[SOLVED] Nvme SSD

[vns2k177]

Hi

1. I want to go for a PCIE 4 compatible NVME SSD. Thinking about Samsung 980 Pro. As per tomshardware review (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-980-pro-m-2-nvme-ssd-review), it's endurance is somewhat disappointing. It says 600 TBW for the 1TB model. What does it actually mean? Can someone please explain?

2. Is there any other brand/model better than 980 Pro?

My advance thanks.

 

[Lutfij]

Where are you located and what is your preferred site for purchase? Would you happen to have a budget? If you're chasing behind high numbers, they will come with a high price tag or a compromise on one or more aspects in an SSD's design. Make and model of the motherboard you're looking to pair said SSD to? As for your question on endurance, please read through this article by WD. Here's a list of PCIe 4.0 SSD's as well as this.

 

[vns2k177]

I am in Chennai, India. I usually buy from Deltapage (https://deltapage.com/content/price.php) but from other sites too like Amazon, ITDepo, etc.

Here's the config: Ryzen 7 5700G, ASUS TUF B550 Plus (ATX board).

I see Samsung 980 Pro is a bit costly but for the speed, I think it's worth it.

I went through the article for endurance. Still need some clarification. According to this article ( https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/samsung-980-pro-1tb-nvme-ssd-review,2.html ), "If you write 50GB of data each and every day in a year, that's 18.25 TBW per year. 600:18.25 TB = almost 33 years of lifespan.". Is this true?

Appreciate the help!

 

[USAFRet]

Hi

1. I want to go for a PCIE 4 compatible NVME SSD. Thinking about Samsung 980 Pro. As per tomshardware review (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-980-pro-m-2-nvme-ssd-review), it's endurance is somewhat disappointing. It says 600 TBW for the 1TB model. What does it actually mean? Can someone please explain?

2. Is there any other brand/model better than 980 Pro?

My advance thanks.

What motherboard do you have?
What do you use this system for?
What other drives are in this system?


"600TBW" is not in any way 'disappointing'.
That is merely the warranty number, much like "5 years" is 'disappointing'.

This does not mean that it will keel over at 5 years + 1 day, nor at 601TBW.

In normal consumer use, it is highly unlikely you will get to 1/4 of that 600 in 5-10 years.

I have 7 drives in my system currently (see specs below). All 7 combined add up to 96TBW currently. A couple of these drives have been in near 24/7 use since Nov 2014.

Drives wearing out from too many write cycles is a thing of the past. Has not been an issue since soon after the very first consumer grade SSD's.

You drive will die of something else, or be replace due to size, long before you 'wear it out'.

 

[geofelt]

SSD devices are built on components that have a finite number of writes that can be done to them. TBW represents the number of writes that can be written to the device.
As a practical matter, you would need server level activity to your device before you ever ran out of writes. And, if you bought a 2tb device, the endurance would effectively double.
Any 1tb ssd you buy today will be long obsolete in a desktop environment before you run out of writes.
And, even if you do, the device can be read to allow you to copy it to a fresh device.

If you are not budget limited, 980 PRO is as good as it gets.
The samsung devices are fast and reliable.

But, if you have any budget concerns at all, ANY ssd will perform about the same as perceived by a user.
It takes a synthetic benchmark to differentiate.

Here is an amusing video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA

 

[vns2k177]

What motherboard do you have?
What do you use this system for?
What other drives are in this system?


"600TBW" is not in any way 'disappointing'.
That is merely the warranty number, much like "5 years" is 'disappointing'.

This does not mean that it will keel over at 5 years + 1 day, nor at 601TBW.

In normal consumer use, it is highly unlikely you will get to 1/4 of that 600 in 5-10 years.

I have 7 drives in my system currently (see specs below). All 7 combined add up to 96TBW currently. A couple of these drives have been in near 24/7 use since Nov 2014.

Drives wearing out from too many write cycles is a thing of the past. Has not been an issue since soon after the very first consumer grade SSD's.

You drive will die of something else, or be replace due to size, long before you 'wear it out'.

I am thinking about Asus TUF Gaming B550 plus and Ryzen 5700G. But just now I saw that 5700G will not support PCIE 4.0 and so no use going for PCIE 4.0 nVME.

My requirement: Fast and very quiet PC for software development and media consumption. I am not a gamer. I may (or may not at all ) play light games.

 

[USAFRet]

Don't build your system based on PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0 for the SSD.
As noted in the above vid, (and below) you'll see basically zero difference.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoRKQy-UO4

 

[vns2k177]

That's interesting. Now I am beginning from the beginning! 🙁

 

[dwd999]

The problem is there's a new drive released every week from another company trying to claim the crown as the best drive. This week its the Kingston KC3000. Before that the Corsair MP600 PRO XT. Before that the Seagate Firecuda 530 and another drive from Plextor that isn't available in every country. Most newer drives favor the Phison E18 controller with some type of high speed chips for the actual storage.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/phison-ps5018-e18-controller-tested

 

[vns2k177]

Understood . Thanks for the tips.

 

[vns2k177]

That's true. I understand.

 

[CountMike]

Another problem that came up lately is that disk manufacturers, because of lack of chips, keep on switching chips with lower quality or design mostly without telling. Can't be sure that same SSD bought last year is same as one you buy today.