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Kind of scary when you think about it. There's a knock on your door at
2am, and when you open it, there's 20 special forces guys covering your
house. :) Who wants to cheat now?!?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/20/news_6116787.html

America's Army, funded by the US Army (and, ultimately, taxpayer dollars),
features realistic and deadly combat in a variety of military settings.
While it's free for public use, some players have taken advantage of
security holes in the software; specific hacks have not been disclosed. The
game has some 4.5 million registered users.

DeLuca threatened hackers, saying, "We know who you are, and can track down
where you play from," according to Information Week. "The Army has partners
that deal with cyber crime as a matter of course. These include not just
various Army IT departments, but also the Department of Justice, the Secret
Service, and the Federal Bureau of Investigations." His post has since been
removed from the forums.

An America's Army developer, posting to the forums as "Skyhuntr," told
users, "[We] are currently working this issue. I am privy to the efforts
going on behind the scenes and they are extensive. We expect that you will
see the results of these efforts soon."
 
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Shouldn't the army have better things to be spending money on?


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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:54:03 GMT, "One Punch Mickey"
<fantantiddlyspan@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>Shouldn't the army have better things to be spending money on?

I think this could be their #1 priority - namely, recruiting. AA has
always been about getting access to potential recruits...


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atheist #2007
 
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

not related to what you wrote cause i don't have anything to add...
the army going after gamers only cause they cheated online is a little
bit ridiculous... but what i wanted to ask was
why didn't you reply to my poll about how many games you own?
i really was curious to know, you must have many, but you hate "boxes"
"cd-roms" and "cases" so much, so i wonder if you put them all in file
in some external store with huge capacity
it can't be only cause i classified "electronic distribution" games
as second class ones? lets face it, its value will be always lower
than games in "boxes"

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First the drug war, now this. We here in the US spend more on our military
that THE REST OF THE WORLD spends on their militaries COMBINED.... Maybe we
can worry side issues like healthcare and decline of the working wage after
we solve all these bigger problems like catching the game cheaters.

mus..t... ree..sist... .. urge... t.o... rant.....

"OldDog" <OldDog@citypound.com> wrote in message
news:lh0Id.43084$Ta2.14541@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Kind of scary when you think about it. There's a knock on your door at
> 2am, and when you open it, there's 20 special forces guys covering your
> house. :) Who wants to cheat now?!?
>
> http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/20/news_6116787.html
>
> America's Army, funded by the US Army (and, ultimately, taxpayer dollars),
> features realistic and deadly combat in a variety of military settings.
> While it's free for public use, some players have taken advantage of
> security holes in the software; specific hacks have not been disclosed.
The
> game has some 4.5 million registered users.
>
> DeLuca threatened hackers, saying, "We know who you are, and can track
down
> where you play from," according to Information Week. "The Army has
partners
> that deal with cyber crime as a matter of course. These include not just
> various Army IT departments, but also the Department of Justice, the
Secret
> Service, and the Federal Bureau of Investigations." His post has since
been
> removed from the forums.
>
> An America's Army developer, posting to the forums as "Skyhuntr," told
> users, "[We] are currently working this issue. I am privy to the efforts
> going on behind the scenes and they are extensive. We expect that you will
> see the results of these efforts soon."
>
>
 
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Thusly "OldDog" <OldDog@citypound.com> Spake Unto All:

>Kind of scary when you think about it. There's a knock on your door at
>2am, and when you open it, there's 20 special forces guys covering your
>house. :) Who wants to cheat now?!?
>
>http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/01/20/news_6116787.html

It's just desperation. The game is being killed by cheaters,
Punkbuster has zero effect, and this guy is venting.

Much as I'd enjoy seeing dawn raids against cheaters, it's not going
to happen.
 
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Alex wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:54:03 GMT, "One Punch Mickey"
> <fantantiddlyspan@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Shouldn't the army have better things to be spending money on?
>
>
> I think this could be their #1 priority - namely, recruiting. AA has
> always been about getting access to potential recruits...

Depends on the amount of beer.
 
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One Punch Mickey wrote:
> Shouldn't the army have better things to be spending money on?
>
>

Yeah, like bombing foreign countries or something. Oh. Maybe they have
more money than they can use?
 
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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> not related to what you wrote cause i don't have anything to add...
> the army going after gamers only cause they cheated online is a little
> bit ridiculous... but what i wanted to ask was
> why didn't you reply to my poll about how many games you own?
> i really was curious to know, you must have many, but you hate "boxes"
> "cd-roms" and "cases" so much, so i wonder if you put them all in file
> in some external store with huge capacity
> it can't be only cause i classified "electronic distribution" games
> as second class ones? lets face it, its value will be always lower
> than games in "boxes"
>
> ps you didn't respond

I read your poll. IMHO it appeared to be an "anti-steam" posting thinly
disguised as a "gaming poll".

ps It's ok that some folks don't like Steam. I don't like the fact that
trees were used in the making of pc game boxes. Or that fossil fuel was
used to deliver them to the stores.
 
