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earthling

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Hello guys, This is my very first post in here...I'm building a new system with a normal budget and i'd like to have your suggestions about the CPU, & Mobo
first of all i'm thinking of getting an intel 478 CPU, so i'm not sure whether to go for a 3.0E or 3.0C and in both cases i'm thinking of an asus P4C800-E (875P) Mobo.

Or getting an athlon64 3200+ (socket 754) but not so sure about the Mobo.
as for the pc usage it will be used in gaming, compiling, editting and the very normal stuff.
thanks a lot guys =)
 

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Before you buy anything you really need to scan these forums and read all about what you want to buy and aything else about the different parts. Don't be like me and believe that you feel this MB mfg is the best or that CPU is the best mfg and so on. You will be suprised and shocked at what you find and also you will learn tons of info that you just cant find anywhere else. It will make you rethink what you want to build and if you research it deep enough then you will end up buying things only once and be very happy with what you have. Trust me on this....research these forums, you will not regret it.

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TheRod

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From what you said...

as for the pc usage it will be used in gaming, compiling, editting and the very normal stuff.
You should definetly get an Athlon 64 based PC. AMD64 CPU are faster in gaming and compiling than Intel based system. The other good reason to get an Athlon 64 is because they are more future-proof. They already support 64bit instructions, so they are ready for Windows XP 64bit Edition.

I strongly recommend you getting the following setup :
- Athlon 64 3000+ Socket939
- MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
- 2x512Megs of DDR400 RAM (no need for super low latency modules)

NOTE : If you don't need all the bells and whistles of the Neo2 Platinum, you can get cheaper MB that are very good too, check THG, AnandTech or Xbit-Labs motherboard reviews to find the MOBO that will fit your need.

I don't know your budget, but this setup is fairly cheap, and easily upgradable up to Athlon FX-55, AMD will launch Athlon 4200+ and FX-57 in 2005. So, if you need more CPU power in the future you will have room to grow!

On the graphic card side, if you don't want to spend too much, the new GeForce 6600 AGP seems to be a very good choice (it supports SM3.0), the Radeon 9800 PRO is a bit slower and don't support SM3.0, but it can be bought anywhere at good price.

If you have more money, the Radeon X800 PRO and the GeForce 6800 GT are both good choices. It's hard to decide which one would be the best... Theorically, the GeForce 6000 series have a greater life span because they support SM3.0.

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Hmm ... well, okay. If you absolutely have to go Intel, then I'd personally suggest the Northwood C route instead of the Prescott. The Northwoods run cooler and perform better. You won't have much available in the way of future upgrades, but you won't need to upgrade it for a good while anyway. And a good i865PE motherboard would do you just as well as an 875P board but should cost a little less.

Otherwise, yeah, like TheRod said, get an AMD Athlon64 instead.

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Crashman

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P4C800-E Deluxe is a bad value for a halfassed board, I had one.

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earthling

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I might go for the Athlon 64 3000+ Socket939 but as for the board i think it only uses ECC ram, does anybody know if i can use normal DDR on MSI K8N?
 

TheRod

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As <b>endyen</b> mentioned the only AMD cpu that requires ECC ram are the Opteron and FX for Socket940.

So don't worry, conventionnal DDR ram will work on your MB. Before choosing which memory to buy, go to the MB manufacturer website and check for a the list of recommended memory for the mobo you plan to buy. But, usually brand-name DDR-RAM will work fine.

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I still like my Asus P4P800 Deluxe. But then I wanted a passive northbridge. That and the Asus IDE cables look cool. :O

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earthling

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alright, thanx endyen and TheRod, I think i`ll go for the AMD Athlon 64 3000 Or 3200+ with MSI K8N Neo2 Or may be the gigabyte K8NS Ultra. thanks a lot guys :)
 

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I think you are correct. You can pick those up cheap and take the difference that the more expensive boards cost and put that money into other parts. I now have a Soyo board(Seems to be a good board) and an IS7 with the 3.0E CPU's. I have just recently started to play with the IS7 board, but "SO FAR SO GOOD"!
 

earthling

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do you guys think there will be a great performance difference between the AMD Athlon64 3000+ and the 3200+ ? i think it's either to get a 3000+ or 3400+ coz the performance difference between the 3000+ and the 3200+ won't worth the $50 price difference
 

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OK, check that chart...

<A HREF="http://www.hardware.fr/articles/531/page7.html" target="_new">http://www.hardware.fr/articles/531/page7.html</A>

This chart is a global comparison between A64 CPU, it is helpful to compare performance between A64 CPU. Usually the lowest rated CPU gives the best price/performance ratio.

And you must almost ask yourself this question: "Do I need the extra power of this CPU for that price?".

In most situation, an Athlon 64 3000+ is more than sufficient, and don't forgat that you can upgrade later if you really need the EXTRA power! By the way, buy a Socket939 MB and CPU. Going Socket754 is not a good move, because S939 are now affordable and this platform is more future proof.

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TheRod

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K8N Neo2 by MSI, and the A64 3000+.
Good choice! :smile: Have fun with your new system build!

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earthling

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is there anybody got any clue how much does a K8N Neo2 platinum cost? i mean i've seen it online and it was for like $140 and when i tried getting it from germany, it was for 160Euro !
 

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