[SOLVED] Opinions and suggestions on this Radeon 6700 xt build

[bagruz]

Hello everyone. I have no experience in building PC, so i would be glad to see your advice. I'm buying this PC for gaming. I already have a 1920 x 1080 monitor and i'm not going to change it in the near future.

Case: Fractal Design Focus G White

Motherboard: ASRock B650 Pro RS

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X

GPU: Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT

Cooling: DeepCool LS520 White

RAM: Kingston Technology FURY Beast DDR5 5600MHz 32G (2x16GB)

SSD: SSD 1Tb Kingston NV2 (SNV2S/1000G)

Power supply: 850W Super Flower Leadex Gold III ARGB


It would like to see your general opinion on this build and also have some certain questions:
I chose the cheapest B650 motherboard because of the price and lots of USB ports. Would this cheapness play a negative role in the efficiency of the system?
Does the CPU fit the system, or i should consider other options, for instance AMD Ryzen 7 7700X?
I learnt on liquid cooling systems only yesterday, so I'm not sure about this choice either.
Thank you for your replies.

 

[Aeacus]

I chose the cheapest B650 motherboard because of the price and lots of USB ports. Would this cheapness play a negative role in the efficiency of the system?

Cheap price = low build quality and questionable reliability. And for MoBo also, lower amount of VRM phases (meaning that, either: you can't OC your CPU as high as you'd like or your CPU has issues with it's boot frequency).
Further reading: https://www.cgdirector.com/motherboard-affect-performance/

So, if you don't care about MoBo reliability and are willing to face CPU boost or CPU OC issues, sure, go with the cheapest MoBo you can find.

Does the CPU fit the system, or i should consider other options, for instance AMD Ryzen 7 7700X?

It works.

And unless you need the extra 2 cores of 7700X, offered over 7600X, no point wasting money for 7700X,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-7600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7700X/4130vs4131

I learnt on liquid cooling systems only yesterday, so I'm not sure about this choice either.

I, personally, am not fond with AIO water coolers.

As far as AIOs vs air coolers go, you won't gain any cooling performance if you go with AIO over air cooler since both are cooled by ambient air.
For equal cooling performance between AIOs and air coolers, rad needs to be 240mm or 280mm. Smaller rads: 120mm and 140mm are almost always outperformed by mid-sized air coolers. Single slot rads are good in mini-ITX builds where you don't have enough CPU cooler clearance to install mid-sized CPU air cooler.

Here are the positive sides of both (air and AIO) CPU cooling methods;

Pros of air coolers:
less cost
less maintenance
less noise
far longer longevity
no leakage risks
doesn't take up case fan slots
additional cooling for the RAM
CPU cools down faster after heavy heat output

Pros of AIOs:
no RAM clearance issues*
no CPU clearance issues
CPU takes longer time to heat up during heavy heat output (about 30 mins)
* on some cases, top mounted rad can give RAM clearance issues

While how the CPU cooler looks inside the PC depends on a person. Some people prefer to see small AIO pump in the middle of their MoBo with tubing going to the rad while others prefer to see big heatsink with fans in the middle of their MoBo.

Main difference between AIO and air cooler is that with AIO, you'll get more noise at a higher cost while cooling performance remains the same.
Here's also one good article for you to read where king of air coolers (Noctua NH-D15) was put against 5x high-end AIOs, including former king of AIOs (NZXT x61 Kraken),
link: http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1

Personally, i'd go with air coolers every day of the week. With same cooling performance, the pros of air coolers outweigh the pros of AIOs considerably. While, for me, the 3 main pros would be:
1. Less noise.
Since i like my PC to be quiet, i can't stand the loud noise AIO makes. Also, when air gets trapped inside the AIO (some AIOs are more prone to this than others), there's additional noise coming from inside the pump.
2. Longevity.
Cheaper AIOs usually last 2-3 years and high-end ones 4-5 years before you need to replace it. While with air coolers, their life expectancy is basically unlimited. Only thing that can go bad on an air cooler is the fan on it. If the fan dies, your CPU still has cooling in form of a big heatsink. Also, new 120mm or 140mm fan doesn't cost much and it's easy to replace one. While with AIOs, the main thing that usually goes bad is the pump itself. And when that happens, your CPU has no cooling whatsoever. Since you can't replace pump on an AIO, you need to buy whole new AIO to replace the old one out.
3. No leakage risks.
Since there's liquid circling inside the AIO, there is always a risk that your AIO can leak. While it's rare, it has happened. It's well known fact that liquids and electronics don't mix.

Power supply: 850W Super Flower Leadex Gold III ARGB

You're one of the few who actually gets a good PSU. Most people often cheap out on PSU and end up paying the price down the line.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

^^Very comprehensive answer. Nice

 

[bagruz]

Cheap price = low build quality and questionable reliability. And for MoBo also, lower amount of VRM phases (meaning that, either: you can't OC your CPU as high as you'd like or your CPU has issues with it's boot frequency).
Further reading: https://www.cgdirector.com/motherboard-affect-performance/

So, if you don't care about MoBo reliability and are willing to face CPU boost or CPU OC issues, sure, go with the cheapest MoBo you can find.



It works.

