[SOLVED] One WiFi name and powered them over ethernet ?

[lolzdizzyea]

I wanted to expand wifi coverage in my home (4 Bedrooms) and I wanted to use 2 or 3 wireless access points and hang them in my ceiling and I wanted them to power over ethernet.

This is what I wanted but the problem is that the Deco linep does not power over ethernet. They all need a separate adapter. Since I am having them on my ceiling, PoE is convenient for me.

There is also the EAP product from TP-Link and are PoE
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-EAP110-300Mbps-Wireless-Ceiling/dp/B00V4BGE7C

But if I installed 2 EAP, my concern is if they will have 2 wifi names and will not automatically switch/roam to the nearest.

Please help.

 

[bill001g]

I always like this picture. They don't show the stupid guy who "seamless" roams and falls down the steps while watching netflix. I mean people walk into traffic staring at the cell phones.

Do you actually need "seamless" roaming. Even the so called mesh systems are not really seamless.

Roaming is all controlled by the end device. No matter how fancy these mesh systems are the end device decides when it want to switch and what it connects to when it switches. The so called mesh systems can only do things like force disconnect the device and hope it picks better.

What you want to do is the way enterprise installs are done. No large company uses silly mesh systems. Now there are systems to help manage large numbers of AP from one central control but this is mostly just configuration of things like radio power it does not control roaming.

Pretty much you use AP connected via ethernet that you can also run PoE. This is the main reason you pay extra for a actual AP rather than use a router as a AP.

You can assign all the AP the same SSID if you want to. The end device will then automatically switch...or not if it is stupid. Key here is to adjust the signal levels of AP so you have as little overlap as possible. Most the problem is the signal overlap too much so the end device will stay with a poor but usable connection even though there is a better choice. It does this for stability because it does not have separate radio chip to scan for other wifi sources without disrupting the connection. It pretty much is purely on signal level. When it drops below a certain level it will look for another source.

So key here is careful placement of your devices and adjusting the radio power to give optimum coverage without any unnecessary overlap. This is key to get roaming working. It is a lot of effort which is why it is sometimes easier to have the person do the roaming. You just stop and start the client and it will connect to the nearest source. The person doing the roaming is also why you might use different SSID since the person might know why a particular AP is better than the other one and he can force a connection with different SSID.

 

[lolzdizzyea]

My home is 40 x 40 feet with 4 bedrooms. I need Wifi for phones that is it. Will the EAP 115 be enough if I put it in the centre? I don't know the range of these. Wall partitions will be bricks and cement.

EAP 115
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-EAP110-300Mbps-Wireless-Ceiling/dp/B00V4BGE7C

What is the difference between EAP225 and EAP 115? which one should I choose? The price is quite high compared to EAP 115.
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-EAP225-Wireless-Gigabit-Ceiling/dp/B01LLAK1UG

Also Planning to Power it via POE with this one TL-SF1006P. Hope it works?
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-Ethernet-Shielded-Priority-TL-SF1006P/dp/B08DP22ZRM/

Please review my links and my plans. I just need it for youtube and browsing no wifi dead zone. I'll have dedicated LAN ports for PC.

Picture of my suggested house.

 

[kanewolf]

My home is 40 x 40 feet with 4 bedrooms. I need Wifi for phones that is it. Will the EAP 115 be enough if I put it in the centre? I don't know the range of these. Wall partitions will be bricks and cement.

EAP 115
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-EAP110-300Mbps-Wireless-Ceiling/dp/B00V4BGE7C

What is the difference between EAP225 and EAP 115? which one should I choose? The price is quite high compared to EAP 115.
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-EAP225-Wireless-Gigabit-Ceiling/dp/B01LLAK1UG

Also Planning to Power it via POE with this one TL-SF1006P. Hope it works?
https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-Ethernet-Shielded-Priority-TL-SF1006P/dp/B08DP22ZRM/

Please review my links and my plans. I just need it for youtube and browsing no wifi dead zone. I'll have dedicated LAN ports for PC.

First DON'T buy the EAP 110 or EAP115. They are both 2.4Ghz ONLY devices. The minimum would be the EAP 225 and the recommended would be the EAP245.
Will they cover your house? Unknown. The better approach is to install MULTIPLE WIFI sources. Install WIFI where the devices are mostly located. Living room, master suite, kids rooms etc.
With multiple APs, you do want a POE switch. But not the SF1006P. It is a 100Mbit device. You want gigabit, something like this -- https://www.amazon.in/TP-Link-Protection-Rackmount-Prioritized-TL-SG1008MP/dp/B07TX5CX37

 

[bill001g]

Hard to say when you have concrete walls. It to a point depends on how much the signal can bounce around the walls and go though maybe a door or something.
There is no way to predict this you would have to test it.

If this was a house with drywall interior walls you likely would have no issues with a single central radio source. I am somewhat surprised they get 4 bedrooms in a house that small but I assume this is in India.

The main difference is the second unit is using 802.11ac which is newer but still one version back from the latest 802.11ax (wifi6). The second unit will be much faster if your internet is faster. The wifi on the first unit you likely will not get much over about 50mbps. The second one you could get rates to about 300mbps.

Another thing to watch out for is PoE unfortunately does not have a single meaning. The industry standard is called 803.af and any device that runs that in compatible with say a switch like you talk about. The first repeater only runs passive poe which means you must use a power injector and can not power it from the switch.
The second unit can run either so you could power it with the switch. In both cases it appears they come with the power injectors so you do not have to buy a switch that can power them.

Can't really comment on price in india. The prices are crazy sometimes. You would think it would be cheaper in a country that has a lower income level but they are actually higher in many cases.

 

[lolzdizzyea]

With multiple APs

If I go with multiple EAP245 or the 115, I ran into the problem of having 2 different wifi names and need to switch manually from my phone if I am not mistaken. I did not like this.

 

[kanewolf]

If I go with multiple EAP245 or the 115, I ran into the problem of having 2 different wifi names and need to switch manually from my phone if I am not mistaken. I did not like this.

That is strictly a configuration. You can have the same SSID (WIFI name) or different. I have never used the EAP hardware so I don't know the process for configuring.