[SOLVED] Optus router

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Hello, i have an Huawei B525 with Optus or something on it. Is there any way to limit bandwitdh on users? Or maybe connect a router to it? I tried to connect a router, it was connected but it didn't work.
 
Solution
You should always be able to put another router in from of the huawei device.

You plug the wan port of the new router into the lan of the huawei. You then connect all your devices to your new router. The Huawei thinks you have just 1 pc hooked up via ethernet. You likely want to disable the wifi radios on the huawei so your devices only have the option to connect to your new router.

Your new router can run QoS and limit the traffic before it gets to the huawei. Of course this is not as simple as it sounds.

QoS is really just something that makes a overloaded connection more tolerable. It does not magically create more bandwidth. Someone is not going to get the bandwidth they really want. Sometimes it is easier...
You need a feature called QoS and even then it can be very tricky to get bandwidth limits to work especially if you do not have much bandwidth to begin with.

If I remember correctly optus is a cell phone company in Australia. Huawei makes all kinds of custom stuff for ISP so it is very hard to say what feature are on their routers.

So either your router has QoS or it does not.

You could put another router in front of your current router but again it is not trivial to configure QoS. TPlink and Asus routers have fairly advanced option in their factory firmware images. These let you set download and upload limits. It will takes lots of expermenting for most people to get a workable solution. The main problem is you have to set the rates much lower than you really want to avoid spikes. The usage is averaged over a fairly long time...ie many full seconds. The usage would appear the same for a applicaiton that used 10mbps for 10 seconds as one that used 100mbps for 1 second and then 0mbps for 9. Both are 10mbps average rates. This is just a example the real router is not that simplistic in how it gets the rates.
 

Foxis-

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Jan 17, 2020
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You need a feature called QoS and even then it can be very tricky to get bandwidth limits to work especially if you do not have much bandwidth to begin with.

If I remember correctly optus is a cell phone company in Australia. Huawei makes all kinds of custom stuff for ISP so it is very hard to say what feature are on their routers.

So either your router has QoS or it does not.

You could put another router in front of your current router but again it is not trivial to configure QoS. TPlink and Asus routers have fairly advanced option in their factory firmware images. These let you set download and upload limits. It will takes lots of expermenting for most people to get a workable solution. The main problem is you have to set the rates much lower than you really want to avoid spikes. The usage is averaged over a fairly long time...ie many full seconds. The usage would appear the same for a applicaiton that used 10mbps for 10 seconds as one that used 100mbps for 1 second and then 0mbps for 9. Both are 10mbps average rates. This is just a example the real router is not that simplistic in how it gets the rates.
Huawei is using Optus's software. So it's not Huawei who is having the features, the problem is with Optus not having QoS. And it's also not working with a router.
 
You should always be able to put another router in from of the huawei device.

You plug the wan port of the new router into the lan of the huawei. You then connect all your devices to your new router. The Huawei thinks you have just 1 pc hooked up via ethernet. You likely want to disable the wifi radios on the huawei so your devices only have the option to connect to your new router.

Your new router can run QoS and limit the traffic before it gets to the huawei. Of course this is not as simple as it sounds.

QoS is really just something that makes a overloaded connection more tolerable. It does not magically create more bandwidth. Someone is not going to get the bandwidth they really want. Sometimes it is easier to get a solution where people limit what they are doing that to try a technical solution.
 
Solution

Foxis-

Commendable
Jan 17, 2020
15
0
1,510
You should always be able to put another router in from of the huawei device.

You plug the wan port of the new router into the lan of the huawei. You then connect all your devices to your new router. The Huawei thinks you have just 1 pc hooked up via ethernet. You likely want to disable the wifi radios on the huawei so your devices only have the option to connect to your new router.

Your new router can run QoS and limit the traffic before it gets to the huawei. Of course this is not as simple as it sounds.

QoS is really just something that makes a overloaded connection more tolerable. It does not magically create more bandwidth. Someone is not going to get the bandwidth they really want. Sometimes it is easier to get a solution where people limit what they are doing that to try a technical solution.
Thanks, i only connected the router to huwei (as you said) but i didn't actually disable wifi and there were still some lan cables connected to huawei router. The internet speed is pretty decent. Its 30-40 Mbit down and 7-15 Mbit up.
 

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