News Nvidia says it shipped twice as many 50-series GPUs as 40-Series at launch, but it's a misleading comparison

[Admin]

In advance of next week's GTC and GDC trade shows, Nvidia discussed Blackwell availability, where it specifically stated that it has shipped twice as many Blackwell GPUs in the first five weeks as it did Ada GPUs for the first five weeks in 2022 — but that's effectively comparing only the RTX 4090 against four RTX 50-series GPUs launched this year.

Nvidia says it shipped twice as many 50-series GPUs as 40-Series at launch, but it's a misleading comparison : Read more

 

[baranlai]

Nvidia giving misleading information again? *pretends to be shocked*

 

[magbarn]

There’s lies, damn lies, and then there’s Nvidia.

 

[Jabberwocky79]

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"

@magbarn you just beat me to it LOL

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

So, Nvidia are claiming they only shipped (checks notes...) three 4090's in October 2022? 🙃

 

[TheyStoppedit]

Nvidia giving misleading information again? *pretends to be shocked*

You beat me to it.... and probably everyone else.... Lol. The moment I read the headline, I knew right away something wasn't right. This company has made an olympic sport out of lying/deception/misleading. Its like.... you cant believe anything they say anymore. The easiest way to tell when NVidia marketing team is lying: is when their lips are moving. Good grief.

 

[-Fran-]

Just leaving the obligatory "yeah, same reaction as the rest" post.

I guess it's pathologic at this point for nVidia to do this? Maybe they need counceling? Some time off at a pet farm to enjoy themselves?

Regards.

 

[Bikki]

The 50 series is clearly a scam. Jensen put a huge bet on neural rendering. At this point 80% r&d have been relocated for tensor cores in b200 while the shader (rasterization) is sinking fast. But ai rendering is not here yet, and the result? a lack luster gaming gpu generation with sacred quantity and abysmal price tag to match (2000usd for 5090). The real loser in this bet of course is the poor and thirsty gamer.

 

[Pierce2623]

A 5070 is $750 but 3 months ago a 4070 with the SAME DAMN PERFORMANCE was $500 all day long. Nvidia and AMD both purposely dried the market out to create these conditions.

 

[jlake3]

Nvidia can cherry-pick the statistics all they want, but I don’t think that slide is going to make anyone standing in front of an empty shelf of $940 RTX 5070TIs feel more fondly towards them.

We can see with our own eyes that the launch was bad and general sentiment towards the 50-series is bad.

 

[Jabberwocky79]

A 5070 is $750 but 3 months ago a 4070 with the SAME DAMN PERFORMANCE was $500 all day long. Nvidia and AMD both purposely dried the market out to create these conditions.

Agree 100% on Nvidia deliberately drying out the market. I'm not so sure about AMD. I'm not an AMD fanboy by any means, but I don't recall having any trouble getting AMD cards until Nvidia's supply started drying up. Once that happened, prices and availability went haywire across the board.

 

[magbarn]

Agree 100% on Nvidia deliberately drying out the market. I'm not so sure about AMD. I'm not an AMD fanboy by any means, but I don't recall having any trouble getting AMD cards until Nvidia's supply started drying up. Once that happened, prices and availability went haywire across the board.

Before the Blackwell "launch", AMD was only supplying 10% of the retail GPU market. With Nvidia diverting the majority of their fab allocations to Ai, AMD can't quickly decide to supply over 50% of the market. Given that multiple retailers have said that there were more 9070/XTs at launch day than all the Blackwells received since release combined, tells the story.

 

[Jabberwocky79]

^^ Exactly.

 

[aberkae]

Wake me up when 5000 series comes up on the steam survey like the 4090 did.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

So the 40 series only shipped 10 cards total worldwide?

 

[Jabberwocky79]

^^ That's what I'm getting from this data. 😏

 

[salgado18]

Nvidia is just feeding die-hard fanboys with official info, so they can convice the less-tech-savvy that they are still the best and everyone is buying. They are actually scared of RDNA4, knowing their cards will be underwelming and the competition actually did catch up. Super editions may launch earlier than expected 😉

 

[Jabberwocky79]

Nvidia is just feeding die-hard fanboys with official info, so they can convice the less-tech-savvy that they are still the best and everyone is buying. They are actually scared of RDNA4, knowing their cards will be underwelming and the competition actually did catch up. Super editions may launch earlier than expected 😉

I never think of these slide presentations as being for fanboys. More for investors.
I would love the Supers to be release early, because the regular versions were underwhelming. But let's be honest, they should probably make more than, say, 1000 total cards first before moving on to the next versions LOL.

