Overclocking i5 4590

[Guest]

Hey all! I have a few questions about the CPU I am going to use for my gaming rig at Christmas.

It is an Intel Core i5 4590

My first question:
I did a small amount of searching about overclocking this processor, and people are saying I need a K chip for overclocking, for example the 4690K. But on Intel's website they say it has a turbo boost frequency of 3.7 GHz. How can I use the turbo boost frequency to overclock it to 3.7 GHz, also can you please explain a little about turbo boost frequency, because I'm not really sure what it is exactly.

My second question:
If I do overclock it to 3.7 GHz, will a Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 be good enough to keep it cool? Or should I go with something like the hyper 212 evo?

My final question:
I know that some good motherboards have overclocking abilities in the BIOS, the motherboard I'm going to get is the Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H.

Thanks to all who helps with and answers my questions.

 

[bootcher]

The 4590 has a max clock of 3.7 ghz, it will clock to this speed automatically when needed. To conserve energy it does not run at the highest clock all the time. Like any other 'non-K' CPU it has no overclocking capabilities. To answer your final question immediately, the motherboard will not enable you to overclock a non-K CPU. To overclock intel cpu's you need a 'K' cpu and a 'Z' series motherboard.

The i5 4590 ships with a stock cooler which works fine. You only need an aftermarket cooler for non-overclocking CPU's if you want them to run quiet, as the stock cooler can get a bit loud when it revs up.

 

[cin19]

Even the i5 4590 is the non-k cpu, you can oc to 3.7ghz at least manually, if you want oc it over 3.7, you have to change the BCLK from 100mhz to whatever more than 100mhz, like 101, 102, 103, etc. So e.g 100mhzx37=3.7ghz ( multiplier, but it is locked for the non-K cpu). If you want to oc over 3.7ghz, like the 103mhz x 37=3811mhz. But I don't know how high you can go.

If you want to try oc, you are better to buy hyper 212 evo or 212 plus, it is much better than the Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2. Check the link for more info. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/6/

*Forget other link: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000603/Intel-Haswell-Refresh-Reviewed-Core-i7-4790-i5-4690-i5-4590-and-i5-4460-Tested/1#axzz3kgnFoASP

 

[Guest]

The 4590 has a max clock of 3.7 ghz, it will clock to this speed automatically when needed. To conserve energy it does not run at the highest clock all the time. Like any other 'non-K' CPU it has no overclocking capabilities. To answer your final question immediately, the motherboard will not enable you to overclock a non-K CPU. To overclock intel cpu's you need a 'K' cpu and a 'Z' series motherboard.

The i5 4590 ships with a stock cooler which works fine. You only need an aftermarket cooler for non-overclocking CPU's if you want them to run quiet, as the stock cooler can get a bit loud when it revs up.

The motherboard is a z series motherboard tho isn't it? It says z87x.

 

[Guest]

Even the i5 4590 is the non-k cpu, you can oc to 3.7ghz at least manually, if you want oc it over 3.7, you have to change the BCLK from 100mhz to whatever more than 100mhz, like 101, 102, 103, etc. So e.g 100mhzx37=3.7ghz ( multiplier, but it is locked for the non-K cpu). If you want to oc over 3.7ghz, like the 103mhz x 37=3811mhz. But I don't know how high you can go.

If you want to try oc, you are better to buy hyper 212 evo or 212 plus, it is much better than the Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2. Check the link for more info. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-cpu-cooler-review/6/

*Forget other link: http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000603/Intel-Haswell-Refresh-Reviewed-Core-i7-4790-i5-4690-i5-4590-and-i5-4460-Tested/1#axzz3kgnFoASP

So it doesn't overclock itself to 3.7 itself?

 

[cin19]

Depends on workload the cpu will go to 3.7ghz with the turbo boost, and it won’t happen all of the time. If you manually set to the 3.7ghz, the cpu will run at 3.7ghz all of the time.

 

[Guest]

Depends on workload the cpu will go to 3.7ghz with the turbo boost, and it won’t happen all of the time. If you manually set to the 3.7ghz, the cpu will run at 3.7ghz all of the time.

Can I ask what BCLK is? Also if I get the hyper 212 evo or plus, will it run at a decent temp at 3.7?

