okay PC parts? (500 euro gaming)

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this is my freinds pc parts he is getting it built from a website but he gets to choose all the parts
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator/meinpc/1213763
HV20X430DE AMD FX-4300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ 71,33 €
HV1135RWDE ASRock 980DE3/U3S3, AM3+, ATX 49,34 €
HV20MI48DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 66,45 €
HV203U23DE Sharkoon VS3-Standard Rot, ohne Netzteil 20,90 €
HVR452CSDE Corsair VS Serie VS450, Non-Modular, 80+ 35,40 €
HV1039MUDE MSI R7 250X 1GD5, AMD Radeon R7 250X, 1GB DDR5 84,39 €
HV13TD56DE Toshiba DT01ACA Series 500GB, SATA 6Gb/s 40,26 €
HVSE8HW6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 477,96 €
(plus 12 euro delivery)
All prices are delivery prices

created with hardwareversand.de PC Configurator:
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator/meinpc/1213763
is this okay or should i change it
 
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This should leave enough to pick up windoz:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (€74.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
There's some evidence to suggest that dual core CPUs are more apt to have stuttering problems as they juggle modern heavily threaded games. If you do decide to go the Pentium route here, pair it with an AMD GPU to get the least threaded API/Driver stack. The 860K is better suited to be paired with nvidia drivers. There's also some evidence to suggest that some games may not even support dual core CPUs here soon.
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X+ BTC ATX FM2+ Motherboard (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:...
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You could get a much better PC. Obviously this one is more expensive, but there's a big jump from a lower end:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€87.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€32.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€62.66 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€70.39 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card (€158.81 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (€54.94 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.25 @ Hardwareversand)
Total: €580.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 15:34 CET+0100
 
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sadly he cant go any higher, i personally built a 1000 euro pc and have been telling him the same but his original budget was 420, because its money he saved up for the "next gen" consoles until i convinced him to go master race
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€87.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler (€22.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€52.45 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€70.39 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (€121.04 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€46.94 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Total: €496.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 21:23 CET+0100
 
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Alright here it is. Thank you guys for correcting me.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€87.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo 43.1 CFM CPU Cooler (€22.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€51.89 @ Pixmania DE)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (€70.39 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 260X 2GB TurboDuo Video Card (€121.04 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (€38.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€46.94 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Total: €494.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 22:57 CET+0100
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PERFORMANCE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€50.35 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€37.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card (€107.90 @ Caseking)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case (€38.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€46.94 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Other: Windows 7 Home Premium (€85.00)
Total: €481.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-25 17:12 CET+0100
 
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This should leave enough to pick up windoz:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor (€74.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
There's some evidence to suggest that dual core CPUs are more apt to have stuttering problems as they juggle modern heavily threaded games. If you do decide to go the Pentium route here, pair it with an AMD GPU to get the least threaded API/Driver stack. The 860K is better suited to be paired with nvidia drivers. There's also some evidence to suggest that some games may not even support dual core CPUs here soon.
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X+ BTC ATX FM2+ Motherboard (€61.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€43.98 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Since the build only has room for a 1x4GB stick, it's a good idea to pick out a DIMM that is configured dual rank for best performance. You'll loose channel interleave, but pick up rank interleave.
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€44.90 @ Caseking)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 1GB Video Card (€101.17 @ Amazon Deutschland)
AMD CPU's + Nvidia drivers/API optimizations are a good high value combination.
Case: Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case (€38.47 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 350W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€49.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €414.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-25 19:26 CET+0100
 
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would 4gb be enough for arma 2, skyrim or fallout 3 on mid to high settings
 
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HV20A86KDE AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition (95W), 4x 3.70GHz, boxed 69,37 €
HV1137RVDE ASRock FM2A88X+BTC, FM2+, ATX 64,04 €
HV20CO60DE 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz CL9 38,87 €
HV203U23DE Sharkoon VS3-Standard Rot, ohne Netzteil 20,90 €
HVR452CSDE Corsair VS Serie VS450, Non-Modular, 80+ 35,40 €
HV0700480701DE Sale: ASUS R7260X-DC2OC-2GD5, AMD Radeon R7 260X, 2GB DDR5 107,23 €
HV13TD56DE Toshiba DT01ACA Series 500GB, SATA 6Gb/s 40,26 €
HVSE8HW6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 485,96 €

All prices are delivery prices

created with hardwareversand.de PC Configurator:
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator
this is the new list based on the parts you gave, i find it cheaper and easier to go through just the one website
use this link to change stuff :http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator/meinpc/1214973
 
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Pretty sure all of those will run with 4GB, but an upgrade to 8GB (try to buy a matching stick) should be a high priority to enable both channel and rank interleave, as well as to free up memory space for future games.

It seems that in transition to the hardwareversand build, the build lost several key refinements that were purposely selected to help mitigate the major handicaps of the system. Use ballistix DIMMs for rank interleave from a single 4GB DIMM, and use a gtx750 or gtx650ti or similar to help counteract the weaker per-core performance of the 860K vs Intel options.
 
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HV20A76KDE AMD Athlon X4 760K Black Edition Box, 4x 3,80GHz, FM2 75,98 €
HV1137RVDE ASRock FM2A88X+BTC, FM2+, ATX 64,04 €
HV20MJ45DE 4GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3 PC3-14900 1866 41,63 €
HV203U23DE Sharkoon VS3-Standard Rot, ohne Netzteil 20,75 €
HVR452CSDE Corsair VS Serie VS450, Non-Modular, 80+ 35,39 €
HV103XFFDE MSI N650Ti-2GD5/OC, 2048MB, GDDR5 93,87 €
HV13TD56DE Toshiba DT01ACA Series 500GB, SATA 6Gb/s 40,22 €
HVSE8HW6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 481,77 €

All prices are delivery prices

created with hardwareversand.de PC Configurator:
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator

the 860k is not available, any other options?
should i go 6300, stay 760k or go with an intel
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator/meinpc/1215318
 
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HV20X630DE AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ 89,86 €
HV0702285601DE Sale: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0, AM3+, ATX 56,69 €
HV20MJ45DE 4GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical DDR3 PC3-14900 1866 41,63 €
HV203U23DE Sharkoon VS3-Standard Rot, ohne Netzteil 20,75 €
HVR452CSDE Corsair VS Serie VS450, Non-Modular, 80+ 35,39 €
HV103XFFDE MSI N650Ti-2GD5/OC, 2048MB, GDDR5 93,87 €
HV13TD56DE Toshiba DT01ACA Series 500GB, SATA 6Gb/s 40,22 €
HVSE8HW6DE OEM Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit inkl. Vorinstallation 79,90 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 488,30 €

All prices are delivery prices

created with hardwareversand.de PC Configurator:
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator

an example with the fx6300
 
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