Opinions on expensive build?

[MrPGamingInc]

So, I'm building a very expensive computer and would like some opinions on it. I would be mainly use it for gaming, and yes, I know it's a lot to spend on a computer, the list does include peripherals, and stuff to go with other stuff in the list (the custom items). Keep in mind, that I have posted about the same question on this forum, and got back some pretty useless responses telling me either to: dumb down my build some way, or to change some parts which was fairly useful, but not implemented due to the fact it would basically throw off the entire point of my build, and others who found it a fun build (this happened rarely). What im basically asking is.... Do you have any opinions/suggestions/warnings?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Firestarter113/saved/zrHnTW

 

[Outlander_04]

Did you have an actual question?

 

[MrPGamingInc]

Did you have an actual question?

Sorry, forgot to add that... Should be fixed

 

[vmem]

Keep in mind, that I have posted about the same question on this forum, and got back some pretty useless responses telling me either to: dumb down my build some way, or to change some parts which was fairly useful, but not implemented due to the fact it would basically throw off the entire point of my build, and others who found it a fun build (this happened rarely).

Um, so what kind of opinions are you looking for? nice build, glad you have money for it, I'm UBER jealous? (actually not, I love my own build)

I completely get what you're trying to do, but basically maxing out the budget on the best components (save the CPU, but I think you know what you're doing there) for a 1440p 120hz gaming build leaves very little the rest of us can offer.

all I can advise is that since you're already spending so much to maximize performance, ditch the arctic silver, and get yourself some Indigo Xtreme.
http://www.amazon.com/Indigo-Xtreme-115X-XS-Metallic-Interface/dp/B00GXT6EI4

 

[envy14tpe]

For gaming, ok. Why do you need the most expensive components to achieve what less expensive components can do? Also, what monitor or monitors are you shooting for?

The build seems great. expensive but if you want to do lots of audio/video work then its a good choice.

 

[MrPGamingInc]

Keep in mind, that I have posted about the same question on this forum, and got back some pretty useless responses telling me either to: dumb down my build some way, or to change some parts which was fairly useful, but not implemented due to the fact it would basically throw off the entire point of my build, and others who found it a fun build (this happened rarely).

Um, so what kind of opinions are you looking for? nice build, glad you have money for it, I'm UBER jealous? (actually not, I love my own build)

I completely get what you're trying to do, but basically maxing out the budget on the best components (save the CPU, but I think you know what you're doing there) for a 1440p 120hz gaming build leaves very little the rest of us can offer.

all I can advise is that since you're already spending so much to maximize performance, ditch the arctic silver, and get yourself some Indigo Xtreme.
http://www.amazon.com/Indigo-Xtreme-115X-XS-Metallic-Interface/dp/B00GXT6EI4

lol, thank you. I can see what you're saying and am glad that I have gotten what is the most possible for my budget. but since this is my first actual build, I feel very insecure on the parts, even though I shouldn't because most of the time spent on this has been research (as I assume all builds go). But thank you for the response, and I will switch those compounds out, but would you mind me asking why its better?

 

[vmem]

lol, thank you. I can see what you're saying and am glad that I have gotten what is the most possible for my budget. but since this is my first actual build, I feel very insecure on the parts, even though I shouldn't because most of the time spent on this has been research (as I assume all builds go). But thank you for the response, and I will switch those compounds out, but would you mind me asking why its better?

First of all, I apologize if I came off a bit harsh (or sarcastic) in the beginning, I was honestly deciding if you were trolling or not, but you seem like a reasonable guy.

as for the compound, don't make the decision so quickly. Arctic silver 5 has become one of the go-to compounds that people recommend, but not because it is the absolute best. it is a balance of great performance, along with ease of use (and low cost).

this website explains why indigo xtreme is better very well (basically it has even lower thermal resistance):
http://indigo-xtreme.com/page-ca.shtml
the downside is that it is expensive, and a bit tricky to apply

 

[mdocod]

Can't help but think that the price of that "rampage" motherboard would fetch a Supermicro X10DAC.

