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[citation][nom]soccerplayer88[/nom]Most likely correct. Too bad though, been itching to replace my 5850.Very interested in seeing the XDR2 DRAM memory in action. Hopefully Rambus isn't blowing just smoke with their claims.[/citation]
Years ago Intel partnered with Rambus... And abandoned in favour of SDRAM.
Years ago Intel partnered with Rambus... And abandoned in favour of SDRAM.
not exactly. they scrapped the 28 nm apus at glofo and went to tsmc (for 28 nm apus) to start from the begining.
a recent rumor about trinity (32 nm) suggests that glofo has had higher-than-llano yields for trinity and those should be more available.
[citation][nom]digiex[/nom]Hello AMD,Can the graphics team cross train with the processor team?They making a terrific job in the graphics design, the processor team might learn something from them.[/citation]
honestly, amd didn't fail on bulldozer, assuming it was 5 years ago, they banked on processes being threaded by now, but sadly some crap software that everyone still uses is single thread. when you look at this in a multi thread environment, it preforms up to and above its price point.
if windows 8 really does handle threads (not cores) in a new way that also effect single core, you could very well see bulldozer be a recommended for future builds.
[citation][nom]ProDigit10[/nom]I am not so confident in the stability of 28nm chips yet! There's a reason both Intel, and AMD delayed their CPU batches to this size!I first want to see users use this chip for a couple of months, benchmarking it, see if it gives in to the stress . If it passes one full year of benchmarking, I might become interested.[/citation]
cost to manufacturer, yeilds were poor, so on and so forth. with intel, they have a new graphics solution and trigate, an not mature process, amd... well... their fab partner for cpu sucks, and they are moving to a different one.
you have to remember, amd has no qualms with locking cores on a bad chip to make it work right, so plan on seeing more low end cards first, than the high end, they will be rare for a bit.
honestly, amd didn't fail on bulldozer, assuming it was 5 years ago, they banked on processes being threaded by now, but sadly some crap software that everyone still uses is single thread. when you look at this in a multi thread environment, it preforms up to and above its price point.
if windows 8 really does handle threads (not cores) in a new way that also effect single core, you could very well see bulldozer be a recommended for future builds.
[citation][nom]ProDigit10[/nom]I am not so confident in the stability of 28nm chips yet! There's a reason both Intel, and AMD delayed their CPU batches to this size!I first want to see users use this chip for a couple of months, benchmarking it, see if it gives in to the stress . If it passes one full year of benchmarking, I might become interested.[/citation]
cost to manufacturer, yeilds were poor, so on and so forth. with intel, they have a new graphics solution and trigate, an not mature process, amd... well... their fab partner for cpu sucks, and they are moving to a different one.
you have to remember, amd has no qualms with locking cores on a bad chip to make it work right, so plan on seeing more low end cards first, than the high end, they will be rare for a bit.
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]so plan on seeing more low end cards first, than the high end, they will be rare for a bit.[/citation]
I'm expecting that launching of 7XXX will be same as of 6XXX. First will go 78XX, 77XX and 75XX and will share same architecture as 69XX but in 28nm process, while couple months later 79XX with Rambus XDR2 will be launched. Probably beside having GDDR5 78XX and lower spec chips will also support PCIE 2.1 and not 3.0
I'm expecting that launching of 7XXX will be same as of 6XXX. First will go 78XX, 77XX and 75XX and will share same architecture as 69XX but in 28nm process, while couple months later 79XX with Rambus XDR2 will be launched. Probably beside having GDDR5 78XX and lower spec chips will also support PCIE 2.1 and not 3.0
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[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]Last I heard the HD7900 series will be the only cards that incorporate GCN. The HD7800 series and below will use VLIW4, and are basically the HD6900 series manufactured at 28nm.[/citation]
This is also what personally infuriates me about a lot of the advances. For me, the most keenly-hoped-for feature in GCN is the rumored improvement to double-precision floating-point capability; VLIW4 technically only improved marginally over VLIW5, still leaving us with a 4:1 ratio, rather than the 2:1 ratio seen, for instance, with AVX, (in Bulldozer, at least; Sandy Bridge's implementation is a whole different bucket of fish) and the ideal degree. I groaned significantly when I learned that VLIW4 failed to hit the 2:1 ratio as each cluster of 4 SPs only contained a total of one set of units for a dual-precision FMA, leaving half the SPs idle whenever performing that.
Of course, I recognize that for low-end mainstream parts, dual-precision FP is entirely wasted and pointless. However, I think that it'd have a purpose outside of the pricier 7900-range series; the 7800s would likely be more popular, given their better price-performance ratio. The 7700s would be a tossup. Of course, this isn't that huge a market, as it'd likely go to a handful of amateur enthusiasts. But then again, these are likely scattered throughout the same segment that does still buy the 800s, and not just the 900s.
This is also what personally infuriates me about a lot of the advances. For me, the most keenly-hoped-for feature in GCN is the rumored improvement to double-precision floating-point capability; VLIW4 technically only improved marginally over VLIW5, still leaving us with a 4:1 ratio, rather than the 2:1 ratio seen, for instance, with AVX, (in Bulldozer, at least; Sandy Bridge's implementation is a whole different bucket of fish) and the ideal degree. I groaned significantly when I learned that VLIW4 failed to hit the 2:1 ratio as each cluster of 4 SPs only contained a total of one set of units for a dual-precision FMA, leaving half the SPs idle whenever performing that.
Of course, I recognize that for low-end mainstream parts, dual-precision FP is entirely wasted and pointless. However, I think that it'd have a purpose outside of the pricier 7900-range series; the 7800s would likely be more popular, given their better price-performance ratio. The 7700s would be a tossup. Of course, this isn't that huge a market, as it'd likely go to a handful of amateur enthusiasts. But then again, these are likely scattered throughout the same segment that does still buy the 800s, and not just the 900s.
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AND??? Why no news on this? Did AMD forget to show up on the 5th or what? AMD has nothing on the 7000 series on their website at all.
I'm still pissed due to the fact that there are still no AMD motherboards out with PCI Express 3.0 support.
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I hope they don't back out on the rambus thing. Its such a better way to do memory. Should throw it on all the future cards.
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