OC'n a 2400+ Help Please

Clob · Jun 15, 2005

Here, heres my system that I plan to OC.

ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe
2400+ T-bred (266fsb)
768meg of mixed ram. Two sticks of generick (no clue on type) 400mhz chips and 1 stick of Corsair 333
6800NU
Aspire 500w PSU (all volt rails are stable and very close to home)

Tomorrow I plan to pick up a Thermaltake Volcano 11+ to aid in the cooling. I will get this from Frys Electronics.

I dont know of anyother cooler at <A HREF="http://www.outpost.com" target="_new"> Outpost.com </A> that will fit Socket A and cool as good. I realy dont care about the noise when my headphones are blasting in my ears!

Since these dualcore chips have started to come around, I have ben a bit power hungry; Hence my wanting to OC my chip.

Now I know the basics of OC'ing a chip. I do not plan to take this past 166fsb because I dont care to OC that 333 chip at all and I doubt that it can clock anyhigher at all.

166 x 15 = 2490. I would like to reach 3200+ speeds if at all possible! 2400mhz would be very nice!

My biggest problem is correct settings in BIOS. If anyone could give me a hand with RAM timings it would be great. I plan to start with CL3 and lower as I go. As of now I am running 2.5CL at 2.7v.

All the other settings I left default and some I dont know what they are for. Any help would be very much appreciated.

As for my Temps. My case is 32C right now and with this stock cooler my cpu is 48C. I only have the web browser open.

Also if anyone could help me to identify those two sticks of ram, I would love you long time!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"
Edited by clob on 06/15/05 04:28 PM.

Coyote · Jun 16, 2005

Now I know the basics of OC'ing a chip. I do not plan to take this past 166fsb because I dont care to OC that 333 chip at all and I doubt that it can clock anyhigher at all.

166 x 15 = 2490. I would like to reach 3200+ speeds if at all possible! 2400 would be very nice!

My biggest problem is correct settings in BIOS. If anyone could give me a hand with RAM timings it would be great. I plan to start with CL3 and lower as I go. As of now I am running 2.5CL at 2.7v.

Since your not going to raise the FSB, I see no need ATM to mess with ram timings.

I assume you're already running at 166/333, so why bother? You're only OCing the CPU via the multi.

Also if anyone could help me to identify those two sticks of ram, I would love you long time!

Get Everst Home Edition from below and run it. It should tell you about your ram.

<A HREF="http://www.lavalys.com/products/eapm.php?pid=1&lang=en&pageid=2" target="_new">http://www.lavalys.com/products/eapm.php?pid=1&lang=en&pageid=2</A>

Mobile XP 2600+ (11X215)
Abit NF7-S v 2.0
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
1 gig Corsair XMS PC3200
eVGA 6800GT
Enermax Noisetaker 420 watts
Win2K sp4

Clob · Jun 16, 2005

WOOO! My bad.. My CPU is running at 133FSB (266). I will correct that in the original post. Thanks.

I thaught that the T-bred chips are multi locked?!?

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"
Edited by clob on 06/15/05 04:15 PM.

Clob · Jun 16, 2005

That program did not identify my chips. Its a nice tool, Thanks.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

Clob · Jun 16, 2005

Accoring to CPUZ my FSB is 133.
Under the memory tab it says:

Frequency 167.0
FSB😀RAM 4:5

I lowered my timings for now and its pretty stable.
They are 2.0 3 3 6

Whats does the 4:5 mean? Is my CPU FSB running slower than the chips are?

It says im running dual channel with all three slots filled! How does that work?

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"
Edited by clob on 06/15/05 04:42 PM.

Clob · Jun 16, 2005

Ok I changed the FSB😀RAM to 1:1

Maybe it will be more stable at CL2.0

Im guessing its the crappy cooling, but the computer wont boot into windows at 140fsb. Yucky! That should be fixed tomorrow when I get a new HSF.

Seems all I needed was to talk it out lmao. I'm also out of work and BORED AS HELL! This is probably why im posting soooo much.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"
Edited by clob on 06/17/05 10:08 PM.

apesoccer · Jun 17, 2005

Heya clob

I would start out at 1:1 when you start oc'n that 2400. It's already at a fairly high overall mhz, so it might be that you can't take it much further. The motherboard you're using has a agp lock i believe, you'll want to make sure you have that locked. It'll be in the bios i think.

Keep in mind you'll want to watch your temps all the time. I would quit when your idle temp is at 40c...because when you are playing games, it'll max out your cpu, which will raise the temp anywhere from 5-15c dependant on how well the hsf is seated and how well it moves heat from the cpu. I would also recommend taking the side of the case off, while you initially oc (dependant on how well your case is ventalated this could decrease the amb temp by 5-10c; in my case with 5 80mm fans [3 in 2 out [not including the psu]] taking the side off, the temp decreases the cpu by 5c). In terms of your ram (assuming [and you know what that means] that your bottleneck right now is your ram), you'll get a better OC at higher memory settings. So, if you're setting it to 2 3 3 8 then you might be maxing your OC out at 140fsb because of that. If you change your timings to 3 3 3 10 2T you'll be able to go another 5-20mhz higher. Because you've already said you're hitting temps of 48c at idle now, i'd say you don't have much room to OC, short of using water cooling. Using a better HSF might (and this is a huge might), bring you down to 38c at high fan speeds. However, what that equates to, is 44-46c at full cpu usage. With your current setup, it's probably running in the middle 50's.

On my own machine, oc'd from 1.8 to 2.1 (64 3000+: maxing on air in the 2.4 range), it has never seen 50c. Right now, at 83f in my room, it's running 46c at full load (f@h running in the background...it runs 48c with games like doom and hl2).

