Question OK, now I guess its decision time.....

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Hi All, Perhaps the time to finally pull the trigger is upon me. My requirements are Adobe Lightroom and some gaming (at 1440p 60Hz).

I was considering the 9700K, but perhaps the 3700X would be preferable? Once the CPU decision is set, I can decide on an appropriate MB, RAM, etc.

Thanks in advance for the guidance.
 
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Thanks for the help, guys!

One of the reasons for the post is that I read somewhere that Adobe applications seem to 'favor' Intel CPUs....not sure if that is valid anymore.

Also, I was planning on 32GB of RAM as my catalog is quite large.
And finally, in looking at storage I was thinking a 500GB Samsung EVO Plus for W10 and applications, and a 1TB version for data....does this make sense?
 
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mdd1963 said:
with only a 60 Hz refresh monitor to contend with, it'd be hard to justify the increased cost of the 9700K , plus a cooler, just for the gaming aspect....
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It's hard to justify the system expense of 9700K at any resolution / refresh.

Remember that when 9700 beats it needs a $1200 graphic card to help do it and even then the delta is going to be inappreciable in use. But if you're chasing FPS for it's own sake, cost doesn't matter.

And from the productivity aspect, it's down-right fiscally irresponsible to waste cash on a 9700K system. Go for the threads...save money. The formula's simple.
 
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Wow....I guess....lol.

So, If I may.....from a speed and reliability perspective it is pretty universally understood that Samsung SSDs are bullet proof and fast. Why are the Intel SSDs less expensive? Speed? Reliability?

Also, why the MSI MB? I ask only to be more educated? There are many brands.....is that the best match for the CPU? If it matters I should mention, I don't need WiFi or RGB.
 
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TBH That board had low price point but active chipset cooling and pretty beefy VRM and decent VRM heat syncs. It was actually tied for the cheapest X570, but it is actually pretty good by the looks.

The 3700x draws a lot less power than a 2700x or 2600x, so you don't need a crazy motherboard. You could even go for a B450 board (like a B450 tomahawk) with BIOS reflash so you can update the bios to 3rd gen support without a 2nd gen cpu.

AMD Recommends 3600mhz ram, so that's where that choice came from.

The 3700x is better than the 9700x in creative workloads, so that's why it was chosen.
 
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Thanks for the explanation.

The MB sounds good...I think I will stick with the latest version as I may want to use some of the new features in the future (PCI 4.0). How is their Bios to work with? I know that I was considering the Gigabytes when looking at the 9700, but their Bios was considered very unfriendly.

RAM.....any specific part that you would recommend?

And finally, SSDs......Intel vs. Samsung?

Sorry for all the questions.....
 
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I haven't seen any benchmarks yet, but you might see a few MHz more than a 3700x which won't be worth the price increase.

The 3700x offers better value, hence why AMD sampled them instead of the 3800x.

If you are going to spend more on a CPU, step up to the 12 core for a real benefit.
 
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I had a feeling....thanks again.

FWIW, below is the parts list. For the extra $20 I liked the Samsung SSD.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB FTW2 GAMING iCX Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Auria - EQ276W 27.0" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
External Storage: Western Digital - My Book 4 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $813.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-09 16:33 EDT-0400
 
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vwcrusher said:
I had a feeling....thanks again.

FWIW, below is the parts list. For the extra $20 I liked the Samsung SSD.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB FTW2 GAMING iCX Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $0.00)
Monitor: Auria - EQ276W 27.0" 2560x1440 60 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
External Storage: Western Digital - My Book 4 TB External Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $813.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-09 16:33 EDT-0400
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That looks really nice! Good luck on your build if you've already pulled the trigger!
 
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remixislandmusic said:
Not anymore.

Look here, the 3700x outdoes the more expensive 9700x in lightroom, photoshop, photoshop panarama, and premier. It even gives the near $500 I9 9900k a run for its money in many cases.
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/93...reation-adobe-lightroom-photoshop-en-premiere

32gb 3600mhz ram looks good.

500gb ssd and 1tb ssd are good, but you could get a 2TB 660p NVME for 190 or a 1TB 660p for $95
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7M...2tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw020t8x1
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notice in web browsing (chrome) the 3700x and 3900x have gained 20%+ on the 2700x as well. In a lot of areas I am not impressed with the 3700x because it's not a HUGE leap above 2700x in any area, but it's nice that even in web browsing it gets that gain to be up there even above the 990k and not fa below the 9700k.
 
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