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[addiarmadar]

I do get that artifacting issue to with my radeon 9800 ONLY in the nature test (water snows). Its is comfort that is just an anomoly with the 350 core and not a sign of burning it. Doesnt do it in anything else at all.

However could you give me the links for those XT bois and the flashers again? The fact that teh card will get more voltage will make those OC settings little more stable.

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[scottchen]

Bump...

Make this a sticky already.

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[scottchen]

bump...

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[TheGreatGrapeApe]

I have a question.

You can soft mod the R9500->R9700.

How do you mod my R9600-> R9800?

Just Curious if you could include that in the directions?


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[Willamette_sucks]

Addiarmadar! Whoa!! Slow down buddy. I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

You better turn your core down a bit or you are in danger of damaging it!

This is what I said: If you have an r350 core 9800p AND flash to the XT BIOS, you will get some artifacts (they do NOT look like snow!) in game tests 2 and 3 ONLY! (don't care who you are.)

If you're getting snow in nature, your core is too high. Nature 03 is the most sensitive thing to core OC's I've found, which is why you get snow in it and not other apps. Still, back down at least 5mhz.

Links are fixed! I just copy/pasted my post in normal reading mode... shoulda been in edit mode.. DOH!

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[scottchen]

bump...

make this a sticky!!!

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[addiarmadar]

Figures. Oh well, I just lucky to get the 350 core to do at lest the 360 for 200 dollars cheaper. Cant bitch there.

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[Baxter]

Does anyone know how to make a dosboot cd??

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128mb ATI Radeon 9800 Pro <font color=red>(430/376)</font color=red>
WD 80GB SE 7,200rpm
3D Mark03 Score <font color=red>6,100</font color=red>

 

[addiarmadar]

Should be in buring software like nero

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[Willamette_sucks]

Baxter, I'm replying to all your posts that ask this question.

The image file i linked to in my guide IS a dosboot cd. Just burn my image file, stick it in your computer, and boot up! It's all you need.

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Me: oh and I can provide money too
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[Baxter]

Yeah thx i just flashed it and i can oc it more and have a 700 point increase in 3D Mark 03

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WD 80GB SE 7,200rpm
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[andyb]

I cant even get my 9800pro to run at stock XT speeds i get little amounts of snow in the 3dmark03 mother nature tests. Would it be possible to flash it still and just underclock it, but still see a performance increase?

My system:
AMD 2800xp+
1gig ram
ABIT NF7 rev. 2.0 NF2 mobo
WD 120gig 8mb cache
Hercules 9800pro
Coolmaster praetorian case
400 watt FSP sparkle PSU

 

[scottchen]

raise your VAGP a little, maybe 1.7 it'll help a little bit.

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[andyb]

Wouldnt that overheat it more? i thought that the snow was becuase it is running to hot anyway?

My system:
AMD 2800xp+
1gig ram
ABIT NF7 rev. 2.0 NF2 mobo
WD 120gig 8mb cache
Hercules 9800pro
Coolmaster praetorian case
400 watt FSP sparkle PSU

 

[scottchen]

snow is most likely either heat or voltage issue. Raise your voltage, if it's gone means it was voltage issue, if it's still there then turn the VAGP back down, means it's heat issue.

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[Baxter]

Dosnt that damage the card??

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128mb ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (439/374)
3D Mark03 Score <font color=red>6,316</font color=red>

 

[Willamette_sucks]

Technically yeah, it lessens the life of your card. It shouldn't damage anything (quickly) unless it gets really hot. If you have good case temps (good case airflow) and/or good aftermarket cooling on your video card, heat shouldn't be a problem.

It's like smoking, it's 'hurting' you, but it dosn't 'hurt' you. It hurts you over time. Same with increased voltage.

However, increased voltage = good, smoking = bad

Me: are you saying I can't provide?
Me: cause I know I can provide.
Me: oh and I can provide money too
Rachel: why do we need money when we can just stay in our room and have sex all day?

 

[andyb]

Raised the AGP voltage to 1.6v, not willing to put it up any higher, i ran 3dmark03 nature test 3 times (looped) and still got snow so it definatly is a heat issue, looks like if i want 2 get a good oc then il have to get a VGA silencer or the zalaman thingy.

My system:
AMD 2800xp+
1gig ram
ABIT NF7 rev. 2.0 NF2 mobo
WD 120gig 8mb cache
Hercules 9800pro
Coolmaster praetorian case
400 watt FSP sparkle PSU

 

[addiarmadar]

What I have been seeing from those Bios is this for e-die chips. I have the samsung 313 chips on mine. What do they mean e-die?

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1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/730)

 

[addiarmadar]

Never mind I got the flasher and reading up on it.

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ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/730)

 

[Willamette_sucks]

"BUMP"

Me: are you saying I can't provide?
Me: cause I know I can provide.
Me: oh and I can provide money too
Rachel: why do we need money when we can just stay in our room and have sex all day?

 

[addiarmadar]

Ok Just flashed my agp with the BBA 9800XT samsung bios and seems it went smoothly. I did notice the artifacting from test 2,3, and Ragtroll tell in 3dmark03 but no other test. It looked like the outlinings of the graphical shapes, thats the glitch right? I did get a 300 point boost in 3dmark03 but 3dmark01 and aquamark3 stayed the same. Im still at stock of 412/730 right now. Going on to try CoD now and will report what I get.

Mobile Barton 2500+ @ 2420mhz 11x220 1.7v
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/730)

 

[addiarmadar]

Well it is like echos of things or duplicates from lighting for shadowing. Only that they are only an 3d outline of them. Those outlines are black and not very linear. The lines of the outline are compose of triangles or half squares. Wish I can make a snapshot of the annomoly in progress

No other test or game has replicated this annomoly, just test 2,3, and ragtroll in 3dmark03. Also I do not get any snow in the nature test and could get the core to do even more without the snow but Im going there yet. Im not fully certain what the XT bios does different than the pro bios so I cannot explain this annomoly. Looks like to be a ram issue and possible the timming are tightened in this bios. I can only guess at this point...

Mobile Barton 2500+ @ 2420mhz 11x220 1.7v
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/730)

 

[Willamette_sucks]

That's a pretty good description of the artifacts in 3dmark 03 resulting from an XT flash to an r350 card.

I get the exact same thing. You see the outline (as described by addiarmadar) of geometry data relative to a moving light source. This geometry data can be things not even visible in the scene.

The best example I can think of is 3dmark 03 game test 3 (trolls lair), in which the outline of the spiral stairwell is visible while the camera is still located in the outside room. As her sword (the active light source) moves, the spiral staircase rotates around a point.

Me: are you saying I can't provide?
Me: cause I know I can provide.
Me: oh and I can provide money too
Rachel: why do we need money when we can just stay in our room and have sex all day?

 

[addiarmadar]

Precisely what I am talking about. I treid looking this up with Futremark with no luck. Any word when they will fix this glitch?

Mobile Barton 2500+ @ 2420mhz 11x220 1.7v
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/730)