Overclocking E8500 + 945gcm-s2l

[omega1988]

i'm don't have expiriance with overclocking but to run E8500 on this motherboard i need to overclock , that's what it said on the motherboard website so i updated on the latest bios f8b and at start it asks me if i want to run it on 1333 . if i continue on 1333 it crash . if i run it on 1066 it is stable but runs only 2.53hz
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thats the bios and my some sort of satings

 

[Kevin2015]

What RAM do you have?

 

[omega1988]

DDR2 3gb 667hz

 

[Kevin2015]

Leave the O.C. 1333 cpu thing disabled.

Set CPU clock ratio to 9.
Fine clock ratio: 0
CPU host clock control: Enabled
CPU host clock: 333 mhz.
PCI express freq: 100 if you can, otherwise let us know what you can pick other than auto.
System memory multiplier 1 if you can, let us know what you can pick. Ideally you want to pick something here that will change the number under it to 667 or less.
DIMM overvoltage: 0
FSB overvoltage: Try @ 0. If the PC doesn't start, Try at 0.1V.
CPU voltage: 1.25V

If you manage to get your pc to boot with these settings, try rebooting and changing the first and only first settting to:


Set CPU clock ratio to 9.5, if you want to run the CPU at it's advertised speed

Hope that helps.

Edit: If you encounter stability problems (blue screen/black screen/unusual stuff) let us know in here. Your CPU is meant to run at this speed so I didn't really mention stability, however you never know.

You might want to run HWMonitor to see your temperatures and prime95 to stress test the CPU. There's alot of guides out there on how to do this and it's really not terribly difficult. Find out the max temp for your CPU if you decide to do this.

If you want to test your RAM use memtest86. Your RAM should also be running at it's rated frequency which is why I did not mention testing it. This can cause stability issues also, so if you get blue screen or other crashes do not immediately assume it's the CPU.

 

[omega1988]

looks like dosn't matter what i do the CPU clock ratio goes back to 6 .
and the system memory multiplier i got :auto , 1.50 , 2.0 , 2.5 . i set it on 2.0 it gives me 667hz if i set 1.5 it gives me 500hz

and CPU host clock: 333 mhz boots only if i set PCI express freq on auto , if set on 100 it crash

a little correction .if i set PCI express freq between 110-120 it works , if 121 it crash

 

[Kevin2015]

Can you still alter the other settings if you enable the O.C. FSB1333 Core 2 Cpu option? If you can, set the memory multiplier to 2.0 and leave everything else to defaults or auto.

If that fails, try the following:

System memory multiplier should be set to 2.0 then.

Do you have any other options other than auto and 100 for pci express?

If I'm not mistaken your PCIE will be running at 110mhz on auto with a FSB of 333hmz. I'm no expert on PCIE but I think that's still within the limits of what is deemed "safe". Auto might be ok, you might want to try contacting the motherboard manufacturer and see what they have to say as well.

Now the ratio clock, is it going back to 6 after a reboot? Try to explain in detail what happens if you set it to 9, any crashing? BSOD?Have you checked in CPU-z to see what multiplier you are running after setting it? Have you tried setting it to 9.5? IN the even that you don't know what CPU-z is, it's really easy to use.

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Basically just download/install/run.

http://imgur.com/f4oO9wL

The multiplier will be listed in the area I highlighted in this picture. If you have any power savings features you will want to put it under load as it can fluctuate to a lower multiplier to save power. You can go here to put your CPU under load, just click on 100% but don't leave it there for long just long enough so you can see the multiplier.

http://www.fossiltoys.com/cpuload.html

 

[omega1988]

in bios it gives tells me that CPU clock ratio min 6 - max 9 . if i set to 9 save settings and reboot it returns to be 6 . in CPU-z in the multiplier it says 6x (6-9.5)

in PCIE i got the option between 90-150 but it runs starts on 110-120 . in the right window it warning me that PCIE default is 100

even if windows starts not more then 5 minutes

 

[Kevin2015]

in bios it gives tells me that CPU clock ratio min 6 - max 9 . if i set to 9 save settings and reboot it returns to be 6 . in CPU-z in the multiplier it says 6x (6-9.5)

in PCIE i got the option between 90-150 but it runs starts on 110-120 . in the right window it warning me that PCIE default is 100

even if windows starts not more then 5 minutes

The mulitiplier is showing 6x to 9.5x in cpu-z? Like it changes from 6 to 9.5 (and maybe numbers in between? if so that's what you want.

What do you mean by not more than 5 minutes? Does the PC crash after 5 minutes?

PCIE should be fine on auto, I wouldn't worry about that anymore really unless it is giving you stability problems.

 

[omega1988]

in CPU-Z always shows 6x(6-9.5) no matter what i change in the bios . but in bios even if i change to 9x after save and reboot it returns to 6x as if i didn't change or saved settings .

yes it crash after 5 minutes

 

[Kevin2015]

in CPU-Z always shows 6x(6-9.5) no matter what i change in the bios . but in bios even if i change to 9x after save and reboot it returns to 6x as if i didn't change or saved settings .

yes it crash after 5 minutes

So it does show 9.5x multiplier in cpu-z if you put it under load? Or are you saying that if you set 6-9.5 in teh bios it shows as 6x in cpu-z?