 

[Energy96]

The 50 series is clearly a scam. Jensen put a huge bet on neural rendering. At this point 80% r&d have been relocated for tensor cores in b200 while the shader (rasterization) is sinking fast. But ai rendering is not here yet, and the result? a lack luster gaming gpu generation with sacred quantity and abysmal price tag to match (2000usd for 5090). The real loser in this bet of course is the poor and thirsty gamer.

They aren’t putting a huge bet on it. These chips are purely designed for data center and AI use at this point. They are trying any way they can to make them work in other applications and at this point I think gaming is last on their minds. The only reason we have them is they need a place to sell the less than ideal yield silicon. At some point if the AI and data center craze continues they probably need to design different chips for gaming but I’m not sure they really care about that market at this point. At least not enough to specifically design chips for the best gaming experience.

 

[Jabberwocky79]

They aren’t putting a huge bet on it. These chips are purely designed for data center and AI use at this point. They are trying any way they can to make them work in other applications and at this point I think gaming is last on their minds. The only reason we have them is they need a place to sell the less than ideal yield silicone. At some point if the AI and data center craze continues they probably need to design different chips for gaming but I’m not sure they really care about that market at this point. At least not enough to specifically design chips for the best gaming experience.

Agreed. The gaming market will always exist, but I think Nvidia is teetering on the brink of pulling out of it. This is a prime moment for AMD and Intel to seize some momentum. That will take time, and in the meanwhile, I can foresee a "dark ages" of sorts for game / graphics development. But if Nvidia continues to head in the same direction, it's only a matter of time before someone sees the opportunity and takes their place.

 

[thestryker]

On the last HUB podcast they talked about card availability and how they spoke to retailers. Steve mentioned more than one told him that if they sold out of their stock of 9070/XT they will have sold more AMD video cards than all 50 series combined. That certainly reinforces the perception of how bad nvidia availability has been.

 

[BILL1957]

As an older long term gamer that has used Nvidia GPU's for decades and has a fairly extensive library of older well revered classic games I like to revisit the announcement that Nvidia had dropped the 32 bit PhysX support on the 50 series cards which affected the special graphical features of a fair number of these still top ranked older classic games greatly reducing the performance and the graphical effects of this Nvidia "exclusive feature" that was used as a selling point for consumers to choose Nvidia is making me think twice before continuing to have faith in any Nvidia exclusive features going forward.

Nvidia touted the "way the game was meant to be played" I guess until for them it was not any longer.
This to me is the biggest reason to not continue to support Nvidia as they can take away a feature set a lot quicker than it takes to implement it regardless of how it may affect their consumers.

 

[JTWrenn]

It's misleading...but also relevant right? Yes they launch the 4080 later, but that can also be described as launching the 5080 earlier...ie shipping more product and getting more done all at once.

So it is misleading but also true...which melts my brain a bit. I guess what that slide really proves is that it wasn't a paper launch. They didn't launch the 5080 early with no stock, they basically did what they did with the 4000 series but faster/all at once.

So, yeah it's fluff, and a bit disingenuous but I wouldn't call that one a flat out lie.

edit: I just don't get why they don't fight scalpers. Do they really think the product won't sell out? Seems like a giant missed opportunity to get cards into the hands of people and hurt AMD. You don't get more money from selling to scalpers if you will sell out anyway. Only 3rd parties make more.

 

[valthuer]

I guess it's pathologic at this point for nVidia to do this? Maybe they need counceling? Some time off at a pet farm to enjoy themselves?

Regards.

Remember that absolute market carnage they endured, due to DeepSeek?

You know; losing a staggering $589 billion in value, in a single day?

They need more of those, to get themselves straight.

 

[Shiznizzle]

Before the Blackwell "launch", AMD was only supplying 10% of the retail GPU market. With Nvidia diverting the majority of their fab allocations to Ai, AMD can't quickly decide to supply over 50% of the market. Given that multiple retailers have said that there were more 9070/XTs at launch day than all the Blackwells received since release combined, tells the story.

Not at nearly 1000 pounds a card that only beats a last gen nvidia card. Turn on RT in the 9070 and you will see that for that price, it is better getting an Nvidia card. Missing ROPs version can be returned. Drivers will get better. Cant do much about the local firestarter editions and their wires but i would not and cannot afford a 5090 anyway.

194, 5090's sold for 4.500 dollars on fleabay since release. The GPU market will never be the same and i am seriously now considering goign back to consoles to play games. They have mouse and keyboard support. For emails i can use my raspberry pi which will also show me netflix with no issues.

1000 pounds for a mid range GPU? Have they lost their mind? Seriously.