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2400+][2000+][1.3][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL TimeEdited by apesoccer on 06/17/05 11:39 AM.

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

I will raise the ram timings when I OC (i think i did when i tryed 140fsb). I should be getting my new cooler come the 21st or 22nd in the mail. People are reporting 15C difference over stock cooling at load. Some around 20C difference. I do plan to run the fan at max when computer is in use.

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106042" target="_new">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106042</A> <--- Linky to my new cooler.

*Edit: I found some one that would let me use their credit card. To bad I only had $40 to spend.

As for my case. Its a Dragon full tower. 2 fans in the PSU running at max, I have 2 on the back blowing in (they keep the CPU cooler for some reason) and two in the front (one blowing out and the other cooling my HD's blowing in. That makes 3 blowing in and 3 blowing out. Note that the PSU fans move more air than the imput fans.

Thanks for all the advice.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"
Edited by clob on 06/17/05 10:06 PM.

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

Also, my DDR333 chip is rated at 2.5 3 3 6(at 333fsb) and the two DDR400 chips are 2.5 3 3 8 (at 200fsb)

I would assume it would be safe to run them at 2.5 3 3 6 while OC'n untill I hit 166 (333); witch I doubt. 166x15=2490. I dont think it will go that far and be as stable as I like.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

That HSF spinns at 5500rpms, rated at 72CFM. What do you suggest I replace it with that will move more air?

I will look for my case online... Ill post linky.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"
Edited by clob on 06/17/05 10:14 PM.

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

<A HREF="http://www.chieftec.com/products/Workcolor/Dragon.htm" target="_new">Here ya go </A>

I have the blue windowed one on the 2nd row. Mine does not have that fan in the window. Same design otherwise.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"
Edited by clob on 06/17/05 10:17 PM.

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

Or if I plan to sleep lmfao!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

How about that 120mm fans that moves like 200cfm ( i think more) with a funnel!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 18, 2005

I would suppose hearing loss would come into play if its too loud!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Good sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 23, 2005

All right i got the new cooler installed and here are my results.

Stock speed with the stock cooler was 45C idle and 55-57C load. (case 32C)

With the new cooler, I am running 40C idle and 43-44C load (max fan speed) and 48C load with minumum fan speed. (case 32C

I will OC the chip soon. Sweet results though!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 23, 2005

Ok. I have OC'd the CPU and it wont run over 145fsb (2.18ghz) at 1.675 even if I raise the Vcore to 1.775.

It wont boot if I raise the Vcore too for some reason. I dont know what the problem is. The temps are uneffected by the OC too.

MBM5 started freaking out on me saysing the case and cpu was at 101C and then -43C. Then it would reset and read normal.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

Clob · Jun 24, 2005

CPU-Z says its Revision B0

Edit: Its a B, B0 is the stepping.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"
Edited by clob on 06/23/05 08:05 PM.

Clob · Jun 24, 2005

Gosh I dont know how old it is. I'm thinking of doing the hardware mod with the wires on the pins to raise the FSB by 66% (200). I will be going down to 512mb of ram, but I will see what I like.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"
Edited by clob on 06/23/05 08:43 PM.

Clob · Jun 24, 2005

Pin mod did not work for some reason. I used different size copper strands and i was still stuck at 15X. CRUD!

But I did get the CPU to post at 2.4ghz (160fsb). It went into windows once at 2.3ghz. I dont know what I did afterwards but it would not boot. Now I am back at stock speed because im tired of messing with it.... For now.

Maybe the U shaped silver paint will work!

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

danizaken · Jun 27, 2005

I remember overclocking it way back to 2700+ with a Abit motherboard. I don't remember how much i raised the voltages but i simply chose the 2700+ cpu in bios and it clocked at its speed.

ChipDeath · Jun 28, 2005

Generally speaking, even with half-decent air cooling, most t-bred's top out around 2.2Ghz, so You're probably hitting the 'sensible voltage' limit of the chip. They always seem to get fairly easily up to a certain clockspeed, but then at some point need a comparatively huge Vcore jump to go further.

A great example is my 1700+. If would do 200x10 with only 1.4V, and 2.26Ghz with 1.55V, but to get 2.3Ghz required 1.775V (and a ThermalTake SI-97.. A socket A cooler I'd recommend to anyone, apart from LAN party enthusiasts!

)

---
"Life is not like a box of chocolates. It's more like a jar of jalapeńos - what you do today might burn your ass tommorrow."

Clob · Jun 29, 2005

I did more research and I knoticed that I have a "newer" version of the Tbred core.. A green one. So there is no hardmod (that I could find) that will unlock the multi.

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

Clob · Jul 15, 2005

Update: I have moved my computer into a cooler room and I use Speedfan now to adjust the clock speed on the fly! Quite nice. I have it set for 66mhz when idle and 150mhz fsv when at max! Runs very stable when at max and my cooler keeps it below 45C. Thats 250mhz OC on stock voltage. I would like to get it to 2.4ghz if at all possible. Does anyone have any clue as to why the computer wont boot windows or restarts if I try and up the voltage at all?

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

Clob · Jul 17, 2005

SOI?

You saying that its the Tbred that doesn't like any more voltage?

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

Clob · Jul 17, 2005

I have heard that pushing tbreds past 1.8 could possibly damage the core. Past 1.85 seems dangerous!

I still dont understand why It wont boot with higher voltages even at stock speed?!?!?

"Battling Gimps and Dimbulbs HERE at THGC"

" Wusy <-Professional sheep banger"

OC'n a 2400+ Help Please

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Splendid

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Distinguished

Share this page