[SOLVED] over clocking ryzen 5 2600 and xfx rx 5700

[jstar20385]

hi, i recently built my pc and i was wondering how should i do my over clocking? i’m using ryzen 5 2600 and xfx rx 5700 amd with b450 a pro max and i was wondering if i should over clock cpu via amd ryzen master of bios and what should the settings be to be stable if i test or generally and how should i over clock my gpu? please i need help

 

[jstar20385]

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[CountMike]

hi, i recently built my pc and i was wondering how should i do my over clocking? i’m using ryzen 5 2600 and xfx rx 5700 amd with b450 a pro max and i was wondering if i should over clock cpu via amd ryzen master of bios and what should the settings be to be stable if i test or generally and how should i over clock my gpu? please i need help

If you must OC Ryzen, do it from BIOS. As for GPUs, very little to gain from OC.
but you can do it thru Radeon settings or MSI Afterburner, just be careful it can do damage.

 

[drea.drechsler]

... or generally and how should i over clock my gpu? please i need help

You certainly can try to overclock your GPU, but there is not much to be gained by it with a 5700 since it's up-side range is extremely limited. The way to do it is use Radeon Settings...the Wattman tool in the Performance tab. Also use the MSI AfterBurner tool.

Check performance with 3dMark Time Spy.

The BETTER approach with either a 5700 or 5700XT is to undervolt while increasing power limit. When you check performance watch what's happening to boost clock; as the GPU hot spot gets hotter and hotter while the boost clock is bouncing around but averaging lower and lower. When you undervolt with maxed power limit the GPU hot spot temp will stay lower and the boost clock average higher while bouncing around less.

Less bouncing around of clock = steadier frame rates and reduced tendency to stuttering.

But the BEST way to overclock is update your board's BIOS to a 5700XT BIOS. If yours is a dual BIOS board it's very safe since even if things head south it's got the other BIOS to let you recover. But if you're not the type to do this sort of thing, or you don't want to risk it with a single BIOS board, it's easy to understand.

 

[jstar20385]

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You certainly can try to overclock your GPU, but there is not much to be gained by it with a 5700 since it's up-side range is extremely limited. The way to do it is use Radeon Settings...the Wattman tool in the Performance tab. Also use the MSI AfterBurner tool.

Check performance with 3dMark Time Spy.

The BETTER approach with either a 5700 or 5700XT is to undervolt while increasing power limit. When you check performance watch what's happening to boost clock; as the GPU hot spot gets hotter and hotter while the boost clock is bouncing around but averaging lower and lower. When you undervolt with maxed power limit the GPU hot spot temp will stay lower and the boost clock average higher while bouncing around less.

Less bouncing around of clock = steadier frame rates and reduced tendency to stuttering.

But the BEST way to overclock is update your board's BIOS to a 5700XT BIOS. If yours is a dual BIOS board it's very safe since even if things head south it's got the other BIOS to let you recover. But if you're not the type to do this sort of thing, or you don't want to risk it with a single BIOS board, it's easy to understand.

how can i make sure that my bios has 2 bios incase if i messed up the bios update for rx 5700 xt
also do i need to lower the voltage on all 3 clock or just the highest clock in amd wattman

 

[drea.drechsler]

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how can i make sure that my bios has 2 bios incase if i messed up the bios update for rx 5700 xt
also do i need to lower the voltage on all 3 clock or just the highest clock in amd wattman

Usually on the top edge of the board you'll find a slide switch to switch between the two BIOS choices. You're board's box will probably mention it prominently too.

I'd just lower voltage of the top, highest frequency, setting. Do it a little at a time, 10mV maybe, with some testing with Valley or Heaven at 1440p (enable super virtual resolution if you've a 1080p monitor) to see how it works.

When you find the lowest voltage it may start artifacting or even lock up, so be prepared for that. Then go back up 10mV and try again, then shift to 1mV drops. Or just be happy with that.

 

[jstar20385]

Usually on the top edge of the board you'll find a slide switch to switch between the two BIOS choices. You're board's box will probably mention it prominently too.

I'd just lower voltage of the top, highest frequency, setting. Do it a little at a time, 10mV maybe, with some testing with Valley or Heaven at 1440p (enable super virtual resolution if you've a 1080p monitor) to see how it works.

When you find the lowest voltage it may start artifacting or even lock up, so be prepared for that. Then go back up 10mV and try again, then shift to 1mV drops. Or just be happy with that.

ah okay but t to be honest since i’m new i’m not going to flash bios yet or something but i’m going to test undervolting the gpu and maybe that will give stable performance so far i have only up the mem clock to 1800 mhz as my best i could do but now i’m going to try undervolting the clock and see if it does something to my performance because so far when i play game my hot spot is always below 65c

 

[drea.drechsler]

ah okay but t to be honest since i’m new i’m not going to flash bios yet or something but i’m going to test undervolting the gpu and maybe that will give stable performance so far i have only up the mem clock to 1800 mhz as my best i could do but now i’m going to try undervolting the clock and see if it does something to my performance because so far when i play game my hot spot is always below 65c

In truth, under-volting will most probably have better results than just overclocking but a combination of both might be best. Also be sure to put the power limiter up to the max...I think that's +20% max for 5700's.

To test it out do a 3dmark timespy test at base, or no changes, and record results. Then both ways: overclocked and undervolted and compare results. Don't just look at clocks or FPS in games as that can be misleading.

BIOS flashing is a bit advanced. You do need to get the right BIOS since it has to be compatible not only with your GPU (any 5700XT BIOS will be) but also with the VRM and fan controller so that it sets up the power controller and controls fan speeds correctly. With my 5700 Red Dragon it was easy...the 5700XT red Dragon uses the same VRM scheme and other components.

 

[jstar20385]

i went to tech power up but i found two xfx rx 5700 so i don’t know which one to use lol you got discord? maybe u can help me out

 

[drea.drechsler]

i went to tech power up but i found two xfx rx 5700 so i don’t know which one to use lol you got discord? maybe u can help me out

I don't do discord.

You'd probably want an xfx rx5700XT bios to flash to your board, one that uses the exact same configuration and VRM control scheme.

Did you determine if you have a dual BIOS on yours? If you don't, do you have any idea how to recover from a bad BIOS flash? If the bios you flash it with doesn't work and you can't get a display you'll need a second gpu to install in the system (two gpu's) and then flash the known-good bios to your 5700. You'll need a flashing program that lets you steer the flash to the specific and unique PCI hardware ID of your 5700 so it doesn't attempt to flash the good GPU you're using. You usually do that from a command prompt.

It's possible to recover, but as you see it gets much more difficult. That's why it's much better with a dual bios. To recover from a bad flash with dual bios all you do is flip the switch to the unaltered BIOS and boot up. Once in windows flip the switch to the bad BIOS (it only uses it to boot up, not in Windows) and then execute the flash with the known-good BIOS.