 

[cin19]

One guy in our forum said " the i5 4590 can up to 4ghz " http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2349856/turbo-boosting-4590.html
And if you want to buy the hyper 212 cooler, make sure the cooler will fit into your case, because the cooler height is about 160mm. http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/

 

[cin19]

BCLK= base clock .
Yes, if you use the 212evo, but just make sure the cpu can fit into your case.

 

[Guest]

BCLK= base clock .
Yes, if you use the 212evo, but just make sure the cpu can fit into your case.

Thanks, sorry for all the added questions. But one more thing. Do I increase the base clock in the bios and will the z87x-ud3h allow me to do this. When you said 'change the BCLK from 100mhz to whatever more than 100mhz, like 101, 102, 103', what should I set it to, for keeping it at 3.7ghz?

 

[cin19]

Check the manual page 40 http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-z87x-ud3h_e.pdf , In the cpu/pcie base clock section, set to manual, then you should be able to change the bclk.
Depends on you, just try it and if you don't like it, then set to turbo boost.

 

[Guest]

Check the manual page 40 http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_ga-z87x-ud3h_e.pdf , In the cpu/pcie base clock section, set to manual, then you should be able to change the bclk.
Depends on you, just try it and if you don't like it, then set to turbo boost.

Ah right, so once its set to 3.7 it wont go past that with turbo boost? Or are you saying that turbo boost is an option instead of default/manual etc?

 

[cin19]

If you go with turbo boost, the cpu won't go past 3.7ghz. If you oc it, it will go pass 3.7ghz. Check the manual for those setting, because I don't read the manual carefully.

 

[Guest]

If you go with turbo boost, the cpu won't go past 3.7ghz. If you oc it, it will go pass 3.7ghz. Check the manual for those setting, because I don't read the manual carefully.

But I thought it couldn't go past 3.7 as thats the max turbo boost frequency, I mean like. If I have it at 3.7 all the time, and turbo boost kicks in. Will it stay at 3.7?

 

[cin19]

If you don't oc and with turbo boost, the cpu will never go pass 3.7ghz, even the turbo boost kicks in, the cpu will stay at 3.7ghz for short period of time only except you over overload the i5.
And I believe the cpu will stay stable, if you oc it a little bit like around 103mhz, but I don't know how far you can go.

 

[bootcher]

To 'set' the CPU at 3.7 ghz you basically disable the turbo clock and let the CPU run at its max setting when needed. Usually you can disable the turbo clock feature and let the CPU default to max clock (3.7 ghz) in the BIOS. Otherwise it will have a max clock of 3.3 ghz and 'sometimes automagically' go to 3.7 ghz when turbo clock is enabled.

With the limited option you do have for overclocking the base clock, keep in mind you will be overclocking other components too like the ram memory for example. A too high base clock can cause an unstable system. Also the rewards are a bit low, going from 3.7 ghz to 3.9 or maybe 4 will not make much difference if any at all, though you will have increased performance for the other components for example higher memory bandwidth.

In my opinion if you are interested in overclocking the CPU, get a regular 'K' CPU instead of a non-K, it costs about $30 more so might as well go for it.

 

[Victor_7]

To 'set' the CPU at 3.7 ghz you basically disable the turbo clock and let the CPU run at its max setting when needed. Usually you can disable the turbo clock feature and let the CPU default to max clock (3.7 ghz) in the BIOS. Otherwise it will have a max clock of 3.3 ghz and 'sometimes automagically' go to 3.7 ghz when turbo clock is enabled.

With the limited option you do have for overclocking the base clock, keep in mind you will be overclocking other components too like the ram memory for example. A too high base clock can cause an unstable system. Also the rewards are a bit low, going from 3.7 ghz to 3.9 or maybe 4 will not make much difference if any at all, though you will have increased performance for the other components for example higher memory bandwidth.

In my opinion if you are interested in overclocking the CPU, get a regular 'K' CPU instead of a non-K, it costs about $30 more so might as well go for it.

From my understanding of the night i have the exact same processor and it was bench marked at 3.7ghz but i can only overclock it at 3.5 at a constant speed.. yes there may be away to eventually change the speed but thinking of how much of a mess that may cause.. not worth the trouble to go through at all. so at the end of the day its a 3.3 maxing 3.7 that probably could reach 4.3 from what i saw on the benchmark 3.7 was only half of what i could get out of it.. which is unfortunate.. all in all just get an AMD in which always us to push our GPU's to the limit.