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No.The Army's biggest problem and highest priority right now is recruitment.
The games they make are considered recruitment tools.

>Shouldn't the army have better things to be spending money on?
>
 
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

> I read your poll. IMHO it appeared to be an "anti-steam" posting thinly
> disguised as a "gaming poll".

oh yes it is! its anti-steam motivated! its all about anti-steam!
you already know me... i never try to run away from the truth which is,
my main purpose when writing to this group is anti-steam, cause games
i real don't have that much to add, basically any game satisfies me

> ps It's ok that some folks don't like Steam. I don't like the fact that
> trees were used in the making of pc game boxes. Or that fossil fuel was
> used to deliver them to the stores.

oh! wait a minute... that's a new one!
now your motivation is the environment!
every day a new excuse for steam...
so the NEW EXCUSE for steam is SAVING MOTHER EARTH???? HAHAHAHA!!!!!
man you are really funny!!!!
now there's a good joke!!!!
hahahaha!!!!!

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i said "NO" to valve and steam

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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > I read your poll. IMHO it appeared to be an "anti-steam" posting
thinly
> > disguised as a "gaming poll".
>
> oh yes it is! its anti-steam motivated! its all about anti-steam!
> you already know me... i never try to run away from the truth which is,
> my main purpose when writing to this group is anti-steam, cause games
> i real don't have that much to add, basically any game satisfies me
>
> > ps It's ok that some folks don't like Steam. I don't like the fact
that
> > trees were used in the making of pc game boxes. Or that fossil fuel was
> > used to deliver them to the stores.
>
> oh! wait a minute... that's a new one!
> now your motivation is the environment!
> every day a new excuse for steam...
> so the NEW EXCUSE for steam is SAVING MOTHER EARTH???? HAHAHAHA!!!!!
> man you are really funny!!!!
> now there's a good joke!!!!
> hahahaha!!!!!
>

You're making a joke out of the environment? 🙁
 
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

> You're making a joke out of the environment? 🙁

obviously no! obviously i'm not making a joke out of the environment!
i would never do that!
my laugh was about you getting a fresh new excuse each time we discuss
steam... you started by excusing steam for your own home space problem
then it was cause sierra was very evil, then it was cause you were too
lazy to go to the store, and finally its all cause of the environment!
a new fresh excuse each time!
that's why i laughed
i'll anxiously wait for your next steam excuse so i can laugh a bit more!

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i said "NO" to valve and steam

please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > You're making a joke out of the environment? 🙁
>
> obviously no! obviously i'm not making a joke out of the environment!
> i would never do that!
> my laugh was about you getting a fresh new excuse each time we discuss
> steam... you started by excusing steam for your own home space problem
> then it was cause sierra was very evil, then it was cause you were too
> lazy to go to the store, and finally its all cause of the environment!
> a new fresh excuse each time!
> that's why i laughed
> i'll anxiously wait for your next steam excuse so i can laugh a bit more!
>

I'll see if I can help you. But it might take me a few weeks. I'm not as
sharp as I use to be now that I'm older. 🙁

BTW How much time do you spend online a month; and what's the cost you
have to pay? Or better yet, what's the "charge per min" to be online with
a dialup modem in your country?
 
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

> I'll see if I can help you. But it might take me a few weeks. I'm not as

come on! i didn't say that!
what i said was you like steam so much you put on purpose issues not
relevant to games to run away from the wrong doing valve does

environment is one of the top 5 issues in the world
but its not relevant to games, or to steam!
please lets be reasonable and admit you only talked about environment
cause you lack arguments to deny the evil steam is

> BTW How much time do you spend online a month; and what's the cost you

you know the REAL issue about steam in not about money or about the
internet connection
the issue with steam is much more important, its about freedom itself!
so please don't try and reduce steam as money only related matter, cause
its false!

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i said "NO" to valve and steam

please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
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"difool" <john.difool@mail.telepac.pt> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > I'll see if I can help you. But it might take me a few weeks. I'm
not as
>
> come on! i didn't say that!
> what i said was you like steam so much you put on purpose issues not
> relevant to games to run away from the wrong doing valve does
>
> environment is one of the top 5 issues in the world
> but its not relevant to games, or to steam!
> please lets be reasonable and admit you only talked about environment
> cause you lack arguments to deny the evil steam is
>

There's a sand box in my back yard. Let's stick our heads in it.

> > BTW How much time do you spend online a month; and what's the cost
you
>
> you know the REAL issue about steam in not about money or about the
> internet connection
> the issue with steam is much more important, its about freedom itself!
> so please don't try and reduce steam as money only related matter, cause
> its false!
>

You're reading way too much into my question. The subject line above is
"Online Cheaters Beware". Not Steam. But since you and I were chatting,
and you have mentioned that it cost you by the min in some prior postings, I
was just "wondering" what the cost was in your country.

I was hoping that you could enlighten me as to what the ave Joe gamer in
your country was paying per min to be online. Nothing more.
 
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