Granted for gaming it wouldn't really offer any advantages, but the novelty factor would certainly be much better 😉

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I think if I were building on that motherboard, I would make sure to use the 59XXK series i7's or E5 Xeon and the 1.3KW G2/P2 PSU so that the full upgrade path to 4-way SLI would actually be available, otherwise the board seems like sort of a half-utilized centerpiece to this build. If you want to stick with the 5820K (which is a great value option no doubt!) I would probably pick one of the many well made X99/C612 motherboards in the ~$300 range.

 

[MrPGamingInc]

lol, thank you. I can see what you're saying and am glad that I have gotten what is the most possible for my budget. but since this is my first actual build, I feel very insecure on the parts, even though I shouldn't because most of the time spent on this has been research (as I assume all builds go). But thank you for the response, and I will switch those compounds out, but would you mind me asking why its better?

First of all, I apologize if I came off a bit harsh (or sarcastic) in the beginning, I was honestly deciding if you were trolling or not, but you seem like a reasonable guy.

as for the compound, don't make the decision so quickly. Arctic silver 5 has become one of the go-to compounds that people recommend, but not because it is the absolute best. it is a balance of great performance, along with ease of use (and low cost).

this website explains why indigo xtreme is better very well (basically it has even lower thermal resistance):
http://indigo-xtreme.com/page-ca.shtml
the downside is that it is expensive, and a bit tricky to apply

Thats Awesome! I never even heard of a thermal compound like that! I'm smacking one in there mainly because I'm not running a watercooled PC, and mainly chose by rating thinking it was all the same. However, I am pleasantly surprised that this is a thing! Again, thank you a lot!

 

[MrPGamingInc]

For gaming, ok. Why do you need the most expensive components to achieve what less expensive components can do? Also, what monitor or monitors are you shooting for?

The build seems great. expensive but if you want to do lots of audio/video work then its a good choice.

I won't be doing too much of Audio/Video editing, but I will be doing some, nothing too professional though. Besides that, thank you for the compliment and I do get its expensive for its main use.

 

[MrPGamingInc]

Can't help but think that the price of that "rampage" motherboard would fetch a Supermicro X10DAC.

Granted for gaming it wouldn't really offer any advantages, but the novelty factor would certainly be much better 😉

---------

I think if I were building on that motherboard, I would make sure to use the 59XXK series i7's or E5 Xeon and the 1.3KW G2/P2 PSU so that the full upgrade path to 4-way SLI would actually be available, otherwise the board seems like sort of a half-utilized centerpiece to this build. If you want to stick with the 5820K (which is a great value option no doubt!) I would probably pick one of the many well made X99/C612 motherboards in the ~$300 range.

Thanks for the input! I'll look into that board. But I don't think I'll implement the change, for reasons you yourself pointed out. However, I still am interested in learning new stuff about different kinds of boards. So yeah! Thanks!

 

[MrPGamingInc]

Can't help but think that the price of that "rampage" motherboard would fetch a Supermicro X10DAC.

Granted for gaming it wouldn't really offer any advantages, but the novelty factor would certainly be much better 😉

---------

I think if I were building on that motherboard, I would make sure to use the 59XXK series i7's or E5 Xeon and the 1.3KW G2/P2 PSU so that the full upgrade path to 4-way SLI would actually be available, otherwise the board seems like sort of a half-utilized centerpiece to this build. If you want to stick with the 5820K (which is a great value option no doubt!) I would probably pick one of the many well made X99/C612 motherboards in the ~$300 range.

Thanks for the input! I'll look into that board. But I don't think I'll implement the change, for reasons you yourself pointed out. However, I still am interested in learning new stuff about different kinds of boards. So yeah! Thanks!

 

[somedude011]

If you are spending this much already why not get a Kraken X61? It will keep your cpu cooler.

 

[Outlander_04]

Ditch the SSD and use an M.2 drive , or a SATA express drive

 

[vmem]

If you are spending this much already why not get a Kraken X61? It will keep your cpu cooler.

he did his research. the motors on all AIO water coolers are loud. not unreasonably so, but with the type of set up he's going for, the loudest component will come down to the GPU, and the pump (with the GPU louder during load).

that reminds me though, OP, you should look into using an AIO cooler on your GPUs to further reduce noise (I think you can fit a pair inside your case):

http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138-kraken-g10-gpu-bracket.html

that will allow you to hook up any of NZXT's kraken coolers to your GPU core

 

[MrPGamingInc]

Ditch the SSD and use an M.2 drive , or a SATA express drive

Sorry for not responding in a while, I've been researching M.2 and SATA express drives. I get that their faster, but even though im spending this much on the build I really can't spend any more, and upgrading to these types of storage would surely put me over my budget. Thank you for the response though.

