasn't.
AMD went for the money again. They lose out again.
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If you're basing that assumption on the Steam Survey, I wouldn't. What is more, Radeon 90 series has been a tremendous sales success, there is plenty of evidence to support this. Now, is AMD suddenly going to catch up to Nvidia? Of course not, probably not ever. But as for your exponential increase for AMD... that would only possible if they could meet demand with production, and they can't. But every board they do make is flying off the shelves.
 
Notton said:
You have to look at the larger picture.
AMD was coming off of a 10% gaming dGPU market share in 2024.
If they allocated, for example, 80% of what they had in 2024 into the 9070/XT, it would still be less than 10% of what nvidia did.

And since nvidia has fumbled quite badly in 2025, now you have an extreme over-demand compared to supply.
I don't have numbers, so my wild guess is: AMD would have to increase production by 500% to meet the demand they have for 9070/XT. I doubt they have that much capacity allocated at TSMC.
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It's a lot simpler than the mental gymnastics you're performing here.

AMD said they would have plenty of supply, unprecedented levels from the past.

Today, the 9070 and 9070XT are mostly unavailable. The few places you can find one, the prices are inflated by 50% or more.

So, if they had sold an unprecedent amount of release GPUs, that would mean there would be a lot in use, correct?

So that would show on the Steam survey, right?

Well this survey answers that. No, they never had major supplies and never had a decent follow on to initial supply. They only have two models, and *neither* of them rated on Steam. I believe to rate, they need to have > 0.1%, which means neither model had more than 1/4 the supply of 5070s.

AMD has once again shown that they are masters of hype, and much of the tech influencers just follow along because that's what gets them clicks.
 
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shady28 said:
It's a lot simpler than the mental gymnastics you're performing here.

AMD said they would have plenty of supply, unprecedented levels from the past.

Today, the 9070 and 9070XT are mostly unavailable. The few places you can find one, the prices are inflated by 50% or more.

So, if they had sold an unprecedent amount of release GPUs, that would mean there would be a lot in use, correct?

So that would show on the Steam survey, right?

Well this survey answers that. No, they never had major supplies and never had a decent follow on to initial supply. They only have two models, and *neither* of them rated on Steam. I believe to rate, they need to have > 0.1%, which means neither model had more than 1/4 the supply of 5070s.

AMD has once again shown that they are masters of hype, and much of the tech influencers just follow along because that's what gets them clicks.
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AMD DID stockpile GPUs and they WERE more available than Nvidia - those are facts.

The John Peddie GPU report for Q1 '25 may tell us much more - I'm guessing it'll be available soon. Until then, we don't have numbers, only speculation.

The Steam Survey is dubious. I don't know the algorithm for their survey push notifications. I personally have not received one since I upgraded. And for those that have been prompted for a survey,... how many actually take it? I have chosen to skip it many times in the past.

No matter what, AMD is still going to have a tiny percentage of the overall market, no one can argue otherwise. But it's odd to me why people on this thread are trying to argue that the 9070s didn't sell well... that simply isn't true and there's no tangible evidence to back that up. Again, we don't have hard numbers, but all the anecdotal evidence out there suggests the opposite.
 
shady28 said:
If that were true, then at least one of their two models would show up on Steam rather than Nvidia's 5070 , 5070 Ti, *and* 5080.

Neither of AMD cards show up.

Your statement is ridiculous on the face of it.
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sorry but you taking the steam survey as the be all tell all definitive way to tell what cards people use in their systems, is just as bad.

i have used steam for years, and i have NEVER been asked to do the survey. i also know people, who dont even use steam.
 
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shady28 said:
If that were true, then at least one of their two models would show up on Steam rather than Nvidia's 5070 , 5070 Ti, *and* 5080.

Neither of AMD cards show up.

Your statement is ridiculous on the face of it.
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I don't know if you were GPU shopping during this whole nonsense, but I was. When the 9070s were released, it felt like there were ten of them available for every one 5080. I was checking stock in multiple places on a daily basis. This was just as evident even in second-hand markets like Ebay and Jawa.
AMD delayed their launch by two months. Again, FACT. How many additional cards were made available initially as a result? Who knows? What I DO know is that I could get my hands on a 9070XT, I could not get my hands on a 5080. As for the 5070, it seemed like it was just as plentiful as the 9070s, which is to say, not much, but better than the 5080/5090s.

Just because AMD cards were initially more available does not mean that they manufactured more cards than Nvidia. And it doesn't mean that people switched over to AMD in droves. I'm sure many did, myself included. But even when the AMD cards start showing up on the survey, Nvidia will still command a hugely disproportionate amount of the market.

People in here looking at the stupid Steam survey and acting like AMD only sold 5 cards or something LOL. That's what's ridiculous.
 
That seems like a weird result. I got the survey a few days after installing my 9070XT. Maybe they don't include a card if the market share is below a certain value.
 
JarredWaltonGPU said:
No 5090 cards at my local (Denver) MC, but there are others:

Nvidia:
RTX 5060 Ti 16GB @ $479 — 11.6% over MSRP
RTX 5070 @ $604 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5070 Ti @ 824 — 10% over MSRP
RTX 5080 @ $1199 — 20% over MSRP

AMD:
RX 9070 @ $679 — 23.6% over MSRP
RX 9070 XT @ $799 — 33.3% over MSRP

If we're going by official (fake?) MSRPs, Nvidia is much closer than AMD at hitting the target prices. Even the 5080 has less of a markup than the 9070, though obviously it's in a significantly higher price bracket. Based on my performance testing, factoring in DLSS, I'd say the RX 9070 needs to cost the same as the RTX 5070, and the RX 9070 XT needs to cost about 15% less than the RTX 5070 Ti.
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For Germany:
All cards are currently available, and prices are looking really good for the most part across the board, except the absolute top.
RTX 5090: 2698.99€ (MSRP: 2229€)
RTX 5080: 1138.99€ (MSRP: 1119€)
RTX 5070Ti: 836.99€ (MSRP: 879€)
RTX 5070: 584.90€ (MSRP: 649€)
RTX 5060Ti 16GB: 419.00€ (MSRP: 450€)

AMD:
RX 9070XT: 749.00€ (MSRP: 689€)
RX 9070: 659.00€ (MSRP: 629€)

So, Nvidia is currently below MSRP on anything 5070Ti and under, basically at MSRP for the 5080 plus/minus a few bucks, and only the 5090 is really significantly over. AMD is over the MSRP on both their cards. I think Nvidia especially is sending more stock to Europe currently, due to tariffs, but looks like AMD is following suit, too. Them being above MSRP here implies that their stock is lower overall, though.

Edit: Oh, and all German prices including sales tax, of course.
 
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