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if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
does he?

what if one of the creatures has first strike?

thanks again.

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The Dude <thedude@thedudelives.com> sent:
> if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
> what happens?

Unless there's reason not to, your attacker deals lethal damage
to three of the blockers, and the blockers deal lethal damage
to the attacking creature.

> do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
> does he?

You choose how to allocate combat damage to be dealt by creatures
you control, unless there's something to say otherwise (such as the
old banding ability)

So, in the case above, there's one combat encounter involving five
creatures - one attacker, four blockers. The four blockers all deal
their damage to the one attacker, there's no choice in the matter.
The attacker has a number of places to put its 3 damage. One way
would be to put all three damage on a single creature, and let the
other creatures suffer no damage at all. Alternatively, you can
assign one point of the damage to each of three creatures.

> what if one of the creatures has first strike?

If a creature has first strike, you deal with its damage in an
entirely separate combat damage step, before the rest of the creatures.
If it's one of those 1/1 blockers, then its 1 damage to the attacking
creature won't of itself cause that attacker to be destroyed; the
attacker remains to deal its damage and to receive the remaining 3
damage from the other blockers.

If it's the attacker that has first strike, then it gets to deal its
damage to the blockers before any of the blockers deals damage back.
One damage to each of three of those creatures will cause them to
be destroyed, and then they will not be present to deal any damage
back to the attacking creature.

> thanks again.

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The Dude sez:

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>
>if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
>what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
>does he?

>
>>

The controller of the damage is the one that allocates it. Always. For
blockers, there usually is no decision (Yare and Two-Headed Giant of Foriys
notwithstanding). For attackers, the attacking player redistributes among the
blockers however he wants. In this case, the attacking creature and, most
likely, three of his blockers would die.

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>what if one of the creatures has first strike?
>>

Doesn't matter (except if the attacker does, then he survives this little trip;
otherwise he dies.) It's just that one of the creatures deals damage faster.
Doesn't change who allocates it in the slightest.

The only thing that changes who allocates damage, AFAIR, is banding. And, of
course, that's now obsolete.


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Oh no! It's The Dude!
> if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
> what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
> does he?
>
> what if one of the creatures has first strike?

Barring an old ability called Banding, or a not-quite-as-old enchantment
whose name I forget, each player chooses how to assign the damage from
creatures they control. Thus you can choose to deal 1 damage each to 3
of the blockers, and they (not having a choice) each deal 1 to your
creature. The end result would be that your creature and your choice of
three blockers would die, in this case.

If one of the blockers has first strike, it deals its damage earlier,
but in this scenario that's unlikely to make a difference. If your
creature has first strike, it will deal its damage earlier and that
*does* make a difference, because by the time they can deal damage three
of the blocking creatures will be dead.

 

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In <419ddad4$1_1@news.tm.net.my> "The Dude" <thedude@thedudelives.com> writes:

> if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
> what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
> does he?

You assign the damage dealt by your creature, and your opponent assigns
the damage dealt by his creatures. In this case, you would presumably
assign one damage each to three of his creatures.

(But banding changes things. If one of his creatures had banding, then
HE gets to assign the damage from YOUR creature, presumably assigning all
three damage to one creature.)

> what if one of the creatures has first strike?

Its damage is assigned first, and creatures killed by first strike damage
don't live long enough to deal their damage.

In your example if your creature had first strike, you would again
presumably choose to deal one damage each to three of his creatures,
killing them before they could deal their damage. Your creature would
take only one point of damage from his last remaining blocker.

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The Dude <thedude@thedudelives.com> wrote:

> if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
> what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
> does he?

You announce how your creature will assign its combat damage.

310.1. As the combat damage step begins, the active player announces how
each attacking creature will assign its combat damage. Then the
defending player announces how each blocking creature will assign its
combat damage. All assignments of combat damage go on the stack as a
single object. Then any abilities that triggered on damage being
assigned go on the stack. (See rule 410, "Handling Triggered
Abilities.") Then the active player gets priority and players may play
spells and abilities.

> what if one of the creatures has first strike?

If one of the blockers has first strike, it will deal 1 damage to the
attacker before the attacker and the other blockers do their combat
damage.

If the attacker has first strike, it will deal its damage to the
blockers as you assign it. Once any/all blockers with lethal damage
have gone away, any surviving blockers will get to do combat damage.
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The Dude wrote:

> if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1
> creatures, what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures
> myself or does he?

You do, unless one of the 1/1s has banding (in which case he does).
>
> what if one of the creatures has first strike?

First strike is resolved completely before regular damage. If the 3/4
has first strike, it can kill up to three of the 1/1s before the 1/1s
can do damage (which means they can't kill the 3/4 when their turn to
inflict damage comes). Damage is cumulative (doesn't reset until
the end of the turn), so if some of 1/1s have first strike and some
don't, they'll still kill the 3/4. But in order to kill the 3/4 in
the first strike phase and prevent it from dealing damage itself,
all four would have to be first strike.
>
> thanks again.
>

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:36:53 +0800, The Dude <thedude@thedudelives.com> wrote:
>if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
>what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
>does he?

You do. In general, the controller of the creature dealing combat damage
decides how to divide it, if there's any choice, as it goes onto the stack.

So all four of his 1/1s must assign their 1 damage to your 3/4, while your
3/4 can, as you choose, assign all 3 to one of the blockers, assign 2 to one
and 1 to another, or can assign 1 each to three of the four.

>what if one of the creatures has first strike?

If one of the 1/1s has first strike, not much changes in the end; that one
deals its 1 damage to the 3/4, then later the other three do and the 3/4
deals out its damage.

If the 3/4 has first strike, then it can kill off one, two, or three of the
blockers before they ever get to assign any combat damage onto the stack; in
this case that does make a difference, because there will not be enough of
them left to in turn kill the 3/4.

Dave
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On 19 Nov 2004 15:08:29 GMT, Andy Jakcsy <djaxmann@aol.computer> wrote:
>The Dude sez:
>>if i attack with a 3/4 creature and my opponent blocks with 4 1/1 creatures,
>>what happens? do i allocate out the damage(s) to his creatures myself or
>>does he?
>
>The controller of the damage is the one that allocates it. Always.

Careful.

First, "damage" doesn't have a controller. The creatures involved do. The
controller of an attacking or blocking creature is the one who assigns its
damage, UNLESS something says otherwise. (At present banding can say otherwise,
and Defensive Formation also can.)

Dave
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