[SOLVED] NZXT X52 240mm vs BeQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3?

[MaxTehLegend]

im looking for a better cooler so that i can hit higher overclocks and removing thermal limitations. my PC Specs are on my signature. is the NZXT X52 Kraken a good upgrade? or would it be considered a downgrade?

 

[Chugalug_]

The Dark Rock 3 is about the same and quieter, no point.
It's a waste of cash, your system is already top end.
Save for a 1080 Ti.

 

[MaxTehLegend]

The Dark Rock 3 is about the same and quieter, no point.
It's a waste of cash, your system is already top end.
Save for a 1080 Ti.

i was looking for a cooler that would cool better than this one as my overclock is stable but it hits 90-97c in AIDA64 since my i7 4770K is @4.7GHz, 1.4V. and i know it can go higher so i wanted to push it higher

 

[Chugalug_]

Sounds like something's wrong, remount the cooler, and check fan profiles.

 

[MaxTehLegend]

Sounds like something's wrong, remount the cooler, and check fan profiles.

fans max speed, remounted cooler several times, tried different thermal paste. still same results.

 

[Chugalug_]

Either way, it's Aida 64, not an accurate idea of what you should expect normally.
Do you have both fans on?
That's still quite toasty.
Turn up the fan profile a little, the Kraken will only be a little better.

 

[MaxTehLegend]

Either way, it's Aida 64, not an accurate idea of what you should expect normally.
Do you have both fans on?
That's still quite toasty.
Turn up the fan profile a little, the Kraken will only be a little better.

yeah i know that AIDA64 would what i would expect normally, as in most games it will rarely peak over 70c (since the games would not pull as much watts as AIDA64, Prime95, and intel burn test does and the fact that the CPU isn't @100% usage.) yes both fans on. as i mentioned before. all fans are maxed out. if the Kraken can cool it down below 90c in AIDA64 id consider the upgrade.

 

[Karadjgne]

I7 3770k. 4.9GHz @ 1.32v is 74°C on my kraken x61, fans set for silent mode. Prime95 v26.6 small fft.
You are pretty much topped out by voltage, you really do not want to push higher than 1.4v vcore for general use. This leaves you 2 options since you are where you are at. Downclock or fix the OC. If you are positive you can go higher, then it's not the temp that's the issue, but other things, such as LLC, current maximums, eco settings, turbo, hibernation, PLL, phases, system agent, VCCIO, something isn't set right.

Personally, I'd spend some time over at Asus ROG forums going through the bios files of what some of those guys are setting, trying, pointing at. Granted some of the names will be different, it's MSI vrs Asus bios, but the actual mechanics are the same. I could only get 4.7GHz stable at 1.32v as I had PLL set for 1.9v, which some recommended, then I read further and a poster said to undervolt from default 1.8v to 1.7v instead of overvolt to 1.9v. I tried that, and 'bing!' 4.9GHz stable at same voltage.

There's a lot more to extreme OC other than bumping vcore and LLC. Msi boards can control phase usage, it's an eco setting normally set for auto. Both need to be disabled. You want all voltage phases working 100% of the time, not dropping with cpu fluctuations in % usage. Creates instability. Etc etc etc...

If you can get vcore down, keep current to @110-120% max, you'll drop your temps.

 

[MaxTehLegend]

I7 3770k. 4.9GHz @ 1.32v is 74°C on my kraken x61, fans set for silent mode. Prime95 v26.6 small fft.
You are pretty much topped out by voltage, you really do not want to push higher than 1.4v vcore for general use. This leaves you 2 options since you are where you are at. Downclock or fix the OC. If you are positive you can go higher, then it's not the temp that's the issue, but other things, such as LLC, current maximums, eco settings, turbo, hibernation, PLL, phases, system agent, VCCIO, something isn't set right.

Personally, I'd spend some time over at Asus ROG forums going through the bios files of what some of those guys are setting, trying, pointing at. Granted some of the names will be different, it's MSI vrs Asus bios, but the actual mechanics are the same. I could only get 4.7GHz stable at 1.32v as I had PLL set for 1.9v, which some recommended, then I read further and a poster said to undervolt from default 1.8v to 1.7v instead of overvolt to 1.9v. I tried that, and 'bing!' 4.9GHz stable at same voltage.

There's a lot more to extreme OC other than bumping vcore and LLC. Msi boards can control phase usage, it's an eco setting normally set for auto. Both need to be disabled. You want all voltage phases working 100% of the time, not dropping with cpu fluctuations in % usage. Creates instability. Etc etc etc...

If you can get vcore down, keep current to @110-120% max, you'll drop your temps.

i was looking everywhere for some info about this for my board and bios, i couldn't find any information on what to set my VCCIN, DigitALL Power settings, and CPU Features to set to in my bios. so i had to guess what would improve my oc and what would slow my oc down. ill screenshot what my bios settings look like. if you see anything wrong point it out

 

[MaxTehLegend]