Opinion on my FIRST build.

noobonwheels

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Hey guys, so I'm kinda new to this. I've been playing games for years now, but have just been using pre-made computers and finally gathered enough cash to make my own. I've got a limit of around $3k to spend(but still very flexible) on EVERYTHING; components, monitor, mouse etc (I'll be only using 1 Monitor). So after about a week of "researching" I've got my build. I'd like to make this build be able to last for at least 3-4years. I'm a complete noob about running multiply GPU's and Overclocking. Please give me your opinions and let me know if I'm missing anything. Appreciate any help. Thanks

I don't know which motherboard and GPU to pick.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
MOBO: Asus P8Z68-V Pro Z68
Gigabyte Z68X-UD7-B3
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3 8G Kit(4Gx2) DDR3 1600
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1563MB
EVGA GeForce GTX 580SC 1563MB
EVGA GeForce GTX 580 3072MB
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120gb
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Drive: Pioneer DVR-219L DVDRW
PSU: Corsair TX750 750W Power Supply
Case: Antec Twelve Hundred v3
 

michxymi

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No need to go with multiple GPU setup, with one monitor. A good single GPU (at this budget we are talking for atleast 6950 and up) can handle every single game in the market, with ultra settings and absolutely playable frames.


Also you don't need to spend 3K $. With around 1000-1500$ you will have a great computer, and you can keep the rest for feature upgrades. I will post my build in a min.
 

Play some BF3 on max settings when it comes out or even Metro and tell us about how many FPS you got on those games with a single 6950.
 

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~50 FPS at Max Settings AAA/16xAF at 1920x1200 aren't enough for you??
 

Ya I find that pretty amazing seeing how most reviews of that card show it averaging more like 40fps on Metro 2033. Now seeing how they have had more than a few people who beta tested BF3 tell us that you can't max that game out with a single gtx 580 it seems highly unlikely that a single 6950 is going to max it out.

With the OPs budget, he can afford a 120hz monitor and dual whatever he chooses. If you have that budget, then play everything on max and put that 120hz monitor to use.
 

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http://www.techspot.com/review/349-amd-radeon-6950/page10.html
 

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I dont think the OP was looking to use multiple cards.

He said he cant choose which mobo or GPU to go for, so he's listed 3 different GPU's and 2 different Mobos.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
MOBO: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3 8G Kit(4Gx2) DDR3 1600
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1563MB
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Drive: Pioneer DVR-219L DVDRW
PSU: Corsair TX750 750W Power Supply
Case: Antec Twelve Hundred v3

^ Is a solid build. Id hardly call it a "mess".

As "michxymi" did state though, you can build a very good computer that will play games with maxed out settings for alot less than $3k

Also, Why_Me is right about Metro, Frame Rate from benchmarks ive seen show from about 32-40FPS. Nothing as high as 50 though.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/13
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_hd6970_hd6950_review/8.htm
 

michxymi

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If that build can't max out BF3, they should really work with their graphics...
 

AdrianPerry

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I dont believe i said it wouldn't max about BF3.

Early news i heard said a 570 was plenty to max it, so even a nicely overclocked 560Ti should have little problem.

The Deus Ex news here on TOMs showed the difference the CPU is making in newer games, with games being much more CPU intensive. I dont doubt that BF3 will follow the same path.
 

A few beta testers here on Toms posted that their single gtx 580 wouldn't max that game out on high settings. Crysis was the same way when it first came out. Peeps had to break the bank to play that game, that's why I skipped it. Any time you have to dump that much money into vid cards just to play a bloody game...well there's other games out there that don't force peeps to go broke just to play it.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that expensive board that's meant for dual vid cards...well that 750w psu isn't about to push dual 580's. So the OP either gets another psu, or a single card board.
 

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No you're not wrong. But if he goes for dual cards, for me, he has too go with dual monitors too.
 

noobonwheels

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Thanks for all your replies. Only reason I've said $3000 was because i need to purchase a monitor, keyboard mouse, etc. aswell. But I do want all my components to have bang for their buck. I'm willing to get a second GPU if it will actually make a difference. As I stated, I'm all new to this.
 

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Oh, I didn't know that board was made for dual vids. I'm willing to spend the extra cash if the 2nd vid card will be worth it. Should I run dual 580's then? Or choose another vid card to use? Also what power supply would you recommend for the changes?
 

What country are you in. US, Canada, and Australia all use dollars so if we know what country your in, we can take it from there.
 

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This will be able to maxx out BF3. Just dont spend too much on the processor now, wait for Ivy Bridge.

Processor : i3 2100
MOBO: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3 8G Kit(4Gx2) DDR3 1600
GPU: 2 x XFX HD-695X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 120GB
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU: Corsair AX750 850W Power Supply
Case: Antec Twelve Hundred v3

Get a Ivy Bridge processor next year if you find i3 weak in general tasks. (Its quite a nice gaming processor)
 


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_226&products_id=16143 $157.00
Antec High Current Gamer 900W Power Supply HCG-900

PCI-E 3.0 boards down below.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=18137 $149.00
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=18041 $209.00
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=18136 $319.00
ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=1155 <---- the boards that say Gen3 have the PCI-E 3.0 slots

With your budget, and dual gtx 580's, anything less than this monitor down below would be a bloody shame imo.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=558_1210&products_id=18232 $399.00
Samsung S23A750 23in 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor
 

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You're a great help. I think I'll go with the AsRock Z68 Extreme 4 Gen 3, it got a good review when compared to the Asus P8Z68-V Pro.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-z68-extreme4-asus-p8z68-v-pro-gigabyte-z68x-ud3h-b3,2939.html

That screen looks amazing. I had no idea on how to choose the correct monitor, thank you so much. What PSU should I get now with the changes?
 

That Antec 900w psu I linked up above will work just fine. Also if your looking to save a few dollars, that Asrock extreme3 gen3 up above just came out a few days ago, and it's a winner.
 

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Oh, didn't click the first link. What dual GPU's do you think I should run? Stick with 2x EVGA GeForce GTX 580 1563MB or 2x Radeon HD 6950 1GB. I'm looking for performance, but there's no point wasting money for miniscule improvements
 

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Two 6970 2GB