 

[MrPGamingInc]

If you are spending this much already why not get a Kraken X61? It will keep your cpu cooler.

he did his research. the motors on all AIO water coolers are loud. not unreasonably so, but with the type of set up he's going for, the loudest component will come down to the GPU, and the pump (with the GPU louder during load).

that reminds me though, OP, you should look into using an AIO cooler on your GPUs to further reduce noise (I think you can fit a pair inside your case):

http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138-kraken-g10-gpu-bracket.html

that will allow you to hook up any of NZXT's kraken coolers to your GPU core

I'll admit that it's not only about the noise, although it plays a great role in it. I also don't want to install a watercooling system because it's immensely harder compared to installing a fan CPU cooler, it's tons more expensive, and to me just seems like more stuff to go wrong. Now, the GPU bracket thing, I got a couple of questions: would the GPU bracket reduce the noise level of my GPU? And could I just leave it installed , and in the future when I feel comfortable doing a watercooled build, just replace the CPU Fan cooler with one of the Krakens watercoolers?

 

[vmem]

I'll admit that it's not only about the noise, although it plays a great role in it. I also don't want to install a watercooling system because it's immensely harder compared to installing a fan CPU cooler, it's tons more expensive, and to me just seems like more stuff to go wrong. Now, the GPU bracket thing, I got a couple of questions: would the GPU bracket reduce the noise level of my GPU? And could I just leave it installed , and in the future when I feel comfortable doing a watercooled build, just replace the CPU Fan cooler with one of the Krakens watercoolers?

First of all, at least according to personal experience moving from an all air cooler to fully custom water cooling, you're right, watercooling systems are tougher to install. However, these closed loop all-in-one systems are actually easier than a big CPU cooler (arguably). everything is already put together for you in a box, all you have to do is screw on the CPU block / pump part onto your CPU like an air cooler, and put the radiator on a fan slot and screw a fan onto it.

that said, the GPU bracket things will keep your GPUs SIGNIFICANTLY cooler compared to pure aircooling, allowing more headroom for overclocking (good for a gtx 980). and yes, you can just put the Kraken cooler thing on the CPU later if you feel like it

 

[bambiboom]

MrPGamingInc,

There are some very good choices there. If I might make a couple of suggestions:

1. In place of the i7-5820K (3.3 / 3.6GHz)($380) , consider an i7-5930K (3.5 / 3.7) ($550):

http://ark.intel.com/products/82931
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-5930KBX

These are both 6-core and the I7-5930K is a bit faster, but the main difference is having 40 PCIe lanes instead of 28, and if you're using multiple GPU's and other peripherals it's a good idea.

2. The ASUS Rampage V Extreme X99 board should be excellent- great choice.

3. With an X99 board with M.2, instead of the Samsung 840, use an M.2 drive- rated 10GB/s instead of 6GB/s for SATAIII.

I like your choice of case- looks fast standing still as they say. You may well have reasons for all the fans- extreme overclocking? but I would only suggest looking into your list of additional cooling fans as the Cooler Master case does already have 5 fans.

You might check how the motherboard of choice controls fans and especially if you're adding fans, you might like to add a fan controller:

4. NZXT SENTRY 2 5.25" Touch Screen Full System Fan Controller > $24.
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-SEN2

5. Consider a higher quality dedicated sound card:

Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-Express x1 Sound Card > $190
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SC-XONARST

> and there are others in the Xonar line.

6. Something I've really enjoyed is a Logitech sound system with subwoofer that has a remote volume control and headphone jack. I have a two-channel, 135W, wired remote version of this kind of system:

Logitech Z906 Wired 3.5mm/5.1 Channel Speaker System > $327.
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SP-Z906

Logitech has other system like this for less cost. I don't game at all but I think the sound is very important.