Have you used that memory before without any crashing issues or other issues?

If it's crashing when you set the FSB (cpu host frequency) to 333 and the ram to 2.0 multiplier I would suggest contacting the Gigabyte. They are advertising that this product will work with the e8500 so I think it's on them to let you know how to do it since they're auto overclock settings don't work.

The only other thing I could think of doing is changing some voltages but you are likely to run into serious temperatures issues with that if you don't have good case cooling, a quality aftermarket CPU cooler and a quality PSU. You can really damage the chip and your motherboard if you put too much voltage though, so I would really suggest contacting gigabyte to see if they can tell you waht settings you need to run. If for whatever reason you decide to change voltages keep in mind that 1.3625V is the limit for this CPU. Again, I would really suggest contacting Gigabyte to see what they have to say before playing with voltages. Changing voltages can cause drastic temperature increases on your CPU and motherboard.

Also, try using HWmonitor to see your CPU temperatures.

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Simple to install like cpu-z.

Run Hwmonitor and do what you do normally for the 5 minutes it takes for windows to crash and let me know what temperature you see. There should be a CPU temperature and below that there should be 4 temperatures for each core. The 4 temps we need to know will be the core ones. If you see temperatures around 80 or more shut off your CPU, it shoulnd't be running higher than around 72 under full load.

Did you install the cpu cooler yourself? If so, did you apply thermal paste properly? (sometimes parts come with pre-applied paste, you should be ok if it that's the case).

 

[omega1988]

dosnt matter what i change in bios it just won't change and in CPU-z it all time shows this

yeah i installed it . it's ok i cleaned the old paste and putted the new cooler(arctic freezer 13) with new paste

in CPU-z it shows core speed 2000hz is it mean that the speed of the pc is 4000hz ?

how can i know why it crash ?

 

[Kevin2015]

dosnt matter what i change in bios it just won't change and in CPU-z it all time shows this

yeah i installed it . it's ok i cleaned the old paste and putted the new cooler(arctic freezer 13) with new paste

in CPU-z it shows core speed 2000hz is it mean that the speed of the pc is 4000hz ?

how can i know why it crash ?

The core speed in cpu-z is the speed of your CPU. Each core runs at that speed. It's also advertised this way, so if you were running the e8500 at it's advertised speed it would show around 3.16GHz as core speed.

To know why it crashed you can test the memory and cpu for errors if you want. It's most likely crashing because the system is not stable due to incorrect settings in the BIOS, which is why I recommend you contact Gigabyte since they should be able to tell you how to run it since they advertise that it can be done. You might have to increase certain voltages, Gigabyte should be able to tell you that.

It could be that you have bad memory though, did you use this memory before in another PC?

 

[omega1988]

yes . the memory is fine . also if i decrease bus speed it become more stable

should i upgrade to this motherboard http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5QC/specifications/

i think it will fully support the E8500 ?

 

[Kevin2015]

yes . the memory is fine . also if i decrease bus speed it become more stable

should i upgrade to this motherboard http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5QC/specifications/

i think it will fully support the E8500 ?

Yep it will support it.

 

[omega1988]

i think here if i take this motherboard i can also take a better cpu . what will you recommend ?

 

[Kevin2015]

i think here if i take this motherboard i can also take a better cpu . what will you recommend ?

I would recommend contacting Gigabyte to get the one you have to work

If you really don't want to contact Gigabyte I can suggest you some voltage settings that might make it work, you'll really have to watch your temperatures if you do that though.

I would recommend just using the e8500, it's a good CPU for that socket. Unless you think that you really need a quad core. Depends what you use your computer for really.

If your looking at buying a motherboard and CPU you should also consider that buying something more modern might be a better option. Depends I guess on how much you are willing to spend and what the prices are for the stuff you are looking at. You'd probably have to buy new ram as well though if you went with a more modern CPU, someting to keep in mind.

 

[omega1988]

to late i already bought that motherboard)) it second hand so it didn't cost me much . i also looked at ebay and it's possible to buy somthing like 30-40$ a stong quad processor . i tried contacting gigabyte few days ago but they didn't returned to me...
i don't really think of using it for gaming , maybe some strategy like World in Conflict . but not now . i study iphone/android development so i need it more for this . and for web-surfing . the main problem is that i don't have much money so i need to be in this junk but it's a little fun for me)))

 

[Kevin2015]

to late i already bought that motherboard)) it second hand so it didn't cost me much . i also looked at ebay and it's possible to buy somthing like 30-40$ a stong quad processor . i tried contacting gigabyte few days ago but they didn't returned to me...
i don't really think of using it for gaming , maybe some strategy like World in Conflict . but not now . i study iphone/android development so i need it more for this . and for web-surfing . the main problem is that i don't have much money so i need to be in this junk but it's a little fun for me)))

I would just save your money. There's not that many things out there that are multi-threaded that will heavily use all 4 cores on a quad core. I'd suggest getting a second opinion on this though, since I personally do not do android/iphone development.