Obama Signs Executive Order At National Cybersecurity Summit

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President Obama spoke in Silicon Valley about events affecting cybersecurity and the development of the Internet and signed an executive order.

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[rluker5]

Some nice sounding hollow words followed by an order for the private sector to allow some degree of invasion of privacy by the government. Hopefully this doesn't tie in to the FCC's upcoming regulation of the internet this month. I hear the golf courses in Hawaii are beautiful this time of year. This guy deserves a break.

 

[gsxrme]

I have nothing to hide, so unless your worried about something your doing wrong who gives a shit.

Snoop away, there will be a-lot of World of Warcraft reports on the Obama's desk.

 

[dark_strike]

If has nothing to do about what you have to hide gsxrme. It has to do with invasion of privacy. 99% of the people out there have nothing to hide. Yet they don't want anyone up in there business.

 

[Freedom Miner]

@ gsxrme "I have nothing to hide"... "Snoop away"... That has to be the saddest comments I've heard from someone in a bit. Have you ever even bothered to ever look at the constitution? I bet it doesn't bother you one bit that courageous people who've tried to be decent citizens and blown the whistle on the wickedness, illegality, and corruption of this administration have been turned into criminals by this admin in particular. Despite the fact they did the right thing. You wouldn't care if the majority of us were taken away never to be seen again as long as it doesn't affect you. The fact that the administration may as well be using the constitution as toilet paper doesn't bother you one bit. Why should it? Why would someone so cowardly and beyond hope care? You're the perfect human drone the powers that be have been aiming to develop through decades of generational dumbing down and brainwashing. Too pathetic for words...

 

[falchard]

God I hate this president. I don't think it matters who the president was, they would still take the same dumbass steps into making the Internet a Utility.
What's worse is his 4 priorities are contradictory. Probably the biggest cyber security threat is the back door the NSA builds into OSes and machines now. What he seems to be advocating now is the censorship of the internet in the same way broadcast news was censored in the '70s.
Why do individuals need rights when they have no restriction? Its really to discuss what limits the government will place on individuals and the rights they will have after words.
Seriously difficulty in the evolution of the internet? Have you not seen the internet? It is the fastest evolving media thanks to its unregulated free-market environment.
Man I hate this president. I wish we still hung dictators.

 

[dark_strike]

@ falchard @ Freedom Miner

Amen brothers(sorry if either one of you are a woman, just a phrase). There is something that a lot of people don't understand though. Now I know I am going to piss off a whole slew of people. This has to be said though. Obama is a baby boomer. Baby boomers don't understand the internet. The internet may have been developed by that generation. It was the millennials that perfected it and understood it. The internet is a living breathing, evolving being. Yet the baby boomers( I KNOW NOT ALL OF THEM ) look at it as just a tool at which anarchists cause trouble. Never taking into any real account that their is good and bad with everything. So they disguise bills under false pretense of protecting the people in reality it is something that they don't control and it pisses them off. Just like what is happening with the E-cigarettes.

 

[southernshark]

Most people are completely naive, like the fellow above who "has nothing to hide."

The insidious use of this information will never be made public. It will be used behind closed doors, to pressure politicians, business leaders and public figures to make decisions that the government wants them to make, either by using blackmail or offering them information about a rival, or simply by knowing what's in their private thoughts.

Some people will say that the government would never do that, those people are complete idiots.

 

[Geza Fischer]

if you freely give the government the right to take your privacy, you are only encouraging them to take more. The more the government takes the more the citizens become conditioned to having no rights and pretty soon the government has control of everything.

 

[Asimina]

Praise the Lord he has only a couple of years left...

 

[Wisecracker]

I guess the anti-GRAPES does not apply here ...

???

 

[Shankovich]

As long as Lockheed and Northrop protect their stuff better. We don't need another 2008 China stealing the F-35 happening again.

 

[alextheblue]

Praise the Lord he has only a couple of years left...

He can do a lot of damage in those last two years. Controlling the internet via various rules and regulations is just one piece of the puzzle. Heck he has everyone convinced that their packet oversight rules are for the Greater Good.

 

[arboy79]

So let me get this right, 100% of the comments on here are bashing the president for various reasons. One of them is because he's enforcing net neutrality. So we should let cable companies continue to put their own strangle hold and regulations on the internet as opposed to keeping it open and free?

 

[arboy79]

the other argument is against the executive order which is badly needed. We need a HIPPA type law for consumer privacy on the internet. The mindset of your typical tech geek is that government should have ZERO ability to regulate or stop abuses by corporations and that corporations will just automatically do the right thing. My generation and younger have been brought up in a world that has been so sterilized and spoiled by regulation that we don't see what it was like before we had them. We think that things are like they are because "free markets" dictated and made things change on their own--the invisible hand did it all. BOGUS! These companies have been whipped into shape by regulation. Since the 80's the regulation of corporations is frowned upon by society. That mindset needs to change. We are falling farther and farther behind in the world thanks to massive deregulation and lack of much need regulation on business and corporations.

 

[atwspoon]

@ arboy79 ftw. the comments thus far are quite single sided. I'm sure a good counter argument could be made, every action has an equal re-action, that sort of thing. For instance, to those who do not want federal government invading internet privacy, what about private companies practicing unrestricted privacy invasion already, because there is no authority telling them not to. Study the early 20th century private businesses pre-regulation, and come back with a good counter argument, I would welcome that.