But, yes, you have the possibility of a very fast machine!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097

 

[Skylyne]

If this were my build, these are the things I would change:

- Change the SSD to the 850 Pro, as it has a better life expectancy. I just prefer it.
- Change the HDD to dual 2TB drives, as the larger drives don't have the best life expectancy. Since you don't seem to have a really restrictive budget, you could also consider doing a RAID 1 with a pair of the 3TB drives, to prevent losing all your data, due to their lesser life expectancy. I did notice the backup drive; but, from a personal perspective, I'd rather have a RAID configuration if I don't need to have everything mobile. I'd probably use a 2TB external to transfer everything (ie: high resolution movies).
- Your RCA to 3.5mm jack connector is something I would personally avoid, but I'm also a bit of an audio snob at times, and I try to stray from such things. Depending on what it is you plan on doing, and what kind of audio quality you want, you might want to consider using an external USB sound card (like the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2). I'd always recommend running 1/4" to RCA over 3.5mm to RCA. Just my take on it.
- The AKG 702 cans are a nice pick, but are mainly going to shine in low noise pollution environments; so just keep that in mind.
- I'm also not a fan of the speakers, but that really comes down to personal taste, and what you are looking for.

Going from SATA 3 SSD to M.2 really isn't necessary. If you get the 840/850 Pro, Samsung offers a nice feature in their Magician software called "RAPID," which will actually make the drive speeds fairly comparable to a lower cost M.2 drive. I should also note that the M.2 drives aren't too terribly expensive. You can get a decent 100-180GB M.2 in the $100-150 range. I was taking a look at those about a month ago, and they really aren't too terrible for price. The more expensive ones tend to be the PCI slot drives, the larger capacity drives, and the higher performers (like the Samsung XP941, which is ~$1/gb, compared to ~$.50/gb on the cheaper ones).

What you have already is definitely overkill in many ways, but it isn't necessarily a terrible thing. If you're okay with spending a little less on this build, and more on other hardware, you'd probably have a better overall experience. Since you're not really going to utilise this for production and editing purposes, you won't benefit too much from this build in comparison to if you downsized a few of your components.

 

[mdocod]

A good SSD on SATAIII will load/boot applications faster than a mediocre M.2 SSD anyway. Sequential peak transfer rate has very little effect on loading speed of applications, games, and operating systems. The bottleneck generally lands on latency rather than bandwidth in these workloads. Furthermore, there is very little practical difference between loading/booting speed between "premium" and "mediocre" SSDs in single client workloads anyway. If this is supposed to be a budget 2011-3 build, I would just use an MX100. I don't see the point of the enterprise class SSD be backed up by average trash consumer drives.

 

[MrPGamingInc]

MrPGamingInc,

There are some very good choices there. If I might make a couple of suggestions:

1. In place of the i7-5820K (3.3 / 3.6GHz)($380) , consider an i7-5930K (3.5 / 3.7) ($550):

http://ark.intel.com/products/82931
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=I7-5930KBX

These are both 6-core and the I7-5930K is a bit faster, but the main difference is having 40 PCIe lanes instead of 28, and if you're using multiple GPU's and other peripherals it's a good idea.

2. The ASUS Rampage V Extreme X99 board should be excellent- great choice.

3. With an X99 board with M.2, instead of the Samsung 840, use an M.2 drive- rated 10GB/s instead of 6GB/s for SATAIII.

I like your choice of case- looks fast standing still as they say. You may well have reasons for all the fans- extreme overclocking? but I would only suggest looking into your list of additional cooling fans as the Cooler Master case does already have 5 fans.

You might check how the motherboard of choice controls fans and especially if you're adding fans, you might like to add a fan controller:

4. NZXT SENTRY 2 5.25" Touch Screen Full System Fan Controller > $24.
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-SEN2

5. Consider a higher quality dedicated sound card:

Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-Express x1 Sound Card > $190
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SC-XONARST

> and there are others in the Xonar line.

