overclock ryzen 5 2600 with stock cooler

[blade_storm]

hello guys i will overclock ryzen 5 2600 on asrock b450m pro4 until i get an aftermarket cooler. So, i don t want something crazy. ram will be 3000mhz and i want to try between 3.8ghz and 3.9ghz, what do you think with volt? should i push it up to 1.3 or below that?PSU isn t a problem. thanks you a lot!

 

[blade_storm]

You could overclock with it but I think it will run hotter than the MSI which might be more problematic. It's small odds but quoting Humbug

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/b450-msi-gigabyte-asus-asrock-boards-review-hardware-unboxed.18827089/

'I think the MSI is a 4 phase CPU VRM, as is the Aorus but there is a difference between them, the MSI board has 2 high side MosFets per inductor so 8 total, the Aorus has 8 Inductors but only 1 high side MosFet per pair with a doubler, so 4 high side MosFets, that's why the Aorus VRMs run at 120c where as the MSI VRM only runs at 85c under the same conditions, its the high side MosFets that take all the load and the MSI board has twice as many.'

2 high side mosfets per inductor on the MSI they are talking about the quality of the components on the board. It's small odds but could be all the difference between hassle and less hassle.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3742720/tdp-overclocked-amd-ryzen-2700x.html

They used a h115i water cooler and still got high temps.

Since you're looking for recommendations if none of the b450 boards meet your requirements I'd look towards one of the x470 boards.

Quote orbital walsh from the same convo:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/b450-msi-gigabyte-asus-asrock-boards-review-hardware-unboxed.18827089/

' If any one gave me a free MSI tomahawk, ASUS Strix, Aorus Pro or ASRock 4 i'd take it in a heat beat and happily slap in a 2600 or 2700 and OC to 4.1 - 1.4v happily and game on it all day long . If i was going to do Geomapping or work that involves avx calculations then damn straight it would be a flagship X470, even if its running on stock clocks.
Why people are expecting X470 class components on budget £100 boards i'll never know.

wonder when GN will get these boards and stick some thermal probes to them'

He would overclock if someone gave him a 'free board'. You could buy the Asrock board and overclock with it but overclocking is an endeavor undertaken entirely at your own risk on your own recognisance. If you know something that says it's all going to be fine, more than a benchmark setup that runs for 24 hours to create interesting statistics, then buy the asrock.

Don't underestimate how much heat the overclock will generate.

You could say that you won't overclock by much but then it was said, 3.8 isn't any more than the turbo speed anyway but the mid 3.9-4.0 will put out some watts and the 4.2 will substitute your central heating.

On a different note also I'm not sure if you've understood the need to buy compatible memory for your board. Don't buy any old memory check the compatibility list with the board manufacturer.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/Specification

This spec says it has 2x 5050 rgb led connectors on the full atx version. with a heat sink on the vrm.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-PRO-M2/Specification

This spec says it has one led strip connector on the mATX version. But no heat sink on the vrm.

QVL list lists all the ram that have tested, new ram aren t there. so no problem for fatalit and oc at the end of the day? just don t push the limits.

 

[DavidM012]

The fatality isn't my choice I like the review on the tomahawk full atx because those electronic guys at overclockers uk said 2 high side mosfets per inductor means the vrms run at 80c rather than 120c in the same conditions and the tomahawk uses less power so has a more efficient design overall. I know what memory to get for the tomahawk even though I couldn't open the file in the spec. section because it has a .000 extension and I don't know what app it opens with never mind there are plenty of recommendations if you search forums like this one for most boards I should think.

 

[Karadjgne]

QVL is Qualified Vendor List. Not qualified ram list. There's only a few actual ram OEMs, so testing is done to cover several OEMs in any particular speed, not just the brand on the heatsink. Patriot uses Samsung in its Viper3 line, as well as it's own ic's, as does Adata, G-Skill, and several others. So it's rather pointless to test most of the brands as it'll be nothing more than swapping out ram for the same ram with a different heatshield.

It's more important to note that any mobo will work with several different kits at any given speed, if it seems to only work with one kit, why? For the most part, the only real value of the QVL was with the 1st Gen Ryzen, who had issues with ram speeds over 3000MHz with every ram OEM except Samsung.

 

[DavidM012]

serious amount of research b4 overclocking check

compatible hardware check

good cooler check

wait for ryzen 2 check.

 

[blade_storm]

serious amount of research b4 overclocking check

compatible hardware check

good cooler check

wait for ryzen 2 check.

what s your opinion about MSI B450M Bazooka? i mean about overclock(in price it s between fatality and tomahawk)

 

[TJ Hooker]

aftermarket cooler isn t a problem (right now) but thanks for interesting, yeah i checked this msi mobo but hasn 't rgb support something i need. so why you said earlier that i can t overclock with this motherboards?

Well, you hadn't mentioned the need for RGB previously. Also, I never said anything about not being able to OC with any of the boards mentioned in this thread.

 

[DavidM012]

I like the full ATX Tomahawk.

quote review

'MSI B450 TOMAHAWK Socket AM4 ATX Motherboard.
Got this board after my Gigabyte B450M DS3H failed to run my Ryzen 5 2600 at normal stock speeds without the VRM getting so hot it downclocked the CPU ... with this board all my problems have gone the VRM cooling on this board is good and the BIOS is light years ahead of the Gigabyte bios.
The standard 4 pin RGB header means you can sync your fans and strips with the included software.
so far I've not found any downsides to buying this board over any other B450 board.'

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-B450-TOMAHAWK-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B07FQ9ZJD9/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1549822556&sr=1-1&keywords=b450+tomahawk