News Nvidia Silently Optimizes GeForce RTX 2070, 2060 Mobile GPUs for Performance

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Sounds like a performance boost due to feeding the GPU with more power in the case of the RTX 2060. 115W power requirement is going to be a problem for cooling in a laptop.

Anyway, I suspect this sudden "free" performance from Nvidia is due to AMD's RDNA GPUs coming into the mobile space.
 

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Yeah, that tends to be how things work. Feed it more power and you get more performance - except in the case of AMD - since AMD has ultra binned ever single little slice of silicon, and offers it's pre over clocked. Along with that extra power comes extra heat - that is why it has a setting in BIOS to allow you to keep the 80W TDP or the 135W.

Nvidia is is no way shape or form concerned about whatever marketing term AMD is using to describe whatever warmed over ancient design they are selling this week. It just isn't an issue. AMD has about as much chance taking over the discrete GPU for laptops as it does becoming the top tier full size GPU vendor. "Big Massive Totally New and Shiny Look! Squirrel Navi" is vaporware and likely to remain as such - they will undoubtedly release something with better perf - but no where near where the AMD Kiddies think it it be.

Thing about AMD is they get things flipped - You under promise and over deliver - not over promise and under deliver - which is the history of the Ryzen line Because by now AMD should have 80% market share and Intel begging for scraps - yet that hasn't happened. Ryzen 1 (1x00 series) had the most impact, the subsequent 2 small iterative updates - not so much. Even though AMD is hitting record revenues (for AMD) it is still really nothing and R&D requires something in excess of nothing. Jim Keller's legacy at AMD (creator of Ryzen) is already in the market - they have nothing left to draw from. The changes between 1st gen Ryzen and most current in the market Ryzen is really not much at all. I know all the armchair lithography and CPU fabrication experts will say but but but "7nm"... turns out not that big of a deal. Not making money is why they spun off Global Foundries - and why they sold Ryzen designs to the Chinese - to keep the lights on while Ryzen was prepped to take over the world... a swing and a miss. I mean if Intel was in 1/10th the amount of trouble the AMD Kiddies think - then it should have been EZ Mode to fill in that gap - yet - no gap filled.

Having a CPU with no integrated graphics (even rudimentary) with a bunch of superfluous cores (reason why Intel was at 4 cores for desktop - that's what the market wanted) is why OEMs are not selling alot of AMD systems - having to add a graphics card (another line item in the BoM) but the added load on the Support and IT depts was part of the consideration for alot of companies to stick with Intel - install the chipset drivers and you are good to go.

The new 4x00 series APUs are great... Vast majority of businesses want basic Desktops - something to run Word, Excel, Outlook and Chrome. Don't need 8 cores and Vega graphics (still takes a sep driver)to do that.

So no Nvidia isn't worried, Intel is not worried - The one indispensable service AMD provides to both Nvidia and Intel is to shut down ppl wanting to say they are a monopoly in their respective fields. Kinda like how a Morty is a shield for a Rick. Advanced Morty Defenses.
 

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#Deicidium369 I own a pc with intel and Nvidia Hardware in it, and after reading this, I just couldn’t let such an incredible misinforming post left unanswered.
Ryzen and Rome has been a massive success which is reflected in AMD’s stock skyrocketing over the year, so it would seem that there are people who disagrees with your claim, so much that they are willing to bet dollars against your claim. So when you use phrases such as “Ryzen overpromised and underdelivered” along with “AMD kiddies” One can tell that you are a moron... and a Intel kiddie. I could go into further details ripping the rest of your so called “facts” apart, but judging by your post, I will only be feeding a troll.
It amazes me with retarded comments such as these, that there are people out there who willingly wants to be a fanboy of any company, so they ignore the facts and start wommitting crap on forums and websites such as we see above.
Get a brain, stop getting emotionally attached to a company like intel, try start being able to think objectively. And you will find your self not expressing words and sentenses that makes other readers IQ fall after reading your posts.
 
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Yeah, that tends to be how things work. Feed it more power and you get more performance - except in the case of AMD - since AMD has ultra binned ever single little slice of silicon, and offers it's pre over clocked. Along with that extra power comes extra heat - that is why it has a setting in BIOS to allow you to keep the 80W TDP or the 135W.

Nvidia is is no way shape or form concerned about whatever marketing term AMD is using to describe whatever warmed over ancient design they are selling this week. It just isn't an issue. AMD has about as much chance taking over the discrete GPU for laptops as it does becoming the top tier full size GPU vendor. "Big Massive Totally New and Shiny Look! Squirrel Navi" is vaporware and likely to remain as such - they will undoubtedly release something with better perf - but no where near where the AMD Kiddies think it it be.

Thing about AMD is they get things flipped - You under promise and over deliver - not over promise and under deliver - which is the history of the Ryzen line Because by now AMD should have 80% market share and Intel begging for scraps - yet that hasn't happened. Ryzen 1 (1x00 series) had the most impact, the subsequent 2 small iterative updates - not so much. Even though AMD is hitting record revenues (for AMD) it is still really nothing and R&D requires something in excess of nothing. Jim Keller's legacy at AMD (creator of Ryzen) is already in the market - they have nothing left to draw from. The changes between 1st gen Ryzen and most current in the market Ryzen is really not much at all. I know all the armchair lithography and CPU fabrication experts will say but but but "7nm"... turns out not that big of a deal. Not making money is why they spun off Global Foundries - and why they sold Ryzen designs to the Chinese - to keep the lights on while Ryzen was prepped to take over the world... a swing and a miss. I mean if Intel was in 1/10th the amount of trouble the AMD Kiddies think - then it should have been EZ Mode to fill in that gap - yet - no gap filled.

Having a CPU with no integrated graphics (even rudimentary) with a bunch of superfluous cores (reason why Intel was at 4 cores for desktop - that's what the market wanted) is why OEMs are not selling alot of AMD systems - having to add a graphics card (another line item in the BoM) but the added load on the Support and IT depts was part of the consideration for alot of companies to stick with Intel - install the chipset drivers and you are good to go.

The new 4x00 series APUs are great... Vast majority of businesses want basic Desktops - something to run Word, Excel, Outlook and Chrome. Don't need 8 cores and Vega graphics (still takes a sep driver)to do that.

So no Nvidia isn't worried, Intel is not worried - The one indispensable service AMD provides to both Nvidia and Intel is to shut down ppl wanting to say they are a monopoly in their respective fields. Kinda like how a Morty is a shield for a Rick. Advanced Morty Defenses.
You are just a salty uninformed poster. Intel fanboi
 
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Of course Nvidia is worried - even though they do have the performance crown, stuff like the crypto currency craze and Vulkan proved that AMD had enough resources even with a tenth the R&D budget and driver dev staff to keep within striking distance. Also AMD owns the console market, as soon as they could afford 2 GPU designs instead of 1 they would kick ass - and the half-baked RDNA design proved just that.
RDNA2 is almost here, and since AMD actually stopped overpromising with Ryzen, if they announce 50% better performance per watt we can expect "Big Navi" to be interesting at the very least.
I will finally be able to replace my faithful RX480 - almost 4 years old now and still good enough.
 

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You are just a salty uninformed poster. Intel fanboi
Some people are delusional. Nobody even said this was a bad thing from Nvidia (its actually quite a savvy move), but people assume whenever you don't directly praise Nvidia or Intel that you're personally insulting them and their purchasing decisions so they must justify themselves.
 
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Does that mean rtx 2060 mobile which already has 80w tdp will get 115w bios update or its just the new pcs with rtx 2060 get this hike?
 

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