6. Something I've really enjoyed is a Logitech sound system with subwoofer that has a remote volume control and headphone jack. I have a two-channel, 135W, wired remote version of this kind of system:

Logitech Z906 Wired 3.5mm/5.1 Channel Speaker System > $327.
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=SP-Z906

Logitech has other system like this for less cost. I don't game at all but I think the sound is very important.


But, yes, you have the possibility of a very fast machine!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system Rating = 3949, CPU= 9222 / 2D= 835 / 3D=3553]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Dell 24" and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit > [Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097

Thank you for your very detailed list, I enjoy getting these responses! Let me take a stab at that list-

1. Well to my luck, some prices changed and I was able to upgrade my CPU with no real expense, Yay!
2. Thank you for the compliments on the board!
3. Even though I would want to have M.2 or Sata Express memory, I can't because its around 100 dollars more for the same amount of memory. And case wise, how many fans do you think I would need? I would only be Overclocking to what the manufacturers suggest to do.
4. Depending on the amount you recommend me, I think I'll get one
5. Im only buying the amp/other stuff related to sound editing to get the max out of my headsets, and from what I have seen I'm pretty sure I don't need a sound card, but hey warn me if I'm wrong!
6. Nice speakers; but waaaaay out of my price range. I will only use my speakers for music and video listening. Probably never for gaming, but I would still like one that can handle it

I think I hit all the points there, let me know if I missed anything. The main thing is that its a big budget, but its not flexible at all. I absolutely cannot go past 5800. But thank you again for the awesome response!

 

[MrPGamingInc]

If this were my build, these are the things I would change:

- Change the SSD to the 850 Pro, as it has a better life expectancy. I just prefer it.
- Change the HDD to dual 2TB drives, as the larger drives don't have the best life expectancy. Since you don't seem to have a really restrictive budget, you could also consider doing a RAID 1 with a pair of the 3TB drives, to prevent losing all your data, due to their lesser life expectancy. I did notice the backup drive; but, from a personal perspective, I'd rather have a RAID configuration if I don't need to have everything mobile. I'd probably use a 2TB external to transfer everything (ie: high resolution movies).
- Your RCA to 3.5mm jack connector is something I would personally avoid, but I'm also a bit of an audio snob at times, and I try to stray from such things. Depending on what it is you plan on doing, and what kind of audio quality you want, you might want to consider using an external USB sound card (like the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2). I'd always recommend running 1/4" to RCA over 3.5mm to RCA. Just my take on it.
- The AKG 702 cans are a nice pick, but are mainly going to shine in low noise pollution environments; so just keep that in mind.
- I'm also not a fan of the speakers, but that really comes down to personal taste, and what you are looking for.

Going from SATA 3 SSD to M.2 really isn't necessary. If you get the 840/850 Pro, Samsung offers a nice feature in their Magician software called "RAPID," which will actually make the drive speeds fairly comparable to a lower cost M.2 drive. I should also note that the M.2 drives aren't too terribly expensive. You can get a decent 100-180GB M.2 in the $100-150 range. I was taking a look at those about a month ago, and they really aren't too terrible for price. The more expensive ones tend to be the PCI slot drives, the larger capacity drives, and the higher performers (like the Samsung XP941, which is ~$1/gb, compared to ~$.50/gb on the cheaper ones).

What you have already is definitely overkill in many ways, but it isn't necessarily a terrible thing. If you're okay with spending a little less on this build, and more on other hardware, you'd probably have a better overall experience. Since you're not really going to utilise this for production and editing purposes, you won't benefit too much from this build in comparison to if you downsized a few of your components.

Thank you for the response! let me take another stab at another list!

1. I can't as much as I would like to, it would mean that I would need to upgrade to a 500GB of memory which I can't afford to do

2. I don't want to breach the 3TB HDD memory because I would need to change the external hard drive which would get more expensive to a point where it seems dumb for me to spend that much on external hard drives. I would just like to mention something about my budget: although it is a high amount to spend on a computer, it still is a budget and in my case a very strict one at that so I really don't want to spend extra money on things that wouldn't improve the experience massively. Sorry if I was a little mean, but I just thought I should get that out of the way before anybody else gets the same idea. In regards to RAID, my personal opinion is that it's pretty useless because if one drive fails and I lose half of my data I would still need an external drive and to do the same process if I had lost all of my data. Also. If you have any recommendations on HDD's that I should get that would still keep me in that 3TB amount of memory, but be in the form of smaller drives, that would be great.