 

[atwspoon]

One concern I have is the function of these ISAOs. Having one foot in the door of the private sector, the other in the government;s door, what sort of activities will they be apart of in order to fulfill cybersecurity?

 

[achoo2]

These are important issues that our government is very late in addressing. I do wish that the language in the consumer bill of rights was stronger, though. Specifically, I'd like to see non-essential data collection be restricted to an opt-in format.

In ten years, when every device in your home is a "smart" device, the net sum of data leaking out of the typical home is going to be staggering. Unless your "smart" coffee-maker has a demonstrable need to upload your brewing habits it should be prohibited from doing so. The average consumer doesn't have the necessary knowledge or time to firewall their DVD player so that it can only "talk" to their home theatre, but that doesn't mean that their viewing habits should become a commodity.

Telling people how you're going to use their data isn't enough. We see this same problem with health care: every doctor's new patient forms now read like a software EULA. You can't get a flu shot without giving someone your e-mail address and permission to electronically transmit your medical history. What difference does it make that you're expressly warned when every doctor has the same terms of service?

 

[alextheblue]

We are falling farther and farther behind in the world thanks to massive deregulation and lack of much need regulation on business and corporations.

Proof? We have heavier regulations than many places in the world. Guess where businesses have been moving their production... places with cheaper labor and less costly regulations (or virtually none at all). Like China. Look at the labor participation rate here. Regulate your way out of that - you can't!

Even when businesses choose to stay (or are forced to because their model requires them to operate here - McDonalds can't sell burgers from afar), it can have a negative impact. Rising costs always get passed on to the consumer.

So we should let cable companies continue to put their own strangle hold and regulations on the internet as opposed to keeping it open and free?

How is your internet not open and free right now? In what way are they prohibiting you from doing something? Everyone says this, and then when asked for proof they instead change subjects and whine about internet speeds and pricing. Well guess what pal, NN doesn't fix those issues, at all. It regulates packets, not speeds and price. If you're expecting a positive change there you're going to be sorely disappointed.

If you really want to make a positive change, open up competition. Prevent local governments from locking in a single cable provider, or provide incentives for Verizon to build out their FiOS network further.

 

[Christopher1]

If has nothing to do about what you have to hide gsxrme. It has to do with invasion of privacy. 99% of the people out there have nothing to hide. Yet they don't want anyone up in there business.

Bullplop. EVERYONE has something they wish to hide. From their porn viewing habits, to the fact that they like children's animation, to whatever you wish to name.
Anyone who says "I have nothing to hide!" is either a robot or a sociopathic liar.

 

[atwspoon]

@Alextheblue
In reply to the internet not being free and open. As far as I understand it, my ISP stands inbetween me and the open internet. They have open access to everything I type and see, and can implement blocks to my internet access for the reasons they apply to the ISP user agreement, such as internet piracy or facilitating kitty porn etc.. Can my ISP share any of that personal information? I do not know.

 

[alextheblue]

@Alextheblue
In reply to the internet not being free and open. As far as I understand it, my ISP stands inbetween me and the open internet. They have open access to everything I type and see, and can implement blocks to my internet access for the reasons they apply to the ISP user agreement, such as internet piracy or facilitating kitty porn etc.. Can my ISP share any of that personal information? I do not know.

You have still failed to give any examples where your internet access has been restricted. Not to mention you're giving scenarios of spying that would only be WORSE with the federal government involved. The private ISPs don't go looking for trouble. The Feds do. You ask if your ISP can share your information? Well, by the actions of our government, including this latest Executive Order, they not only can, but they MUST share it regardless of how they feel.

The NSA drew a lot of flack for their mass-warrant surveillance, so they're shifting gears. Now they force ISPs and carriers to collect the data and share it with them. See, now it's not illegal and they make the ISPs the bad guys all in one fell swoop - unless you follow the bread crumbs. They've got lots of people convinced they only have your best interests at heart - they have you convinced. The ISPs are the big evil bad guys and the government is going to swoop in and save you from future crimes of the ISPs. Meanwhile we're going to "share data" to uh, protect you from... cybercrime. Or something.

 

[atwspoon]

@alextheblue
In response to how internet is open and free. As far as I understand, my ISP stands inbetween me and the open internet of packet traffic. The ISP can see anything I do over the internet, and can implement a block to my service if it notices activity that violates anything on their user agreement. Can my ISP share my personal information? I do not know that answer.

 

[noahdess2828]

I love how the government thinks they can regulate the internet not only is it not possible. but it is also illegal to many people have excepted the fact that the government is regulating something it has no legal jurisdiction over. it is like if the us government said the no one could boat in international waters off Australia. but in the end any one with the right knowledge can avoid them look at torrents

 

[bighalverson]

Freedom Miner, if only 15% of the population actually read what you said, there would be a lot of angry citizens out there. But alas, the US citizen of today lacks the package that the citizen of the 20th century had. I love the new quote used almost regularly now, "As long as it does not affect me I'm cool with it". True Americans would volunteer for the inhumanity and oppression of Germany. But again, that was about 100 years ago and the American people are not getting any braver, just far more cowardly. "If I don't know about it must mean it ain't so". Jeez, what have we become.