And unless you need the extra 2 cores of 7700X, offered over 7600X, no point wasting money for 7700X,
comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-7600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7700X/4130vs4131



I, personally, am not fond with AIO water coolers.

As far as AIOs vs air coolers go, you won't gain any cooling performance if you go with AIO over air cooler since both are cooled by ambient air.
For equal cooling performance between AIOs and air coolers, rad needs to be 240mm or 280mm. Smaller rads: 120mm and 140mm are almost always outperformed by mid-sized air coolers. Single slot rads are good in mini-ITX builds where you don't have enough CPU cooler clearance to install mid-sized CPU air cooler.

Here are the positive sides of both (air and AIO) CPU cooling methods;

Pros of air coolers:
less cost
less maintenance
less noise
far longer longevity
no leakage risks
doesn't take up case fan slots
additional cooling for the RAM
CPU cools down faster after heavy heat output

Pros of AIOs:
no RAM clearance issues*
no CPU clearance issues
CPU takes longer time to heat up during heavy heat output (about 30 mins)
* on some cases, top mounted rad can give RAM clearance issues

While how the CPU cooler looks inside the PC depends on a person. Some people prefer to see small AIO pump in the middle of their MoBo with tubing going to the rad while others prefer to see big heatsink with fans in the middle of their MoBo.

Main difference between AIO and air cooler is that with AIO, you'll get more noise at a higher cost while cooling performance remains the same.
Here's also one good article for you to read where king of air coolers (Noctua NH-D15) was put against 5x high-end AIOs, including former king of AIOs (NZXT x61 Kraken),
link: http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1

Personally, i'd go with air coolers every day of the week. With same cooling performance, the pros of air coolers outweigh the pros of AIOs considerably. While, for me, the 3 main pros would be:
1. Less noise.
Since i like my PC to be quiet, i can't stand the loud noise AIO makes. Also, when air gets trapped inside the AIO (some AIOs are more prone to this than others), there's additional noise coming from inside the pump.
2. Longevity.
Cheaper AIOs usually last 2-3 years and high-end ones 4-5 years before you need to replace it. While with air coolers, their life expectancy is basically unlimited. Only thing that can go bad on an air cooler is the fan on it. If the fan dies, your CPU still has cooling in form of a big heatsink. Also, new 120mm or 140mm fan doesn't cost much and it's easy to replace one. While with AIOs, the main thing that usually goes bad is the pump itself. And when that happens, your CPU has no cooling whatsoever. Since you can't replace pump on an AIO, you need to buy whole new AIO to replace the old one out.
3. No leakage risks.
Since there's liquid circling inside the AIO, there is always a risk that your AIO can leak. While it's rare, it has happened. It's well known fact that liquids and electronics don't mix.




You're one of the few who actually gets a good PSU. Most people often cheap out on PSU and end up paying the price down the line.

Thank you for your thorough answer. I think I'll change this MoBo to MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI since MSI looks a more reliable manufacturer to me (just emotional perception), and also will take be quiet! 250W TDP Dark Rock Pro 4 instead of the water cooler.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's a few cost cutters.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 $229.00

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-7600-cpu-review

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Review - Affordable Zen 4 for the Masses

Ryzen 5 7600 is AMD's most-affordable Zen 4 processor. It retails for only $230 and even comes with a heatsink. The testing in our review confirms that the performance difference to the more-expensive 7600X is minimal, and gaming performance even beats the 5800X3D.

www.techpowerup.com

https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-ag620-wh-argb/p/N82E16835856226
DeepCool AG620 WH ARGB Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $57.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ag620-air-cooler

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16083.shtml

Low profile RAM so it doesn't impede the cpu cooler. Check Amazon also for this RAM using PC Partpicker.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374332
G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 (White) $119.95

Rear exhaust fan for that case so it doesn't become a hotbox.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081VPP24C
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan (White) $9.19

 

[bagruz]

Here's a few cost cutters.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 $229.00

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-7600-cpu-review

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Review - Affordable Zen 4 for the Masses

Ryzen 5 7600 is AMD's most-affordable Zen 4 processor. It retails for only $230 and even comes with a heatsink. The testing in our review confirms that the performance difference to the more-expensive 7600X is minimal, and gaming performance even beats the 5800X3D.

www.techpowerup.com

https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-ag620-wh-argb/p/N82E16835856226
DeepCool AG620 WH ARGB Dual-Tower CPU Cooler $57.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ag620-air-cooler

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...al-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16083.shtml

Low profile RAM so it doesn't impede the cpu cooler. Check Amazon also for this RAM using PC Partpicker.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374332
G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 (White) $119.95

Rear exhaust fan for that case so it doesn't become a hotbox.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081VPP24C
ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm 4-Pin Case Fan (White) $9.19

Thanks! DeepCool AG620 WH ARGB would look insteresting in this white case btw. Now i'm not certain which one to choose, this one or be quiet! 250W TDP Dark Rock Pro 4

 

[Why_Me]

Thanks! DeepCool AG620 WH ARGB would look insteresting in this white case btw. Now i'm not certain which one to choose, this one or be quiet! 250W TDP Dark Rock Pro 4

Both are good coolers but if you're going with a white case you might as well go with a white cpu cooler.

 

[Why_Me]

Non ARGB.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gvGbt6/deepcool-ak620-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-ak620-wh

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ak620-review