OCZ Preps Second-Gen TLC, First NVMe SSDs For 2016

[Guest]

OCZ will release two new SSDs in early 2016. The RevoDrive 400 and Trion 150 will help the company gain market share that has slipped in recent years.

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[mapesdhs]

"OCZ has always competed aggressively on price."

That depends on where you live. OCZ's SSDs have been way too expensive in the UK for quite some time now, if one can find them at all (the Vector 180 barely surfaced). Hardly anywhere here sells the Trion 100, and the price is too high anyway (an 850 EVO is cheaper; who in their right mind would buy a Trion instead of an 850 EVO??).

I like OCZ SSDs a lot, I own several dozen, but their prices have been far too high for a long time now. I've still yet to see any SSD product that could pull me away from buying an 850 EVO, under 60 UKP for 250GB, 111 UKP for 500GB. Cheaper models aren't worth the cost saving once one takes into account warranty, reliability, etc.

 

[bauboni]

Here in Brazil they're expensive as well. In US, the Arc 100 for $72,93 is a great MLC SSD value.

 

[hannibal]

Samsung 3d nand has no competition at this moment. They could sell 850 even cheaper, but they don't have to. We need at least 2 more nand companies to produce 3d nand and we began again see some real competition.
Until that Samsung can trim their prices according what other companies can do with older technology.
That real competition will happen soon, so only one or two years and we have multiple 3d nand solutions in the market!

 

[Mac266]

Samsung 3d nand has no competition at this moment. They could sell 850 even cheaper, but they don't have to. We need at least 2 more nand companies to produce 3d nand and we began again see some real competition.
Until that Samsung can trim their prices according what other companies can do with older technology.
That real competition will happen soon, so only one or two years and we have multiple 3d nand solutions in the market!

I don't know, I've picked up a couple of Crucial drives, and they're not too bad.

 

[hannibal]

True, there are other good drives, but it is more expensive to manufacture them than Samsung drives, so Samsung has an edge.

 

[mapesdhs]

It's interesting that Samsung has allowed pricing to drop as low as it has. Until the recent currency slide, the 850 EVO 250GB hit as little as 53 UKP total in the UK (Amazon during the xmas period). Assuming Samsung is still making a decent profit at these prices, perhaps the low pricing is merely their attempt to drive volume in order to make up for financial issues they've been having in other areas of their business empire. Normally, SSD vendors don't allow pricing to go so low if they don't have to - this happened in late-2012/early-2013 after massive offer-related sales of the 830 256GB showed there was just no need to position a 256GB mainstream unit that low, so pricing across the board from all vendors shot back up again (around 150 UKP) and stayed there for over a year until things finally started to move once more with the 840/EVO.

Can anyone compete with Samsung? Well, whatever happened to SanDisk's stated goals from a year or so ago that they wanted to rapidly ramp up capacity to 4TB, 8TB, etc.? Pricing is obviously key, but there's a core market who care about capacity just as much. I really wanted to buy a 950 Pro NVMe for my laptop, but in the end I couldn't ignore the fact that an 850 EVO SATA would provide the same capacity for half the cost, and atm the higher capacity PCIe M.2 modules do seem to have thermal issues.

Perhaps we still need to see the emergence of a pricing/capacity sweetspot that will really drive sales; until recently I'd have said that would be a 512GB device, but I've noticed a lot more people in forums recently talking about wanting 1TB minimum for their main SSD purchase.

Isn.

 

[Nintendork]

And i mean, unless you actually edit video and or copy data from more than 1 m.2 pcie ssd, you won't notice a difference.

My ideal machine would run a 2TB 850EVO and 4 Western Digital Black 6TB (+another 4 as backup off-machine).

 

[Nintendork]

And i mean, unless you actually edit video and or copy data from more than 1 m.2 pcie ssd, you won't notice a difference.

 

[mapesdhs]

Probably true, thatas always I plan on doing proper tests. I'll leave it for a while though, let prices fall, and hopefully newer/rival products will solve thermal throttling issues. I particularly want to see whether having an M.2 SSD instead of a SATA SSD would help with AE when used as the main cache (lots of people post opinions, but nobody's actually tested it).