3. Great! I've had a real hard time with audio and I'm glad I have found someone that know more about it! I have a couple of questions for you, but let me get to the things you said first: I'll be using my headset set-up mostly for gaming, video watching, and music listening. I don't think I will ever do anything that can be considered professional sound or music editing. Sorry if I sound noobish but I didn't understand what you were trying to say mostly because I don't have too much knowledge on what sound stuff, here is where you lost me " I'd always recommend running 1/4" to RCA over 3.5mm to RCA. Just my take on it." So if you could explain to me a little more in detail, I will greatly appreciate it.

4. My new house won't be filled with too much noise pollution, but I would still like to know what is the best Headset for around the same price as the AKG's while also keeping in mind that its main use will be gaming, video and music listening.

5. Okay, so my decision on the speakers were mostly a complete guess since those were the one of the last things I had to research before having a complete list, so I was a tad burnt out and just basically guessed based on some minor (Very minor) research. So in your opinion, what should I replace them with keeping in mind I don't want to exceed $100, and its main use would be Music and Video Listening and that having a speaker that can also be used for gaming would be a nice bonus, but it doesn't have to have it.

6. I said they expensive, mostly because I was comparing their prices with how much memory each one had to offer. But I'm glad you pointed out that they won't make too much of a difference with the 840/850 series feature of RAPID because I really wouldn't be able to afford those types of memory.

7. I know it's overkill, but you got to admit, it's still awesome! In a totally serious note, if you have some free time, would you mind submitting a list that in your opinion would get me the same power gaming wise but give me the most entertainment.

Thank you for another great response! Love the way this thread is going!

 

[MrPGamingInc]

A good SSD on SATAIII will load/boot applications faster than a mediocre M.2 SSD anyway. Sequential peak transfer rate has very little effect on loading speed of applications, games, and operating systems. The bottleneck generally lands on latency rather than bandwidth in these workloads. Furthermore, there is very little practical difference between loading/booting speed between "premium" and "mediocre" SSDs in single client workloads anyway. If this is supposed to be a budget 2011-3 build, I would just use an MX100. I don't see the point of the enterprise class SSD be backed up by average trash consumer drives.

Thank you for elaborating on the speed differences in the memory, not sure what you mean about 2011-2013 build being that a lot of this stuff is very new, and could you also elaborate on the benefits of the MX100 over a samsung 840?

 

[MrPGamingInc]

I'll admit that it's not only about the noise, although it plays a great role in it. I also don't want to install a watercooling system because it's immensely harder compared to installing a fan CPU cooler, it's tons more expensive, and to me just seems like more stuff to go wrong. Now, the GPU bracket thing, I got a couple of questions: would the GPU bracket reduce the noise level of my GPU? And could I just leave it installed , and in the future when I feel comfortable doing a watercooled build, just replace the CPU Fan cooler with one of the Krakens watercoolers?

First of all, at least according to personal experience moving from an all air cooler to fully custom water cooling, you're right, watercooling systems are tougher to install. However, these closed loop all-in-one systems are actually easier than a big CPU cooler (arguably). everything is already put together for you in a box, all you have to do is screw on the CPU block / pump part onto your CPU like an air cooler, and put the radiator on a fan slot and screw a fan onto it.

that said, the GPU bracket things will keep your GPUs SIGNIFICANTLY cooler compared to pure aircooling, allowing more headroom for overclocking (good for a gtx 980). and yes, you can just put the Kraken cooler thing on the CPU later if you feel like it

Lol "Kraken cooler thing". Sorry, I didn't know how best to describe it

In regards to the watercooling, The main reason is that im a first time builder, and also that Im mooving to Brazil, in which computer parts (and technology in general) are very, very expensive. So if something was to go wrong, I couldnt' really repair it immediately. So I would be more comfortable having aircooling, until I come back and then I'll get watercooling (main reason why I asked you if it was worth it just leaving the GPU bracket there for that time)

Ill go ahead and add the bracket to the list