overclocking is very bad according to my dad

[kamilar]

hello, first time builder here.
I recently bought the ryzen 5 1600 and was hoping to OC it to 3.8 on the stock cooler.
I asked my dad for advice as he knows more than me and apparently overclocking is terribly bad and could destroy my cpu.
according to him, should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot post that.
also according to my dad, if I stress my overclock overnight with aida64 and it's fine, that doesn't mean that my cpu couldn't just die after 3 weeks while gaming.
everyone and their moms are OCing the 1600 close to the performance of the 1600x ...
am I crazy or is my dad very behind with technology? I thought the cpu shuts itself down if the temperature is too big to protect itself..

 

[mdd1963]

Why not compromise, and see if the build seems more than fast enough as is, before jumping into an "I must overclock"-mentality because abcgeewhizhardware.com says it is easy and takes only 2 keystrokes in the BIOS to accomplish. (It does not, and the forum is already semi-busy w/ 'my Ryzen build is unstable' posts, I'd recommend a 'slow/cautious' approach

Once establishing the system is intiially stable, you can review the ABC's of RYzen overlocking do's/don't do list, and then experiment to see if the couple extra hundred MHz is worth the increased temps to you.

(If all goes well,t he rig will shut itself down with high cpu temps, etc., so you are correct in that matter.)

 

[kamilar]

Why not compromise, and see if the build seems more than fast enough as is, before jumping into an "I must overclock"-mentality because abcgeewhizhardware.com says it is easy and takes only 2 keystrokes in the BIOS to accomplish. (It does not, and the forum is already semi-busy w/ 'my Ryzen build is unstable' posts, I'd recommend a 'slow/cautious' approach

Once establishing the system is intiially stable, you can review the ABC's of RYzen overlocking do's/don't do list, and then experiment to see if the couple extra hundred MHz is worth the increased temps to you.

(If all goes well,t he rig will shut itself down with high cpu temps, etc., so you are correct in that matter.)

thank you very much for responding, so basically my dad is talking out of turn?
even jay said that and I quote : " you have to try pretty hard to break something with cpu overclocking "

 

[mdd1963]

Most folks play at resolutions 1080P or above, where the GPU is often a bottleneck anyway, and often on a 60 Hz monitor; in those scenarios, having a cpu overclocked a few hundred extra MHz is often a waste of time...

Overclocking Ryzen takes some study, and, I'd read up on the matter thoroughly, and, research it on youtube before jumping up 200 Mhz and checking for stability......

If you are already getting above 80 frames/sec on a 60 Hz monitor.....what would be the point?

 

[junii421]

The CPU does shut down the computer if it gets very hot, before even considering OC is first see if its fast enough or if its barely running the game, if you need just a little bit more power, then if so go ahead overclock it but not too much and, yes you could destroy a cpu if you go crazyyyy, just keep it to a limit and do it slowly to put your multiplier up too high at a time

 

[kamilar]

The CPU does shut down the computer if it gets very hot, before even considering OC is first see if its fast enough or if its barely running the game, if you need just a little bit more power, then if so go ahead overclock it but not too much and, yes you could destroy a cpu if you go crazyyyy, just keep it to a limit and do it slowly to put your multiplier up too high at a time

i am rocking a 1080 so i am sure the performance will be great, however i want to play wow, which being such an old engine, uses the first core heavily. higher speed should improve wow by a bit.
is there anything i should fear? you guys make it sound as if ocing to 3.8 would be bad and not needed

 

[mdd1963]

the newer AMD processors at 3.3 GHz are as fast as older AMD processors at 4.5 GHz....

Try it before assuming it will be too slow ahead of time....

 

[theonerm2]

hello, first time builder here.
I recently bought the ryzen 5 1600 and was hoping to OC it to 3.8 on the stock cooler.
I asked my dad for advice as he knows more than me and apparently overclocking is terribly bad and could destroy my cpu.
according to him, should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot post that.
also according to my dad, if I stress my overclock overnight with aida64 and it's fine, that doesn't mean that my cpu couldn't just die after 3 weeks while gaming.
everyone and their moms are OCing the 1600 close to the performance of the 1600x ...
am I crazy or is my dad very behind with technology? I thought the cpu shuts itself down if the temperature is too big to protect itself..

"overclocking is terribly bad" That is false. Overclocking can be very good if you know what you're doing.
"could destroy my cpu." True
"should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot post that." False. If the CPU reaches a certain temperature it will shut down to prevent damage. Though constant high temperatures and high voltages can lead to a faster degradation of the CPU. It will still probably last for years because CPU's don't just outright die unless you give them a lethal amount of voltage.
"if I stress my overclock overnight with aida64 and it's fine, that doesn't mean that my cpu couldn't just die after 3 weeks while gaming." False. A CPU running at good voltages and normal temperatures would last probably decades even after doing an overnight stress test.

Hope I have answered your questions.

 

[kamilar]

hello, first time builder here.
I recently bought the ryzen 5 1600 and was hoping to OC it to 3.8 on the stock cooler.
I asked my dad for advice as he knows more than me and apparently overclocking is terribly bad and could destroy my cpu.
according to him, should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot post that.
also according to my dad, if I stress my overclock overnight with aida64 and it's fine, that doesn't mean that my cpu couldn't just die after 3 weeks while gaming.
everyone and their moms are OCing the 1600 close to the performance of the 1600x ...
am I crazy or is my dad very behind with technology? I thought the cpu shuts itself down if the temperature is too big to protect itself..

"overclocking is terribly bad" That is false. Overclocking can be very good if you know what you're doing.
"could destroy my cpu." True
"should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot post that." False. If the CPU reaches a certain temperature it will shut down to prevent damage. Though constant high temperatures and high voltages can lead to a faster degradation of the CPU. It will still probably last for years because CPU's don't just outright die unless you give them a lethal amount of voltage.
"if I stress my overclock overnight with aida64 and it's fine, that doesn't mean that my cpu couldn't just die after 3 weeks while gaming." False. A CPU running at good voltages and normal temperatures would last probably decades even after doing an overnight stress test.

Hope I have answered your questions.

thank you so much for sheding some light on this. like most of you suggested, I will try running at the out of the box speed and if my little brother won't be satisfied, I will look at OCing it before shipping the computer to him

 

[bignastyid]

"should the cpu ever go past a certain temperature, it would get damaged and would always run hot"

There are rare circumstances where this can occur. Usually only occurs when the cpu is ran without a heatsink or the heatsink is not installed properly. What happens is the lid warps and creates an air gap between the lid and die, causing very poor to no thermal conductivity which causes chronic heat problems with the cpu.

Imho i would not OC a Ryzenkor most cpus for that matter) with a stock cooler. Heat ages components.